tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post497675203743711993..comments2024-03-28T17:13:53.779-04:00Comments on Progressive Eruptions: GUNS, FAUX NOOZ, HITLER, STALIN, OH, AND HITLER!Shaw Kenawehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08637273000409613497noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-47399392532329778392013-01-25T17:30:05.648-05:002013-01-25T17:30:05.648-05:00"The NRA and others said asking patients abou...<i>"The NRA and others said asking patients about guns in the home was a violation of privacy."</i><br /><br />That is absolutely preposterous, from the standpoint of logic or law. It's one of the most outrageously absurd contentions I've ever heard. I'm surprised the court didn't throw it out with a summary judgment.<br /><br />First, a <i>question</i> can't invade privacy unless the answer is elicited through blackmail, torture or other duress. All a parent has to do is say "I don't think that's any of your business."<br /><br />Second, every medical professional and even nonprofessional medical workers are trained from the git-go about the importance of medical confidentiality. Telling a pediatrician you've got a couple of guns at home is tantamount to releasing the information into a vacuum. He or she will tell you to secure them so the kids don't get hold of them, and that's the end of it.<br /><br />Unbelievable!S.W. Andersonhttp://ohpblog.ohpinion.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-5994287683667656962013-01-25T15:39:47.190-05:002013-01-25T15:39:47.190-05:00SF,
We need to stop electing "baboons and jac...SF,<br />We need to stop electing "baboons and jackals".Jerry Critterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870618647449723147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-72842669090922769862013-01-25T15:33:52.541-05:002013-01-25T15:33:52.541-05:00Jindal and others are not the Republican leadershi...Jindal and others are not the Republican leadership. Listen to the actual Republican leaders like Bohner and McConnell, and you see what Shaw is talking about. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-39883431973555738962013-01-25T14:25:22.298-05:002013-01-25T14:25:22.298-05:00"The government is not the problem. The probl...<i>"The government is not the problem. The problem is the people WE ELECT to the government."</i><br /><br />I can agree with that. The US Constitution is a perfectly serviceable document. Now, if only the baboons and jackals we elect would follow it.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-80992821782714868522013-01-25T13:15:36.469-05:002013-01-25T13:15:36.469-05:00The government is not the problem. The problem is...The government is not the problem. The problem is the people WE ELECT to the government.Jerry Critterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870618647449723147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-81075518353929843442013-01-25T11:58:45.969-05:002013-01-25T11:58:45.969-05:00I have argued with those on my side who have hinte...I have argued with those on my side who have hinted at armed rebellion. My standard question is, who do you shoot first? A cop? A soldier?<br /><br />Do you attack the National Guard armory in your town?<br /><br />It's preposterous. Having said that, having an armed citizenry jealous of its liberties changes the equation. Instead of just using its overwhelming monopoly on violence, government officials are more circumspect regarding their actions. <br /><br />When government (or individuals) know there will be no pushback, overreach is the inevitable result.<br />Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-58928327388310655472013-01-25T11:50:30.815-05:002013-01-25T11:50:30.815-05:00Dmarks has libeled me more than once on your blog ...Dmarks has libeled me more than once on your blog and others as well.<br /><br />I understand that what I write about so disturbs him and his ilk that the only way for them to retaliate is to spread lies about me. <br /><br />Either that, or he's having trouble with his memory.<br /><br />I searched my blog and found where he misremembered who wrote something about Jindal. He attributed it to me, when I actually QUOTED Ann Althouse's text on Jindal.<br /><br />Ann Althouse mentioned Jindal's race, not I, and I ridiculed her for it.<br /><br />So dmarks must have read that 4 years ago, and in his narrow mind, attributed the words to me. (He did the same thing on a Herman Cain post where I quoted someone else saying something about Cain, and dmarks claimed those words as mine.)<br /><br />He's a dangerous wacko who sullies people's reputations because his memory is faulty--purposely or not.<br /><br />Shame on him!Shaw Kenawehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637273000409613497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-78140743488106357352013-01-25T11:49:18.709-05:002013-01-25T11:49:18.709-05:00We will hear more from Jindal. I suspect a lot mor...We will hear more from Jindal. I suspect a lot more. Cain, maybe not so much.