I believe this post is relevant to remembering and memorializing September 11, 2001.
We all remember where we were when we heard the news. The rest of the day felt like a nightmarish blur as we watched the twin towers collapse and the clouds of dust settle on lower Manhattan.
It's a day I'll never forget.
George W. Bush was the president, and I remember that he actively spoke out against harassing, blaming, or attacking Muslim Americans. He repeatedly emphasized that the attacks were carried out by extremists and did not represent the Islamic religion.
That was the correct thing to do.
Unfortunately, 25 years later, there are still Americans who allow their fears, ignorance, and bigotry to blame ALL Muslims for the 19 fanatical terrorists who perpetrated the unspeakable carnage and destruction on that day.
Our friend and frequent contributor and commenter here at P.E., Dave Miller, recently found the comment below on the Geeez blog; and, it not only shocked him and me, but it made me think that we, as humans never, never learn what history teaches us again and again about blaming an entire religion, culture, or country for the crimes of the fanatical few.
I leave this for you to think about on this 25th anniversary of that terrible day. May we remember those who lost their lives and the first responders who risked theirs to save their fellow human beings. They represent the best in humanity.
The following comment, in my opinion, represents the worst:
Dave did something interesting with the comment. He loaded it into Google AI and asked how Michel Montaigne might've responded to it, based on his famous essay "Of Cannibals" Here's the response Dave got:
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If Michel de Montaigne were alive today and reading this post, his reaction would combine profound grief, intellectual disgust, and an immediate recognition of the exact human flaws he spent his life cataloging.
The quote you shared—borrowing the name of Samuel Huntington, the political scientist famous for the "Clash of Civilizations" theory—is a textbook example of the fanatical certainty and ethnocentric brutality that Montaigne witnessed firsthand during the French Wars of Religion.
Here is how Montaigne, drawing from his philosophy and specifically from Of Cannibals, would dissect and respond to this text:
1. On the Brutality of the "Civilized"
The author of the post frames Muslims as "swine" and casually advocates for the atomic annihilation of hundreds of millions of people during prayer. In Of Cannibals, Montaigne famously argued that Europeans point out the "barbarism" of others while completely ignoring their own monstrous behavior.
Montaigne would look at this post and say:
"We call them barbarians, but we ignore our own savagery. It is far more barbarous to vaporize entire nations of living, breathing families in a 'glorious burst' of radiation than it is to practice ritual cannibalism on a dead enemy in a forest."
To Montaigne, the author has lost their humanity. By advocating for genocide under the guise of "national security" (prevention), the writer proves Montaigne's core thesis: civilized society often invents the most sophisticated, high-tech cruelties.
2. The Danger of Absolute Certainty
Montaigne's lifelong motto was "What do I know?" (Que sais-je?). He believed that human cruelty almost always stems from people believing they possess absolute, unshakeable truth.
The author of the post speaks with total, terrifying conviction—implying that an entire religion is a singular monolith that must be wiped "from the planet." Montaigne would respond:
"How arrogant must a man be to play God? To believe his small, fearful human mind has the right to decide who lives and dies on this earth? True wisdom begins with doubting your own anger."
3. Missing the Mirror
In Of Cannibals, Montaigne used the indigenous people of Brazil as a mirror to show Europeans their own greed, hypocrisy, and inequality. He would see this post as a refusal to look in that mirror.
The author points to "Islamic attacks" to justify total destruction, but Montaigne would remind the writer of Europe's (and the West's) own bloody history:
"You condemn the violence of the other, yet your own solution is a violence so vast it would turn the world to ash. You have become the very monster you claim to fight."
4. The Violation of Hospitality and Curiosity
Montaigne was deeply fascinated by different cultures and religions. He traveled widely, sought out perspectives different from his own, and advocated for open-mindedness. The idea of "barring" an entire group of people based on their faith would strike him as a tragedy of human ignorance. He believed that when we close our borders and our minds to the world, we stop growing and instead fester in our own biases.
💡 The Final Verdict
Montaigne lived in a time when Catholics and Protestants were slaughtering each other in the streets of France, convinced they were doing God's work. He saw where that kind of rhetoric led: to massacres, ash, and the destruction of the soul.
He would view this "Sam Huntington" post not as a modern political opinion, but as the same old, tragic human sickness—fanaticism masking itself as virtue. He would urge the writer to put down their weapons, log off the computer, go outside, and play with their cat until they remembered what it means to be human.
Thank you for this post, Shaw, and Dave. A most appropriate one for this moment in time.
ReplyDeleteThe historical Buddha no doubt agrees.
The blogger "Sam Huntington" post highlights the depth of human potential for Humankinds Inhumanity To Humankind.
The unspeakable thought that blogger Sam advocates from his "Christian Belief" viewpoint is pure evil at evils basest level.
Once we fought and defeated abject evil, Nazism. Now; it seems we have this same evil flowing in our very midst.
We are at the 25 year anniversary of the attacks of 9/11. Here's a question from a conservative blogger who regularly bemoans the lack of Muslim leaders and even everyday followers of Islam to speak out about the violence and support the US...
