tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post8488449805891648965..comments2024-03-29T03:40:00.298-04:00Comments on Progressive Eruptions: FREE SPEECH, HATE SPEECH, AND THE COMPANY WE KEEP by (O)CT(O)PUS of The Swash ZoneShaw Kenawehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08637273000409613497noreply@blogger.comBlogger85125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-84572710323931375252014-10-14T09:10:06.621-04:002014-10-14T09:10:06.621-04:00Thanks, KP. I'm doing well. And I love knowi...Thanks, KP. I'm doing well. And I love knowing you appreciate Flan O'Brien. I just saw that you left an email. Sorry for not responding sooner. Will get back to you soon. Shaw Kenawehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637273000409613497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-9511683645137818312014-10-13T20:40:11.438-04:002014-10-13T20:40:11.438-04:00Hang in there Shaw. Best wishes. Hang in there Shaw. Best wishes. KPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13788103894599339102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-86703790882851778592014-10-13T20:38:59.266-04:002014-10-13T20:38:59.266-04:00Good to hear from you Dave. You won't see this...Good to hear from you Dave. You won't see this comment for awhile as you are actually working your butt off to help people in the mountains of Oaxaca.<br /><br /><br /><><><br /><br />To recap KP said: Dave, why do you and others ... aggravated with Lisa's editorial control of her blog continue to visit it? <br /><br /><br /><><><br /><br /><br />Dave said: Thanks KP... For me, I still believe in some intrinsic goodness within everyone and remain convinced that there must be a way for people to connect on that level, even if only for some dialogue.I just don't want to give that up.<br /><br /><><><br /><br />Great answer. I find myself doing the same. <br /><br />In my experience, at some point my personal health vis-à-vis the internet trumps hope for lost ideologues. <br /><br />Each of us has finite energy and what you are doing in the mountains of Oaxaca matters. <br /><br />I am pretty sure Lisa is going to be all right; albeit a bit worn out by blogging.<br /> <br /><br />Awhile back, my pal Shaw, referred me to some Irish literature by Flan O’Brien. <br /><br /><br />He wrote, “If you hit a rock hard enough and often enough with an iron hammer, some mollycules of the rock will go into the hammer and contrariwise likewise.”<br /><br /><br />This is probably true in most arenas outside of political blogging done by ideologues. <br /><br /><br />To be clear, mollycules (sp) are shared, but in my view they are human, not political. <br /><br />KPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13788103894599339102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-58481664639073009892014-10-06T21:10:18.307-04:002014-10-06T21:10:18.307-04:00Thank you all for your comments on this subject. ...Thank you all for your comments on this subject. I especially thank (O)CT(O)PUS for his time and efforts in addressing Lisa and her friends on this issue.<br /><br />We all have strong opinions and ideas about politics; but when people are attacked with sexual threats and pornography, that action leaves the realm of opinions and becomes criminal.<br /><br />Sadly, Lisa didn't have the ability to understand that what Radical Redneck and Rusty Shackleford (I believe they're one and the same) did was degrading to women and criminal. <br /><br />I'm sorry for her, but I have no such sentiment for Radical or Rusty. They knew exactly what they were doing when they attacked me with sexual threats and pornographic harassment.<br /><br />I have no knowledge of whether or not they have relationships with women. If they do, I'm sorry for those women in their lives. Both Radical Redneck and Rusty Shackleford have shown themselves to be without any respect for females.<br /><br />I have collected their threats and attacks and will send them along to the proper authorities for them to decide on what to do.Shaw Kenawehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637273000409613497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-61243517174363120382014-10-06T11:05:16.635-04:002014-10-06T11:05:16.635-04:00FreeThinke, regardless of his intellect, education...FreeThinke, regardless of his intellect, education, cultural refinement, and religiosity is pompous <i><b>hypocrite</b></i> of the highest order. <br /><br />His strident support of Lisa and her (his) bigoted porn blog has simply put a brighter spotlight on his already questionable character. <br />Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-64008180380739961322014-10-06T11:00:33.541-04:002014-10-06T11:00:33.541-04:00I'd go with what the Capt. said. You've sh...I'd go with what the Capt. said. You've shown a flashlight unto the silverfish and cockroaches that lurk in the rotten wood under the sink that is Lisa's blog. You've sent them scurrying, and they continue to mistake waving their antennae for wit. <br /><br />Just keep blocking them from your blog.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-79082826595725319632014-10-06T10:12:48.999-04:002014-10-06T10:12:48.999-04:00Shaw,
