tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post2401113043342032794..comments2024-03-29T06:56:06.476-04:00Comments on Progressive Eruptions: As we begin the needed debate on our gun culture, keep this in mind:Shaw Kenawehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08637273000409613497noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-58689207901111596272012-12-21T13:30:16.518-05:002012-12-21T13:30:16.518-05:00You, RN, and SF are going to solve this?
Thanks f...You, RN, and SF are going to solve this? <br />Thanks for the laugh.Republican Racismnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-82816849430080257312012-12-21T09:07:25.100-05:002012-12-21T09:07:25.100-05:00Actually, SF and RN would like to see something do...Actually, SF and RN would like to see something done. Just now, we're all talking about the issue and trying to find a way to solve it.Shaw Kenawehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637273000409613497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-32232342965445274622012-12-21T05:37:43.574-05:002012-12-21T05:37:43.574-05:00you will never get it past the fear mongers of gun...you will never get it past the fear mongers of guns, like SF and RN.Republican Racismnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-71948139762523505252012-12-20T20:19:57.171-05:002012-12-20T20:19:57.171-05:00Here are some Public Policy Polling results:
&quo...Here are some Public Policy Polling results:<br /><br />"Conservatives think hunting with assault rifles is unnecessary by a 70-22 margin, for example. But what's crazy is we cross-referenced this question with the 73 percent of respondents who had a favorable opinion of hunting, and among that crowd, 21 think assault weapons are necessary to hunt, while 73 percent don't.<br /><br />In other words, the vast majority of people who like hunting think hunting with assault rifles is unnecessary."Shaw Kenawehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637273000409613497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-43759804227846884322012-12-20T20:07:27.228-05:002012-12-20T20:07:27.228-05:00I'm with Dave on this issue.
The facts are th...I'm with Dave on this issue.<br /><br />The facts are this:<br /><br />We have more firearms in circulation in this country than in any western democracy, and we have more firearm deaths than any other nation on earth.<br /><br />Many well-meaning conservatives try to frame this as a "freedom" issue or a "rights" issue. But it is not that anymore. This is now a national health issue.<br /><br />A recent study predicts that more people will die of firearms by 2015 than die of motor vehicle accidents.<br /><br />That's a national disgrace.<br /><br />We have to get Americans to understand that there is NO NEED for unrestricted deadly weapons in this country. <br /><br />Newtown changed evreything.<br /><br /><br />Shaw Kenawehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637273000409613497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-71283017394603946322012-12-20T18:40:51.177-05:002012-12-20T18:40:51.177-05:00I am not sure what compromise would look like. If...I am not sure what compromise would look like. If I believe that any type of what we commonly call assault weapons, BB facts notwithstanding, should be banned, then where can I compromise?<br /><br />I am still waiting for anyone to tell me why they need a gun that can shoot a hundred rounds a minute or why anyone, hunter or otherwise [apart from law enforcement] needs a clip that holds 30 or more rounds.<br /><br />From my point of view, it is incumbent on the gun lobby to convince the American people why those levels of firepower should be accessible to a majority of the American people. What is the need?<br /><br />On registration, I believe every single person who buys a gun, because it is a deadly weapon, should have to pass a background check and that the weapon should be registered.<br /><br />I don't think you should be able to buy ammo unless you are a registered gun owner.<br /><br />I also do not see any reason why we cannot put a limit on the amount of guns that can be bought in a month. This alone would probably slow down gun runners.<br /><br />Look, there's a lot of stuff here. Mexico, victim of our assault style weapons is begging us to do something here.<br /><br />A majority of Americans want something done to limit gun ownership.<br /><br />Will any of this solve all of the issues? Not at all, but will it save some lives? How can any rational person argue in the negative?<br /><br />According to Tom Diaz of the Violence Policy Center, more Americans die every year from gun violence than have ever died from terrorism aimed at us.<br /><br />If we can summon the will to send thousands of our soldiers to die in the so called "War on Terror" and spend untold billions of dollars doing so, it would seem we could scrape together the $$$ needed to address the mental health issues and the will to solve the gun side of this problem.<br /><br />Silver and Skud... it os very frustrating to us libs... we have never seen a single move by many conservatives in our direction on this except from former President Ronald Reagan who supported the ban of the 90's.Dave Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16777087329254991970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-11020195258127285842012-12-20T18:27:38.815-05:002012-12-20T18:27:38.815-05:00No, BB, no disconnect.
