From a comment by Dave Miller:
The Trump Admin has stated, from numerous leaders, including the Sec of DHS Noem, FBI Director Patel and CPB Leader Bovino that they believe it is illegal for an American citizen to exercise his or her 2nd Amendment rights in and around a protest.
An American citizen, they said, has no right to have a legally permitted gun in those areas."
I think it is fair to conclude that the Trump administration believes in 2nd Amendment rights for MAGA and only MAGA.
See below:
Trump Treasury Sec Bessent suggested Pretti should have brought a billboard with him to the "protest".
ReplyDeleteExcept, it was not a protest. Pretti was walking, saw a woman in distress, went to help her, as a good samaritan should, never brandished his weapon he was legally allowed to have, was disarmed by ICE, and was the shot. 10 times. By three ICE officers. 5 times after he was liely already dead on the ground.
Trumpublican Party and Its Regime: Hypocritical As*hats with Zero Shame.
ReplyDeleteLooking more and more like Nazis every day..
Dave, First off Pretti should not have been shot and certainly not killed. Can you tell me what you secret source is to say he saw a women in distress. I scoured the NYT, CNN and BBC and couldn't find any reference to that. I did see where he was involved in a scuffle some time back and that he was filming the incident where he got shot but no mention he was coming to the aid of a women in distress.
ReplyDeleteThe interpretation of the 2nd amendment is far to broad and depends on the person interpreting it. I get nervous when the see a gun being carried on someones hip. Most of the time it is some young male showing he is grown up and that makes me more nervous.
Guns should not be allowed in bars, liquor stores, schools and riots because there shouldn't be a need and the chance of violence is always present.
From PBS:
Delete"Videos taken by other civilians show the events leading up to Pretti's deadly encounter with federal agents. He's first seen filming the scene in the street. Whistles blare from nearby protesters. An agent shoves a demonstrator with a red backpack to the ground and is seen spraying a chemical agent in people's faces. Pretti, who uses one hand to protect himself from the spray and holds his phone in the other, moves to help a woman who was also affected.
More agents approach and pull Pretti back. There's a scuffle as Pretti appears to resist agents who pin him down and hit him repeatedly. At one point, at least one agent is heard saying Pretti has a gun. Soon after, an officer appears to remove a gun from a holster on Pretti. One agent fires a single shot before several more ring out."
Great Letter to the Editor in yesterday’s Washington Post:
ReplyDelete“In 2009, I was a Marine in Helmand province during the height of the shift to counterinsurgency operations. We were heavily armed and trained for violence, as Marines are expected to be.
But when we encountered local Afghans, we took off our helmets. We removed our sunglasses. We put a hand over our hearts, we looked the Afghans in the eye and said Salaam Alekum, or “peace be upon you.” If the situation allowed, we sat down. We drank tea. We talked. This wasn’t weakness or wokeness. It was strength, discipline and strategy.
We were still Marines. When it was time to fight, we did so decisively. But we also understood something essential: You cannot intimidate your way into lasting security. You cannot terrorize a population into cooperation. And you cannot claim moral authority if your posture communicates only contempt or fear.
That approach was a reflection of guidance from the strategic and operational levels. Our senior leaders understood that how we looked, spoke and behaved at the tactical level mattered enormously. Tone was policy. Posture was strategy.
I reflect on those lessons as I watch an anti-immigration agenda in the United States that has gone badly off course. Masked officers in military-style gear, conducting raids with theatrical dominance rather than measured authority. Communities treated as hostile terrain rather than neighborhoods. I find this not only disturbing but also strategically incoherent.
In Afghanistan, we understood that showing up as faceless, armored enforcers was a fast way to lose the population’s trust. We knew that intimidation buys compliance only temporarily, and resentment compounds faster than control.
If Marines could understand this in a war zone, we should be able to understand it in our own country."
Gus Biggio, Wooster, Ohio
Thank you, Possumlady. This letter should be shared far and wide!
DeleteWell Skud... you probably knew this was coming. Here's one of many, as Shaw has demonstrated, articles about Pretti helping someone.
ReplyDeleteThis one is from the NYT, posted on Jan 25th.
Per the NY Times, Pretti was trying help a woman.
YMMV, but between my link, and Shaw's, it looks like your scouring was not very effective.
That may explain something.
So, no, it's not secret knowledge at all.
Skud... I think you'd find a lots of agreement here from folks for your stated position of "The interpretation of the 2nd amendment is far to broad and depends on the person interpreting it. I get nervous when the see a gun being carried on someones hip. Most of the time it is some young male showing he is grown up and that makes me more nervous.
ReplyDeleteGuns should not be allowed in bars, liquor stores, schools and riots because there shouldn't be a need and the chance of violence is always present."
Too bad the great majority of people I think you vote for do not share your view.
Further examples of the "It's good for thee, but not for me" attitude of this Administration.
ReplyDeleteYesterday Sen Rand Paul asked Sec Rubio, if another country came to the US, took out our air defenses and in a four action, kidnapped the POTUS, would we consider it an act of war.
Rubio said the Admin could not conceive that the actions we took against Venezuela the night we kidnapped Maduro were acts of war.
And he refused to answer Sen Paul's pointed question.
Because like their view of the 2nd Amendment, only when progressives, Dems and liberals are in charge, is the Executive Branch restrained by the Constitution.
Man, Sen. Rand Paul was smoking the Admin yesterday. He asked aloud how the DHS, which lied directly to the American ppl, Paul said, could possibly lead an honest investigation of the Pretti shooting.
ReplyDeletePaul said ANYONE watching the video of the shooting CANNOT possibly conclude Pretti was attacking ICE agents, or acting as a "domestic terrorist" as the Administration has claimed.
I don't always agree with Sen Paul, but the last few days as he has watched overreach by the Trump Admin, he has been on point.
People committing crimes have 2nd Amendment protections and rights that cops don't have? Who knew?
ReplyDeleteWhat are you referring to? Who's committing crimes, I mean, besides the Trump administration?
DeleteDon't expect specificity from -FJ, we've never seen it yet in years of his innocuous comments.
DeleteAnd yes -FJ, certainly all citizens in the US have a set of unalienable rights to which they are endowed. And they don't stop when crime enters the equation.
At least as the SCOTUS has ruled.
Nobody has rights when confronted by ICE. THEY, not the citizen, have immunity.
DeleteOnly ICE thugs can shoot someone dead and walk away from the crime scene.
This is -FJ's authoritarian dream come true.
-FJ/JoeCon are on the wrong side of history. They must know this somewhere in their subconsciousness; they're not stupid.
ReplyDeleteIt took the wrongful deaths of two young Americans to wake the country up to the neo-fascism coming from the Trump administration.
But wake up it did. I'm seeing it daily.