tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post4049969358798234209..comments2024-03-28T23:35:56.945-04:00Comments on Progressive Eruptions: HAPPY DARWIN DAY!Shaw Kenawehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08637273000409613497noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-57463716273600868332015-02-14T14:27:58.498-05:002015-02-14T14:27:58.498-05:00your resident troll suddenly went silent, shaw, af...your resident troll suddenly went silent, shaw, after you presented the facts that discredit his yammering about how great conservatives run their states.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-18207243801742182342015-02-14T09:32:29.484-05:002015-02-14T09:32:29.484-05:00Ignorance breeds more ignorance. Violence breeds m...Ignorance breeds more ignorance. Violence breeds more violence. Poverty breed more poverty. <br /><br />skudrunner, repeat at will until it makes sense.<br /><br />There are many paths to water. Key once there is to drink.<br /><br />Oy Vey...Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-32623016339830384792015-02-14T09:19:54.765-05:002015-02-14T09:19:54.765-05:00"We have most of the natural resources, peopl..."We have most of the natural resources, people who want to work and have right to work with few unions. Our biggest problems come from the elite colonists and federal gooberment."<br /><br />Most of the conservative southern states are in the bottom of the barrel where it comes to educating their citizens, insuring their citizens, and quality of life issues. But they lead the rest of the country in poverty, out-of-wedlock births, divorces, and deaths by firearms.<br /><br />"Elitist colonists and federal gooberment" have nothing to do with those issues. Local conservative government does. Just ask someone like <a href="http://www.salon.com/2015/02/12/rick_perrys_cold_blooded_health_care_claim_texans_like_being_uninsured/" rel="nofollow">ex-Gov. Perry of Texas who brags about his state having THE HIGHEST number of uninsured citizens. He claims it's what Texas wants.</a> You can't make that sort of stupidity up, can you. Also, take a look at the <a href="http://theadvocate.com/news/11576704-123/out-of-tricks-how-louisiana" rel="nofollow">$1.6 billion deficit Governor Jindal of Louisiana will be leaving for his successor.</a> Now you can understand a librul state doing that, but a RED conservative state? How did that happen?<br /><br />I suppose you can always blame Obama instead of your state governments for those great successes, eh?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/data-mine/2014/09/18/whats-wrong-with-the-south" rel="nofollow">HIGHEST POVERTY RATES IN SOUTH</a><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2013/06/19/red-states-rank-low-on-u-s-human-development-index/" rel="nofollow">FORBES MAGAZINE: 'Red States' Rank Low On U.S. Human Development Index</a><br /><br /><b>"When it comes to well-being — as measured by health, education and income — the southern ‘red states’ continue to be in worse shape compared to their Yankee rivals, according to a study called the Measure of America, released Wednesday by the Brooklyn based-Social Science Research Council."</b>Shaw Kenawehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637273000409613497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-92215641832862710472015-02-14T08:55:13.963-05:002015-02-14T08:55:13.963-05:00For those of us fortunate to be born and live in t...For those of us fortunate to be born and live in the South, Lincoln did us no favors.<br /><br />We have most of the natural resources, people who want to work and have right to work with few unions. Our biggest problems come from the elite colonists and federal gooberment.skudrunnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07610092853412481236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-32383325040078563902015-02-14T07:30:17.804-05:002015-02-14T07:30:17.804-05:00The same goes for Texas. Let them secede
Yes. Th...<i>The same goes for Texas. Let them secede</i><br /><br />Yes. Then they'll HAVE TO stop calling the Cowboys, "America's team". Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06124629994153584904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-38420269443843186972015-02-13T21:45:02.552-05:002015-02-13T21:45:02.552-05:00The same goes for Texas. Let them secede. We wil...The same goes for Texas. Let them secede. We will get along just fine without Texas. Texas will be the one hurting without the U.S. to prop them up.Jerry Critterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870618647449723147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-70651766846774012282015-02-13T17:56:21.345-05:002015-02-13T17:56:21.345-05:00Jerry takes the argument. Well said Jerry.