<br /><br />We have seen, and will continue to see the results of the growing polarization in our politics. It is indeed unfortunate.<br /><br />It has gotten too personal and extreme exaggeration is the mode of operation.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-14494514320850677722013-01-25T11:15:03.551-05:002013-01-25T11:15:03.551-05:00Ah yes. I found Greenlick and his proposal quite c...Ah yes. I found Greenlick and his proposal quite curious as well. But, he does represent that curiously extreme statist tendency that is becoming more prevalent in the broadening extremes on both sides of the political spectrum.<br /><br />It's the middle Shaw, it's the middle. Curious indeed.<br /><br />Oh, don't hold your breath waiting for an apology from your friend dmarks. :-)Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-4296137009962946762013-01-25T09:30:41.562-05:002013-01-25T09:30:41.562-05:00SWA: "It bears mentioning the NRA lobbied fo...SWA: "It bears mentioning the NRA lobbied for, and of course got, a ban on federal funding for research and scholarship into gun violence, gun-related crimes and such. One of President Obama's executive orders, if I understand correctly, is to reinstate funding for obviously needed research and scholarship in this area."<br /><br />In addition to that piece harebrained legislation from the NRA, it also bears repeating that the GOP led Florida legislature (with the help of the NRA goons) was successful in passing a law that forbade pediatricians from asking parents if they owned firearms and how those parents keep them safely out of reach of their children.<br /><br />Those two outrageous lobbied-for pieces of legislation by the NRA need to be put out there in front of all Americans so that they can see what a radical and dangerously unhinged organization the NRA is. <br /><br />"Florida Gov. Rick Scott on June 1, 2011, approved the National Rifle Assn.-backed law. Under the legislation, physicians who asked patients about gun ownership without justification, entered unnecessary information about such ownership in medical records or discriminated against gun-owning patients faced possible sanctions by the state medical board.<br /><br /><br />The NRA and others said asking patients about guns in the home was a violation of privacy.<br /><br />Florida physicians, including representatives from the American Academy of Pediatrics and American Academy of Family Physicians, challenged the law in court. They argued that the statute harmed doctor-patient communication and went against professional guidelines on counseling parents about environmental risks to children."<br /><br />Shaw Kenawehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637273000409613497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-52729943299431935772013-01-25T09:22:06.544-05:002013-01-25T09:22:06.544-05:00First off, RN, I gave two examples: Drudge and Fr...First off, RN, I gave two examples: Drudge and Free Thinke's blog.<br /><br />Second, there are more, and anyone who surfs the 'net has seen them.<br /><br />The point of this post is not about those blogs and news organizations who don't compare President Obama to HitlerStalinNaziMao, etc.<br /><br />The point of this post is to bring attention to the pseudo-cable news station, Fox News, and those bloggers who do.<br /><br />I know that you find it necessary to monitor my posts and make sure they're "balanced" and that I don't use just one example to indict an entire group of people.<br /><br />BTW, I found your title post today quite curious:<br /><br /><b>Responsible Government or Intrusive Big Brother Nanny State Mentality on the March...</b><br />by: Les Carpenter<br />Rational Nation USA<br />Liberty -vs- Tyranny<br /><br /><b>If anyone doubts the presence of Nanny State Progressive Mentality in the nation's democrats one need look no further than Rep. Mitch Greenlick,</b> from Portland Oregon and his ridiculously absurd anti smoking legislation that he introduced in Oregon.<br /><br />Shaw Kenawehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637273000409613497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-33562306934802547042013-01-25T02:15:57.936-05:002013-01-25T02:15:57.936-05:00"What we need today more than anything-in thi...<i>"What we need today more than anything-in this particular debate as in other cultural debates-is not cultural warfare, nor cultural accommodation, but critical thought, more research, and new scholarship."</i><br /><br />It bears mentioning the NRA lobbied for, and of course got, a ban on federal funding for research and scholarship into gun violence, gun-related crimes and such. One of President Obama's executive orders, if I understand correctly, is to reinstate funding for obviously needed research and scholarship in this area.S.W. Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02388361660919375835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-942734049323784462013-01-25T02:06:26.689-05:002013-01-25T02:06:26.689-05:00"SF,