ReplyDelete"If Muslims are SO hurt by reactions to 9/11, WHERE ARE THEY? HAS any of us seen a pro America rally BY MUSLIMS? EVER? Other than Dr Zuhdi Jasser [an acquaintance of the blogger], I have not heard ONE MUSLIM speak out for America, against the Muslim terrorists."
In Dearborn, Michigan, thousands of residents gathered after the attacks at the Arab American National Museum and local community centers holding American flags, waving unity banners, and raising money for the families of fallen New York first responders.
The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) and many local mosques organized nationwide blood drives supporting local hospitals and the Red Cross.
In Ann Arbor, Michigan, the Muslim Community Association co-sponsored public "Circles of Peace" where hundreds of citizens held hands surrounding public spaces to demonstrate unified national resilience.
Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat publicly and visibly donated blood at a hospital in Gaza explicitly earmarked for wounded American survivors to signal absolute condemnation of the violence.
In Iran, at great risk, thousands of young Iranian Muslims spontaneously poured into the streets of northern Tehran on September 18, 2001 in support of the US and in condemnation of the terrorist attacks.
But she's never heard of any of these events.
Following up in response to the frequent charge from conservatives like "Sam Huntington", here are numerous of Muslim leaders and groups from around the world who indeed spoke up, often at great personal peril to condemn the violence of 9/11.
ReplyDeleteMuhammad Ali... said "I am a Muslim. I am an American. If the culprits are Muslim, they have twisted the teachings of Islam. Whoever performed the terrorist attacks does not represent Islam. God is not behind assassins.
Mustafa Mashhur… The General Guide and top leader of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood at the time.
Dr. Muhammad Salim al-Awa… A highly influential Egyptian legal scholar, Islamic thinker, and intellectual who helped draft and authorize the theological language used in publicly condemning the attacks.
Tariq al-Bishri… A respected Egyptian judge, jurist, and former head of the Egyptian State Council joined in the condemnation of the attacks.
Qazi Hussain Ahmed… The Ameer (Top Leader) of Jamaat-e-Islami Pakistan, which was the largest and most influential mainstream Islamist political party in Pakistan.
Fadzil Noor (Fazil Nour)… The President of PAS (Parti Islam Se-Malaysia), Malaysia's primary Islamic political party.
Grand Mufti Abdul-Aziz Al-Sheikh (Saudi Arabia)... Declared 9/11 a "grave crime" and asserted that hijacking planes and terrorizing civilians are wholly un-Islamic acts strictly forbidden by Sharia law.
Convened by King Abdullah II of Jordan, 200 of the world’s leading Islamic scholars issued a declaration, The Amman Message, forbidding the practice of takfir (declaring other Muslims apostates), which extremists use to justify murdering civilians.
The American Muslim Political Coordination Committee (AMPCC), representing a coalition of major political groups, released a unified statement echoing that American Muslims utterly rejected and condemned the terrorism executed that day.
The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) immediately condemned the 9/11 events as "mindless violence”
The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) hours after the World Trade Center towers were hit on September 11 issued a statement calling the actions "vicious and cowardly acts of terrorism against innocent civilians”.
Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi (Chairman of the Sunna and Sira Council in Qatar) and Sheikh Taha Jabir al-Alwani (Chairman of the North America Fiqh Council), issued a joint fatwa condemning the violence and terrorism.
Dr. Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri’s issued a 600-Page Fatwa condemning the violence. Titled the Fatwa on Terrorism and Suicide Bombings, the 600 page paper systematically dismantled Al-Qaeda's ideology, stating without any "ifs or buts" that terrorists are "heroes of hellfire" rather than martyrs.
A simple google search would have shown anyone that many, many Muslims spoke out and condemned the 9/11 attacks. However, there are people who do not want to have their pet prejudices destroyed with facts.
DeletePS. "Sam Huntington" would like to nuke every Muslim on the planet. Apparently he'd approve of nuking certain American cities where hundreds of thousands of Muslim Americans live?
I don't think his bigotry thought this through.
It wasn't because they "hate us for our freedom".
ReplyDeletehttps://www.history.com/articles/al-qaeda
In 1996, bin Laden announced a fatwa against the United States, “Declaration of War Against the Americans Occupying the Land of the Two Holy Places,” with a second declaration of fatwa issued in 1998, citing protests against the United States, Israel and other allies.
“The U.S. today, as a result of the arrogant atmosphere, has set a double standard, calling whoever goes against its injustice a terrorist,” bin Laden said in a 1997 interview with CNN. “It wants to occupy our countries, steal our resources, impose on us agents to rule us, and then wants us to agree to all this.”
It was the inevitable clash between American imperialism partnered with belligerent Israeli Zionism and radical fundamentalist Muslim nationalism.
Religious extremism and avarice are perpetual breeders of hate, violence, and suffering.
What can we take from my two previous comments, in light of the question from the blogger I quoted and “Sam Huntington”?