Feeling feisty this morning, I thought I...Shaw,<br /><br />Feeling feisty this morning, I thought I'd drop by the ISIS blog and try to convince them to get right with Jesus, but that wasn't a big enough challenge. . .<br /><br />But really I log ago gave up the notion that having the facts straight and a 100 point IQ advantage would win an argument with a shit slinging baboon such as hang out on these Liberal Bashing blogs. They don't even listen and the blonde with a dildo for a nose could be anyone.<br />As the now famous New Yorker cartoon said "on the internet, no one knows you're a dog?<br /><br />So anyway, as far as I'm concerned, relief is just a mouse click away. Don't give them a platform.Capt. Fogghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03093968390001879062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-67609529401203394252014-10-05T22:26:01.349-04:002014-10-05T22:26:01.349-04:00Reap what you sew?
What a dumbass!Reap what you sew?<br /><br />What a dumbass!Flying Juniorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02098313953658606206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-67422463473497975562014-10-05T21:12:43.195-04:002014-10-05T21:12:43.195-04:00I've noticed shaw that no conservative women h...I've noticed shaw that no conservative women have condemned Lisa's and Rednecks disgusting acts. Those who remain silent are part of the problem and by their silence approve of it.J.M.S.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-36866524608733712472014-10-05T18:14:19.166-04:002014-10-05T18:14:19.166-04:00First of all Anonymous @2:22, you obviously come t...First of all Anonymous @2:22, you obviously come to my blog and have read it for quite a while. Why didn't you have the courage to name yourself? <br /><br />I will answer your charges not for your edification but to set the record straight. Other people of your stripe have come here and accused me of the same things you have.<br /><br />No. 1 <br /><br />In all the years I've blogged, I freely admit to having a strong liberal bias and to stating my opinions with passion. I freely admit to going after politicians, pundits, commenters, and others who are in the news with rebuttals and with whom I have disagreements. That's what bloggers do -- conservative and liberal --they express their opinions all the time.<br /><br />Every political conservative blogger on the internet is not shy about calling people names or having what you label "nasty" opinions. Where do you think we've read the labels "libtard," "libturd," "Ovomit," Commie, Marxist, America-hater, etc.? That's the internet and its level of political discourse.<br /><br />No.2<br /><br />You, Anon, are dishonest in the extreme if you claim I've done what Lisa of "Who's Your Daddy" has done. She has allowed pornographic, SEXUAllY EXPLICIT and degrading attacks on me on her blog and even encouraged her chief attacker RADICAL REDNECK to do so. How? By not deleting the filth and even notifying him when a link to the porn didn't work. That sort of slime has never been on my blog, nor would anyone I know who has an ounce of decency in her allow that extreme sort of trolling and taunting by one of her commenters.<br /><br />So NO, I DID NOT DO THAT nor does my political disagreements with people in the news warrant that sort of disgusting and criminal retribution. LISA ALLOWED IT. <br /><br />No. 3<br /><br />My political disagreements and RADICAL REDNECK'S pornographic attacks on me are not a matter of "reaping what you sew[sic]" as you stated. <br /><br />If you believe women deserve to be sexually humiliated and degraded in public as "pay-back" for their political opinions, then there's plenty wrong with you, not with me. And that I should learn to "take it" as I "dish it," is just plain stupid, since I've never dished out sexual threats nor used sexually explicit language and photos to "get back" at people I disagree with.<br /><br />RADICAL REDNECK has sent unwanted pornography to my email here at P.E., and on a public blog, he suggested that I should be raped. RADICAL REDNECK is a deeply disturbed man who takes delight in sexually humiliating women. How some of you people on the right tolerate this is beyond my understanding. <br /><br />Thankfully, not all conservative/libertarian men think this is acceptable. I commend their courage and decency in the face of their confreres' cowardice.