I think you are arguing the wrong issue....<i>"SF,<br />I think you are arguing the wrong issue. Obama is not trying to disarm the people. He is attempting to keep the guns out of the hands of people who have no business or ability to properly handle them."</i><br /><br />If Obama gets his way, gun enthusiasts will be spared the backlash sure to come if we continue on our current course, having more and more-deadly massacres thanks to murderers possessing ever more efficient combat weapons with which to do their killing. <br /><br />Ironically, the inevitable backlash, should it come to that, could easily bring about the kind of Draconian restrictions gun fanatics claim Obama is after now.<br /><br />S.W. Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02388361660919375835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-49252510501859313042013-01-25T01:56:30.950-05:002013-01-25T01:56:30.950-05:00That's a very good post, Shaw. Unfortunately, ...That's a very good post, Shaw. Unfortunately, it and others like it won't enlighten the fantasy-based crowd. They're into comfort food for what passes for their minds — "red meat" political blather, mostly.<br /><br /><i>"The idea that the Jews of Germany would have somehow beaten off the SS in pitched shootouts is pure unadulterated bs."</i><br /><br />Absolutely. So is the notion that a random bunch of gummint-hating, middle-aged wingnuts with hunting rifles and Glocks, or even with AR-15's and AK-47's, would win out over a similar-size contingent of FBI, U.S. Marshalls, ATF officers, etc.<br /><br />The Constitution prohibits the U.S. military from being used against U.S. citizens (although a breach of that was recently suggested). If this were to change, I'll tell you right now that one infantry platoon from today's Army would lay waste to a "force" of heavily armed, beer-bellied bubbas three times its size before the bubbas knew what hit them. <br /><br />Combat effectiveness isn't just a matter of who's got more guns, whose guns spray more bullets faster, or even who's a good marksman. Training, physical conditioning, discipline, positive attitude and teamwork are all vital components. So is knowing your enemy, working with your surroundings and having rehearsed the right moves until they can be executed almost automatically in scary and confusing situations. Today's infantry is far more skilled than the corps that fought in Vietnam, and they were no slouches.<br /><br />Some paranoid personalities of the fantasy-based crowd posture and prattle about using their guns to defend themselves against our government. The reality is that what they're talking about would be group suicide by cop kicked up several notches. Let me give them a warning: He who goes into battle side by side with untrained, reckless hotheads might go down fighting, but in an amazingly short time he <i>will</i> go down.S.W. Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02388361660919375835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-36850175724503872372013-01-24T23:18:35.565-05:002013-01-24T23:18:35.565-05:00Yikes Shaw, you're really on a role. How is on...Yikes Shaw, you're really on a role. How is one example of a conservative leaning blog constitute plural?<br /><br />Further, are there not conservatives and conservative blogs that do not represent the NRA, LaPierre, Nugent, and the other nut of a couple weeks ago.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-72791969308289459632013-01-24T21:25:19.667-05:002013-01-24T21:25:19.667-05:00Jerry:
I am not one of those who allege the presi...Jerry:<br /><br />I am not one of those who allege the president is trying to disarm his opponents.<br /><br />I am merely trying to establish what the historical facts are.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00534344221575644836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-67403026502493826912013-01-24T01:20:06.018-05:002013-01-24T01:20:06.018-05:00Mississippi's GOP Governor Says No American La...Mississippi's GOP Governor Says No American Lacks Health CareNews Flashnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-90968932241330570832013-01-24T00:38:50.004-05:002013-01-24T00:38:50.004-05:00Some of the pro gun advocates I've seen interv...Some of the pro gun advocates I've seen interviewed, are the kind of people who should be "checked" before we let them have a gun. <br />One guy on PM-CNN was screaming, eyes popping, drooling, raving, with hate clearly guiding his comments.<br />That's the kind of guy I do not want to have a gun. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-19011949862860691602013-01-23T21:32:14.179-05:002013-01-23T21:32:14.179-05:00Rand Paul was quite abusive for a first term Senat...Rand Paul was quite abusive for a first term Senator. Wonder if it is because he trails Hillary in polling in <a href="http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_Kentucky_1212.pdf" rel="nofollow">his own state</a> ?