ReplyDeleteI for one shake my head.
The evidence is there and easy to access. We can read the statements some people persist in saying do not exist. In some cases we can, through audio and YouTube files, hear and see the leaders I have cited publicly condemning the violence of 9/11.
We can access news reports from those days after the attacks where, in places like Dearborn and Ann Arbor, we see American Muslims standing and demonstrating in solidarity with their country.
And yet, even confronted with that evidence, some continue to refer to Muslims as “vermin,” or deliberately use terms like “Moslem” as a way of denigrating them.
At this point, we can't get angry.
But we should be sad that some in our country have decided to ignore facts, reality and evidence simply to continue to hate their fellow man.
A group of Muslims carried out a heinous act against the United States on 9/11. We should condemn what they did. But we should not condemn all Muslims because of it. And saying that Muslims never spoke out against the violence of that day is simply factually incorrect.
Muslims have extremists. Christians have extremists. Jews have extremists. Every great religious tradition has people who have used their faith to justify hatred, violence and even murder.
But we don't judge an entire faith—or millions of people who practice it—by its extremists. At least we shouldn't.
Christians certainly don't want Christianity judged by the worst things Christians have done in the name of God. We should extend that same grace and intellectual honesty to our Muslim neighbors.
Christians have, at various times in history, acted in what they believed was righteous obedience to God and killed others “in defense of the faith.”
Christian theology was used to justify slavery. It was invoked in the conquest, dispossession and forced assimilation of Indigenous peoples. The Doctrine of Discovery gave theological cover to the seizure of lands and the subjugation of Indigenous people around the world.
Christian extremists have bombed and burned medical clinics serving women and performing abortions, and some have even murdered doctors, claiming they were acting in obedience to God.
And this is before we even get to the Crusades.
Yet when someone points to those things and says, “This is Christianity. This is what Christians are,” Christians rightly object.
We say that's not fair. You cannot judge Jesus, the Gospel or millions of Christians by the worst things done by people claiming the Christian name.
Then we owe Muslims the same intellectual and moral fairness.
This isn't an argument that Christianity and Islam are the same. They aren't. It isn't an argument that Islamic extremism isn't real. It clearly is. And it certainly isn't an argument that we should somehow minimize the horror of what happened on September 11.
It's much simpler than that.
The original question was... Where were the Muslims? Where were the Muslims who spoke out against the terrorists and stood with America after 9/11?
They were there.
They spoke.
They condemned the attacks.
They mourned alongside their fellow Americans.
And the historical record proves it.
So perhaps the question now isn't whether the evidence exists.
The question is what we're willing to do with that evidence when it challenges something we have already decided to believe.
Because we have an obligation to tell the truth... even when the truth complicates the story we would prefer to believe.
And perhaps especially then.
Make it stop!
ReplyDeleteA blogger wrote about her experience in an American church in France on 9/11...
"An old woman was sitting to my right, sobbing……I put my arm around her. A beautiful young women on my left asked if I was American… I told her I was…she said 'Today, Madame, we are ALL Americans!' "
That is how it was. And it remained so as our military entered Afghanistan to deal with the masterminds and planners of the terrorist attacks of 9/11.
But then we attacked Iraq, a country that, according to the evidence, had no involvement in those attacks. Additionally, they had no useful WMD's according to information that ultimately came from the attacking US administration.
We believed they did. But they did not.
And then came the backlash against Muslims, the great majority of whom practice their religion peacefully, just like believers in other religions around the globe.
Soon we had the policies and belligerence of POTUS Trump, publicly berating longtime democratic US Allies while praising Putin, Xi and Kim Jong Un, dictators all.
Then we started removing sanctions from the "axis of evil" countries and putting essentially sanctions, in the form of tariffs, on our staunchest allies.
Countries who sent men and women to fight alongside us and die in defense of the US after 9/11.
England, Germany, Italy, Canada and more.
I doubt we will hear "we are all Americans" again anytime soon.
In 25 years, primarily through the actions of two US presidents, we have squandered decades of goodwill and a reservoir of respect and admiration from around the globe, from our allies and more.
Who knew then that the hell of 9/11 would still be with us today.
As with Iraq, we are once again acting.
ReplyDeleteDriven by the Zionist sponsored hate against Arabs and Persians.
Iran has never been a threat to the US. The very religion they practice and revere is against nuclear weapons. Contrary to the lies of the butcher netanyahu and his Zionist government, and, our ignorant and destructive potus.
Reading the entire Old Testament I grew to understand why Arabs and others at that time in history, and going forward, distrusted and we're and are suspicious of Jews.
The problems in the ME are the direct result of western interference and manipulation in the Middle East...
The sooner the west recognizes,acknowledges, and starts acting differently the quicker the problems will evaporate.
I for one am not holding my breath.
Nor am I.
Delete"Sam Huntington was a prominent Poly Sci professor, not to be confused with
ReplyDeletethe“pseudonymous” Sam who obfuscates the ship of fools. Nuff said