<br /><br />So, Anon, I think you look foolish coming here to blame me for the smut and harassment directed at me that Lisa allowed RADICAL REDNECK to put up on her blog.<br /><br />I don't know if you're a man or a woman; but if you're a man, you certainly had a mother, and maybe you have a wife, daughter, or sister. How would you react to this being done to them?<br /><br />Perhaps next time you should learn the facts before shooting off your mouth.<br /><br /> Shaw Kenawehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637273000409613497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-67893079043044562902014-10-05T14:22:20.418-04:002014-10-05T14:22:20.418-04:00For years you have been calling conservatives ever...For years you have been calling conservatives every name in the book. I guess you define nastiness by legal definitions instead of just being nice. You reap what you sew. You can dish it out but can't take it. Thin skinned people should not enter the political blog world. Blog about sewing, cooking, or some other hobby that won't earn you enemies. They achieved what they wanted, you stopped blogging. Either stop the crocodile tears and start blogging again, or leave permanently. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-51013108608746101022014-10-05T11:43:22.745-04:002014-10-05T11:43:22.745-04:00hi shaw, i've been going back and forth readin...hi shaw, i've been going back and forth reading the comments. if you've been sent pornography that is quite nasty but on the other hand it shows you've hit a nerve.<br /><br />am i to understand that you've taken a break from progressive eruptions due to the venom going back and forth?billy pilgrimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00128876723713271131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-71846544900405980432014-10-05T09:42:34.810-04:002014-10-05T09:42:34.810-04:00Truth be told, I could never understand people who...Truth be told, I could never understand people who complain about something and never stop.<br /><br />Case example, Lisa's porn blog "Who's Your Daddy. Unfortunately, a bunch of hypocrites there have been bitching and moaning about Lisa being caught promoting pornography and sexual violence against women, yet they still complain about Shaw and octopus exposing the filth, they're aangry and complain and blame Shaw for what Lisa does?.. What is it about these people that makes them so weird? <br /><br />Like someone said, shine some light on the filth Lisa has allowed on her blog and the people she allows to do it and they'll scatter like so many insects.<br /><br />Ben Sayin' The Most Interesting Things in the Worldhttp://mememaker.org/meme-21356/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-31678128535366321302014-10-04T21:37:56.825-04:002014-10-04T21:37:56.825-04:00Just when you thought that these right baggers hav...Just when you thought that these right baggers have sunk as low as they can get, they break their own record and come out with something like what they've posted on Lisa's blog, trying their lowest best to discredit Shaw and shut her down. .<br /><br />As is obvious even to those dullards there and elsewhere that there is not a decent person among them. <br /><br />Jus' Brayin'http://flickrhivemind.net/Tags/braying/Interestingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-38631343538239194282014-10-04T20:16:02.825-04:002014-10-04T20:16:02.825-04:00I agree Octo... just like someone who has committe...I agree Octo... just like someone who has committed a crime has to be held accountable...<br /><br />Doesn't mean I have to like it, or give up on them.<br /><br />My faith/religion/God never gives up on me, even at my worst.<br /><br />I just keep trying...Dave Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16777087329254991970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-71861865084158138262014-10-04T15:13:51.929-04:002014-10-04T15:13:51.929-04:00Dave Miller said: "Next week I leave for two ...Dave Miller said: "Next week I leave for two weeks of medical & development work in the mountains of Oaxaca, so no matter what happens, I'll miss it. "<br /><br />I think you are the best of us. making more a difference in the world than any of these comments/commenters.<br /><br />Fortunately, that includes all these agitating basement-dwellers.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-48141495972874309832014-10-04T14:25:41.373-04:002014-10-04T14:25:41.373-04:00Dave: “I still believe in some intrinsic goodness...<b>Dave</b>: “<i>I still believe in some intrinsic goodness within everyone …</i>”<br /><br />Dave,<br />Sometimes these abuses witnessed in Cyberspace cannot be explained away by mere lapses in judgment, lapses in mental health, lapses in ethics, or lapses in spirituality.