<br />BB-Idahohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01168862935045755393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-52838003354336402592013-01-23T19:12:40.031-05:002013-01-23T19:12:40.031-05:00Seen on a RIGHT WING blog. Those people really are...Seen on a RIGHT WING blog. Those people really are the enemy within:<br /><br />From your friend Free Thinke, Shaw: <br /><br /><b>"Comparisons to Hitler may seem facile -- even puerile -- and yet ...<br /><br />Let's face it our historic treatment of The African Negro is the SOLE reason we are beset with the political climate we suffer with today.<br /><br />If we hadn't benefited from the Slave Trade early on, Barack Obama would never have been even so much as a gleam in his sub-Saharan African-savage father's eye."</b> <br /><br />They really are racist pigs. Why do you have anything to do with them?Barack Hussein Obama is still the US presidenthttp://www.biography.com/people/barack-obama-12782369/photosnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-84212677709397062122013-01-23T17:53:16.336-05:002013-01-23T17:53:16.336-05:00SF,
I think you are arguing the wrong issue. Obam...SF,<br />I think you are arguing the wrong issue. Obama is not trying to disarm the people. He is attempting to keep the guns out of the hands of people who have no business or ability to properly handle them.Jerry Critterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870618647449723147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-65832581172986606632013-01-23T17:42:47.761-05:002013-01-23T17:42:47.761-05:00"Invoking Hilter and screaming hysterically a..."Invoking Hilter and screaming hysterically about Faux NOOZ won't get us there."<br /><br />I invoke FAUX NOOZ because they deserve to be ridiculed for promoting the foolish Hitler/Stalin/Nazi comparison. They deserve this ridicule because they fancy themselves a cable news corporation, when everyone knows that are anything BUT that.<br /><br />I don't know if you ever watch PBS's The News Hour, but try to catch it sometime to see how they handle reporting the news--it is NOTHING like the clown show on FAUX NOOZ.Shaw Kenawehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637273000409613497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-59850697594900939922013-01-23T15:57:15.074-05:002013-01-23T15:57:15.074-05:00In the age of Predator Drones the US government do...In the age of Predator Drones the US government does not fear the NRA's "rag tag band of freedom fighters". This bunch of 60 year old out of shape guys (RN, LOL) are no threat. This ain't Star Wars or the Terminator so that logic in and of itself is a joke. What they really fear is Obama's negro army marching up their driveway and forcing them to gay marry each other, right after the government gets it's hand all over their medicare and Social Security. (only the last line was the joke part).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-70756819322774620702013-01-23T15:52:30.954-05:002013-01-23T15:52:30.954-05:00Hitler and the Nazi regime encouraged the shooting...Hitler and the Nazi regime encouraged the shooting sports and even provided funding for civilian marksmanship programs, and made it easier to carry a gun (unless you were Jewish). Wiki it.<br /><br />TimAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-24504007718350241682013-01-23T15:27:22.418-05:002013-01-23T15:27:22.418-05:00I do not believe Obama is a Hitler or Stalin for t...I do not believe Obama is a Hitler or Stalin for the new millennium, so I'll push past that and press on to the heart of the matter.<br /><br />Dictators do not like opponents having guns. Stalin, Mao, Idi Amin, Pinochet, Castro... think up your own favorite potentate. They all saw an armed public as a threat. It is a historical fact.<br /><br />So, by all means, push back on those who would compare our president to a 20th century dictator, but do not distort historical truth in the process.<br /><br />I recommend this paper to everyone from Fordham Law Review: <br /><br /><a href="http://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4029&context=flr" rel="nofollow">On Gun Registration, the NRA, Adolf Hitler, and<br />Nazi Gun Laws: Exploding the Gun Culture Wars (A Call to Historians)</a><br /><br />The author concludes that Hitler did liberalize gun laws for "loyal Germans" (Because they weren't a threat! They were on his side!). But he denied them to Gypsies and other "undesirables" while forcibly disarming Jews of not just guns, but also "bludgeoning and stabbing devices."<br /><br />But what I most wish everyone would read is on page 678:<br /><br /><i>Our deepest cultural values are in the balance. What we need today more than anything-in this particular debate as in other cultural debates-is not cultural warfare, nor cultural accommodation, but critical thought, more research, and new scholarship.</i><br /><br />Invoking Hilter and screaming hysterically about Faux NOOZ won't get us there.<br /><br />Comparing President Obama to infamous dictators is over the top; but so is the blithe dismissal of historical fact.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.com