Point...Jerry takes the argument. Well said Jerry.<br /><br />Point of clarification. Had that happened the southern states would have been enclosed within their borders. They would no longer been a part of what was originally a voluntary union.<br /><br />The USA would simply have shrunk.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-63059674092357266482015-02-13T17:47:37.351-05:002015-02-13T17:47:37.351-05:00I agree with Sleeza. Evolution is real. And so a...I agree with Sleeza. Evolution is real. And so are monkeys with red asses. My people.Radical Redbutthttp://imgur.com/gallery/EA4DPXcnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-7402157117642082812015-02-13T16:55:33.909-05:002015-02-13T16:55:33.909-05:00I myself for example did not "believe" i...I myself for example did not "believe" in Evolution. Now I'm completely convinced that Evolution is real and that makes me proud.Sleezanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-52521965408637994902015-02-13T16:52:13.743-05:002015-02-13T16:52:13.743-05:00We function OK with two foreign countries on our b...We function OK with two foreign countries on our borders. I think it would have been more of a problem for them to function. Jerry Critterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870618647449723147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-75338504979693541472015-02-13T16:41:41.593-05:002015-02-13T16:41:41.593-05:00RN: "On a different slant; sometimes one has...RN: "On a different slant; sometimes one has to wonder if Lincoln would have done the union a favor by letting the south succeed."<br /><br />We would then have had a foreign country within our borders. Had the South seceded, they would not have been part of the United States of America. Could we have functioned with a foreign country within our borders?Shaw Kenawehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637273000409613497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-14274774459058821442015-02-13T16:40:22.185-05:002015-02-13T16:40:22.185-05:00skud, your comment had NOTHING to do with this pos...skud, your comment had NOTHING to do with this post, that's why it was deleted. You're acting trollish AGAIN!Shaw Kenawehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637273000409613497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-30634344351373773792015-02-13T14:21:55.323-05:002015-02-13T14:21:55.323-05:00Lincoln wasn't perfect, but he did what he bel...<i> Lincoln wasn't perfect, but he did what he believed was right, and he saved the Union.</i><br /><br />True. Notwithstanding this the philosophical arguments remain valid ones.<br /><br />On a different slant; sometimes one has to wonder if Lincoln would have done the union a favor by <a href="http://rationalnationusa.blogspot.com/2015/02/nuts-celebrating-assassination-of.html" rel="nofollow">letting the south succeed.</a>Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-73620540712123004902015-02-13T12:51:37.613-05:002015-02-13T12:51:37.613-05:00F.J.: "Well, naturally. They all had the sam...F.J.: "Well, naturally. They all had the same creator."<br /><br />Or, they all had the same biological principle, change over time, that made them what they are today.Shaw Kenawehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637273000409613497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-8650742265397232352015-02-13T12:48:38.280-05:002015-02-13T12:48:38.280-05:00Craig: "Christians who lean fundamentalist ...Craig: "Christians who lean fundamentalist are seeing their "right" to discriminate being dismantled and feel their religious freedom is under attack. Same sex marriage, contraception coverage in ACA (even though they won that battle) are Godless, Leftist plots to undermine Christianity."<br /><br /><br />Yes. And the same sort of thinking was behind fundamentalist opposition to slavery, interracial marriage, and now marriage equality. They lost on the first two, and it looks like the last one will be a loser for them as well. Sharia Law/Christian Law: they don't work in a secular country.<br />Shaw Kenawehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637273000409613497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-17149197720658052872015-02-13T12:46:01.631-05:002015-02-13T12:46:01.631-05:00J.C., creationism is only a story.J.C., creationism is only a story.Shaw Kenawehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637273000409613497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-17036022512548854732015-02-13T12:45:38.529-05:002015-02-13T12:45:38.529-05:00RN: "Lincoln in fact was the first big stat...RN: "Lincoln in fact was the first big statist mined president that believed in the supremacy of the federal government."<br /><br /><br />With a country as large and diverse as ours, there has to be a governing entity, otherwise the states would be all over the place with laws governing interstate commerce, segregation, marriage, and even health issues, to name a few. Do you honestly think states would have voluntarily given up slavery? States fought the overturning of Lynch Laws, anti-miscegenation laws, Jim Crowe laws, and now some states would fight against equal protection for people who wish to marry the person they love. <br /><br />RN: "Personally I have always viewed Lincoln in a less favorable light than many. Based on the above does that make me nuts IYO?"<br /><br />No, your opinion doesn't make you nuts. Your opinion is not as extreme as others I've read. I believe Lincoln did what he thought was best in order to keep the Union together. He famously stated: “I would save the Union. … If I could save the Union without freeing any slave, I would do it; and if could save it by freeing all the slaves, I would do it. … What I do about Slavery and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save this Union.”<br /><br />The easiest thing in the world is to second guess what someone does in times of extreme danger and conflict. The hardest thing is to have the courage to act. Lincoln wasn't perfect, but he did what he believed was right, and he saved the Union. What happened after his death was result of the failure of cowardly men, not what Lincoln did to preserve the United States.Shaw Kenawehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637273000409613497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-7553119066689584822015-02-13T11:56:46.144-05:002015-02-13T11:56:46.144-05:00"...that the wingnuts who claim evolution is ..."