<br /><br />Sometimes we are looking squarely in the face of <b>PURE MALICE</b>! The threats to Shaw meet this definition. <br /><br />There also must be accountability – ethical, legal, moral, and spiritual. I believe that time has come for a fearless moral inventory … one that is long overdue!(O)CT(O)PUShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07589336822561030860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-26307202995328524022014-10-04T09:12:22.736-04:002014-10-04T09:12:22.736-04:00Thanks KP... For me, I still believe in some intri...Thanks KP... For me, I still believe in some intrinsic goodness within everyone and remain convinced that there must be a way for people to connect on that level, even if only for some dialogue.<br /><br />I just don't want to give that up. But I am afraid that the time is coming when I will have to make a change.<br /><br />Sadly, as you pointed out, sometimes even here it gets too heated. Because of my schedule, one thing is certain, I just don't have net access everyday, so I get forced breaks. <br /><br />Next week I leave for two weeks of medical & development work in the mountains of Oaxaca, so no matter what happens, I'll miss it. <br /><br />And I'll be very fortunate... not for the lack of access, rather because I'll be doing what makes my heart sing.Dave Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16777087329254991970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-85132026198559631442014-10-04T08:55:19.772-04:002014-10-04T08:55:19.772-04:00When politics become more important than common se...When politics become more important than common sense there is trouble. We have arrived at that stage methinks.<br /><br />KP, a wise decision, maintaining a low level of drama in ones environment it healthy. Good to see you back.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-45930392865620292722014-10-04T05:52:26.323-04:002014-10-04T05:52:26.323-04:00Octo: You and spiders both...Octo: You and spiders both...dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-33786238068326309652014-10-03T22:23:46.886-04:002014-10-03T22:23:46.886-04:00Dmarks,
I forgot to mention: Cephalopods are real...Dmarks,<br />I forgot to mention: Cephalopods are really, really good at camouflage. Last night, I sneaked into Lisa's house camouflaged as a puppy, climbed atop her computer desk, and disguised myself as a tape dispenser.<br /><br />Sheesh ... the look on her face! But I got the goods on her. It would even make Radical Redneck blush.(O)CT(O)PUShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07589336822561030860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-38763293770970984892014-10-03T21:58:07.158-04:002014-10-03T21:58:07.158-04:00dmarks: “Octo: What happened to your "8 legs...<b>dmarks</b>: “<i>Octo: What happened to your "8 legs good, two legs baaaaad" motto?</i>”<br /><br />Truth be told, I could never understand the appeal of bilateral symmetry and the tricks played on the bicameral mind, which experiences the world only in terms of binary opposites - right versus left, day versus night, good versus evil, us versus them, and raw versus half-baked – where everything is experienced in stark black or white terms with no subtle shade of grey in between. These are the dialectics of language-enabled primates. Personally, I prefer the 360 degree view - which is actually 45 degrees multiplied by eight.(O)CT(O)PUShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07589336822561030860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-40021932632433573192014-10-03T21:15:49.431-04:002014-10-03T21:15:49.431-04:00<< You are indeed not responsible for what p...<< You are indeed not responsible for what people post. But you are responsible for what you allow to remain. Most of us delete those types of comments as soon as we see them. >><br /><br />Dave, why do you and others here aggravated with Lisa's editorial control of her blog continue to visit it? I have never visited it, so it is a legit question. <br /><br />On the other hand, I used to contribute here quite a bit. But it got a bit angry; so I took a break. <br /><br />KPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13788103894599339102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-39870652871051963782014-10-03T21:09:10.281-04:002014-10-03T21:09:10.281-04:00Dave Miller; you are part of the good stuff. Dave Miller; you are part of the good stuff. KPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13788103894599339102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-55016324622935520752014-10-03T21:03:47.078-04:002014-10-03T21:03:47.078-04:00ROCK ON, Shaw. ROCK ON, Shaw. KPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13788103894599339102noreply@blogger.com