Only madness in our laws b...No, BB, no disconnect.<br /><br />Only madness in our laws because we've allowed a business-based association, the NRA, to lobby our politicians and scare them into submission so that our gun laws are all but meaningless.Shaw Kenawehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637273000409613497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-31875389978377867772012-12-20T17:01:48.347-05:002012-12-20T17:01:48.347-05:00There are some bizarre peculiarities in the legale...There are some bizarre peculiarities in the legaleeze of<br />weaponry. For example, Connecticut<br />law states:<br />A semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following:<br />i. a folding or telescopic stock;<br />ii. a pistol grip;<br />iii. a bayonet mount;<br />iv. a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor;and<br />v. a grenade launcher.<br />The Bushmasters, even the mini-14s,<br />are cabable of a high volume of firepower and rate of fire/magazine<br />switching. It is NOT whether they<br />have a flash suppressor or pistol grip. The M-4 (weapon of Lanza choice) is routinely used by the military as an assault weapon; yet<br />even Connecticut considers it a<br />legitimate non-assault weapon. Is it just me, or is there a disconnect here?<br /><br /><br />BB-Idahohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01168862935045755393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-76801944147180427682012-12-20T15:29:40.243-05:002012-12-20T15:29:40.243-05:00The government currently limits the types of guns ...The government currently limits the types of guns Americans can own so that is not an issue.<br /><br />The debate seems to center around Assault rifles as the target gun because of it's abilities. The truth is an assault rifle has no more capabilities than a standard semi-automatic. It looks different but performs the same.<br /><br />Although they are fun to take to the range and do some target shooting I see no reason to own one in other than a 22cal. It is not a good platform for hunting and you could have the same experience with a 22 as a 223.<br /><br />Compromise is a two way street and I don't see the desire from either side on anything. It seems that the current administration is not serious about gun reform by their pick to head this up. They have taken a serious issue and made it totally political which means nothing meaningful will be accomplished.skudrunnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07610092853412481236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-27295473722812195702012-12-20T15:00:06.263-05:002012-12-20T15:00:06.263-05:00Dave, of course government can put limits on right...Dave, of course government can put limits on rights. We have 200 years of jurisprudence that says so. You can't own a fully automatic machine gun, for instance. <br /><br />Whoever posits a proposed solution must be able to convince us of its efficacy, and so far that has been lacking.<br /><br />In 1997 Britain imposed a severe gun ban in response to the Dunblane murders the year before. Firearm crimes continued increasing.<br /><br />Don't take my word for it, please check out the BBC article:<br /><br />http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6960431.stm<br /><br />More background:<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_Kingdom<br />Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-88327114956690885802012-12-20T13:37:37.486-05:002012-12-20T13:37:37.486-05:00I agree with Waldman's comments you excerpted....I agree with Waldman's comments you excerpted.<br /><br />Every citizen has an equal voice in any discussion that concerns the nation and our laws, and not all east coasters are "effete" gun haters. Connecticut has its own gun culture, and not just Republicans own guns.<br /><br />The more we study up on it and debate it the better. More facts are always better than less. Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1883838569462983439.post-88422012652669277812012-12-20T13:27:19.860-05:002012-12-20T13:27:19.860-05:00Shaw, here's my question for conservatives...
...Shaw, here's my question for conservatives...<br /><br />Does government have a right to limit the types of guns Americans can own?<br /><br />Before any action can be taken, or considered, this question must be broached.<br /><br />If gun proponents say no, then there is no basis for discussion, as no legislation can pass without their help.<br /><br />Sad, but true...Dave Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16777087329254991970noreply@blogger.com