...that the wingnuts who claim evolution is "only a theory," "<br /><br />I say creationism is only a theory, and a very poorly postulated one at that, and unsupported by facts or observation.Jerry Critterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870618647449723147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-61389739730631722015-02-13T09:33:05.630-05:002015-02-13T09:33:05.630-05:00"... are the same people who believe Abraham ...<i>"... are the same people who believe Abraham Lincoln was a destructive monster and a traitor to the USA. Yes. It's nuts, but they believe it.</i><br /><br />In full this sentiment is borderline nuts. However, when considering only the actions taken by Abraham Lincoln with respect to the south's desire to succeed from the Union (joining was voluntary with no stipulation you couldn't withdraw at a later date) , the wording of the Declaration of Independence, and the prevalent belief the federal government had limited and delineated powers. Lincoln in fact was the first big statist mined president that believed in the supremacy of the federal government.<br /><br />Personally I have always viewed Lincoln in a less favorable light than many. Based on the above does that make me nuts IYO?Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-67919625278083930272015-02-13T07:05:28.370-05:002015-02-13T07:05:28.370-05:00J.C.: "Belief trumps facts every time."...J.C.: "Belief trumps facts every time."<br /><br />It's wingnuttia's motto.<br /><br />F.J., Lincoln and Darwin were born on the same day in the same year. I wanted to devote the 12th to Darwin, but I'm glad you included Lincoln in your comment.<br /><br />Be aware, though, that the wingnuts who claim evolution is "only a theory," are the same people who believe Abraham Lincoln was a destructive monster and a traitor to the USA. Yes. It's nuts, but they believe it.Shaw Kenawehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637273000409613497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-2265853602895164002015-02-13T07:03:18.581-05:002015-02-13T07:03:18.581-05:00I'm more distressed that the number of Republi...<i>I'm more distressed that the number of Republicans denying evolution has [increased]</i><br /><br />I'm just spit ballin' here. Christians who lean fundamentalist are seeing their "right" to discriminate being dismantled and feel their religious freedom is under attack. Same sex marriage, contraception coverage in ACA (even though they won that battle) are Godless, Leftist plots to undermine Christianity.<br /><br />Evolution and the AGW/CC "hoax", same thing. Leftist indoctrination to destroy religion and God's own free enterprise system. As we've seen, anything that even slightly challenges their worldview is PERSECUTION! For that percentage of Christians to whom the world is out to get, modernity and knowledge are the enemies. They can retreat to the comfy security of their mythology.<br /><br />It's either that or something else. <br /><br />I can't explain Dr. Ben. I think he is sincere. His religion trumps one of the best substantiated theories in science. Go figure. Jindhal and Walker are panderers.Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06124629994153584904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-74928830240743285832015-02-13T01:32:49.985-05:002015-02-13T01:32:49.985-05:00February 12, 1809 is the birth date of Abraham Lin...February 12, 1809 is the birth date of Abraham Lincoln.<br /><br />You know, it's funny, twenty-some odd years ago, as a fledgling Christian, I was getting a ride home from one of my many Christian mentors. Since we were together at a Baptist church, there was a lot of talk about creationism and the infallibility of God's word. I told him I didn't really think that I would be able to espouse a point of view as out-of-step with important biological and anthropological science as a strict, biblical description of creation, versus the widely accepted theory of evolution.<br /><br />I heard something brand new to me that evening in that little Toyota Tercel. He told me about the theory of intelligent design. That, maybe the evolution of humans and other species wasn't exactly as described in Genesis, but happened under the watchful eye of a loving God. That made a lot of sense to me and I felt a lot better throwing in with a bunch of nutty, fundamentalist Christians.<br /><br />Fast forward ten or twenty years, this very same, sane and lovely attempt to reconcile science and faith has been co-opted by the fringe creationists to mean almost the exact same thing as strict creationism. No meaningful difference, whatsoever.<br /><br />My favorite creationist from the 1980s was a really nice pastor emeritus. He cited arguments that he had heard from evolutionists regarding how different species of animals and creatures had similar body parts such as a spine, a heart, two eyes, a nose, et cetera. He said, "Well, naturally. They all had the same creator."<br /><br />A guy like that would be a breath of fresh air today.Flying Juniorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02098313953658606206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-72290589154423599112015-02-13T00:36:42.437-05:002015-02-13T00:36:42.437-05:00Belief trumps facts every time. In other words, d...Belief trumps facts every time. In other words, don't confuse me with facts. My mind is already made up. Jerry Critterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870618647449723147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-4353519857737778942015-02-12T19:49:05.498-05:002015-02-12T19:49:05.498-05:00THis is from the link you posted:
"February...THis is from the link you posted:<br /><br /> "February 12, Charles Darwin’s birthday, is often celebrated by secularists and, sadly, even some Christians."<br /><br />"...sadly, even some Christians?" <br /><br />That Ham dude is seriously stupid. But at least we can get a laugh out of his nincompoopery.<br /><br />He shares his rejection of evolution along with the majority of Muslim believers. They have a lot in common. LOL!Shaw Kenawehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637273000409613497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-19741517124254319432015-02-12T19:11:52.064-05:002015-02-12T19:11:52.064-05:00Speaking of attempting to decrease knowledge this ...Speaking of attempting to decrease knowledge <a href="http://blogs.answersingenesis.org/blogs/ken-ham/2015/02/12/darwin-was-wrong-day-a-hit/" rel="nofollow">this was expected</a>.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.com