From the Mother Ship today:
"Personal life:
[Letitia] James lives in the Clinton Hill neighborhood of Brooklyn and is a member of Emmanuel Baptist Church.
At a May 2022 rally, James stated that she had received an abortion early in her tenure as a member of the New York City Council. James said, “‘I was just elected and I was faced with the decision of whether to have an abortion or not, and I chose to have an abortion. I walked proudly into Planned Parenthood, and I make no apologies to anyone'”
CAPTAIN of the Mother Ship: "Do I care whether she had an abortion or not? Of course not…this post isn’t about morality, choices, etc. I don’t care, you probably don’t care, I suppose her church doesn’t care?… "
S.K.: Then why did you post this if you didn't care? Your words belie your actions. You care very much.
"But to speak so proudly of it? To talk about something so personal at a political RALLY?
WOW."
S.K.: She spoke of a legal medical procedure that millions of girls and women all over the world experience, and reminds us all of how that medical procedure was taken away from girls and women here in the supposedly greatest "free" country in the world by non-medical judges who were appointed, not elected!
"How do we have people like this in office?"
S.K.: A majority of people vote for them. That's how. It's called democracy. Apparently that disturbs you.
"People who, ON TAPE, say they’re going to GET TRUMP, as if her purpose of getting him was anything but personal hatred instead of actual crimes?"
S.K.: Actually, she got Trump on actual crimes, actually. Crimes that you dismiss, because you're a Trump cultist.
"This woman really disgusts me………. And I’m PROUD to say it."
NOTE: The person who wrote this supports, admires, and will vote for the presidency a man who has been adjudicated (by a court of law) a rapist, and has to pay the woman he raped $83 million for defaming her; and because he couldn't keep his mouth shut, he might be taken to court again by her for defamation. He's not very bright.
The person who wrote this supports a man who has cheated people out of their hard earned money his entire life; is going on trial this month for various criminal acts of fraud committed in NY, and is facing several more criminal indictments in other venues;
A man who called American military personnel who died in combat, "losers and suckers," according to General John Kelly, his former Chief-of-Staff, who heard him refer to them as such with his own ears;
A man who said his own vice president deserved the gallows that his thugs set up during the January 6 insurrection that he incited because Mike Pence would not commit a crime against the United States;
A man who bragged on audio tape about sexually assaulting women;
A man who denigrated a POW (John McCain) and mocked a disabled journalist;
A man who cheated on his three wives and committed adultery with two women, a porn star and Playboy bunny, while his third wife was taking care of his recently born fifth child.
There's more, but that's just a thumbnail of this thoroughly repulsive and malevolent man.
The Captain of the Mother Ship is NOT disgusted by him.
You figure it out, because I can't.
Perhaps she could educate herself by reading this letter to readers from the editor of the Cleveland Plain Dealer:
Our Trump reporting upsets some readers, but there aren’t two sides to facts: Letter from the Editor
"The north star here is truth. We tell the truth, even when it offends some of the people who pay us for information.
The truth is that Donald Trump undermined faith in our elections in his false bid to retain the presidency. He sparked an insurrection intended to overthrow our government and keep himself in power. No president in our history has done worse.
This is not subjective. We all saw it. Plenty of leaders today try to convince the masses we did not see what we saw, but our eyes don’t deceive. (If leaders began a years-long campaign today to convince us that the Baltimore bridge did not collapse Tuesday morning, would you ever believe them?) Trust your eyes.
Trump on Jan. 6 launched the most serious threat to our system of government since the Civil War. You know that. You saw it.
The facts involving Trump are crystal clear, and as news people, we cannot pretend otherwise, as unpopular as that might be with a segment of our readers. There aren’t two sides to facts.
People who say the earth is flat don’t get space on our platforms. If that offends them, so be it.
As for those who equate Trump and Joe Biden, that’s false equivalency. Biden has done nothing remotely close to the egregious, anti-American acts of Trump. We can debate the success and mindset of our current president, as we have about most presidents in our lifetimes, but Biden was never a threat to our democracy. Trump is.
He is unique among all American presidents for his efforts to keep power at any cost.
Personally, I find it hard to understand how Americans who take pride in our system of government support Trump. All those soldiers who died in World War II were fighting against the kind of regime Trump wants to create on our soil. How do they not see it?"
I had an interesting exchange with a Trumpist who framed his gullibility as, "Oh, and Trump is anything but a honest man. He is a poor excuse for a presidential candidate. The problem is that the one we currently have in office has proven to be even more dishonest, corrupt, and foolish."
ReplyDelete(No verifiable evidence cited, as per radical Right Doctrine of Overbearingly Dishonest Antagonistic Discourse. DOODAD")
Yes, it seems Trump lies about anything BUT elections. Hmm. A dishonest man who happens to be infallibly truthful about elections. They will NEVER see their glaring disconnect.
This is a perfect picture of believing the worst about the opponent of a truly vile person. Biden is the devil and the imperfect Trump was sent by God to save America.
And of course, we are "Marxists" for opposing Trump.
And that's what makes them a cult.
Perhaps, just perhaps, the Politician exposes a piece of dirt from her SECRET life in order to "gain the trust" of other "secret" holders who do NOT want THEIR shameful abortion secrets exposed? She's using the "I" and "C" in R-I-C-E (reward/ideology/coercion/ego) CIA motivation/manipulation theory for Intelligence Officers.
ReplyDeleteSo when I choose to share a story with you, or when you choose to share a story with me, or we share a story with our audience, we are inherently shaping the story to justify our actions so that we will be accepted. Because we want to be accepted into a community, so that we belong to something. That's the his side and her side, right? His side is telling his story because he wants to be accepted by the other his's and he's listening, right? Her, she's telling a story from her point of view so that she can be accepted by all the other she's hearing the story. And then, you're right, there's the cold hard truth.
Cold hard truth? Or just "the cult grand narrative"?
-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said... "Perhaps, just perhaps, the Politician exposes a piece of dirt from her SECRET life..."
ReplyDeleteYOU and the Captain of the Mother Ship and other Trumpers call it, "a piece of dirt."
Millions and millions of us see it as a legal medical procedure that girls and women decided to seek and have for their own personal reasons. It is YOUR moralistically skewed idea that this medical procedure is "dirt." James related the story to illustrate how that choice was taken away by a group of non-medical judges based on their fundamentalist beliefs in a particular religion.
It is none of your or the Mother Ship Captain's business why any girl or woman makes these decisions.
I have never read your or the Captain of the Mother Ship's outrage on what is the leading cause of death of living, breathing, babies and children: FIREARMS.
As long as you both believe it's the price we must pay for 2nd Amendment no-holds-barred freedom, your and the Captain's opinion on abortion is just plain hypocrisy. You don't give a wit about the leading cause of deaths of babies and children.
Your discomfort seems to be about girls and women having control over their bodies.
Dave Dubya The Trumpers are champions of projection. It is a fact that Trump is accused of committing felony crimes, so the Trumpers, unable to process that fact, label the Bidens as a crime family. It's easier than thinking.
ReplyDeleteIt's the schoolyard version of "I'm rubber; you're glue." They're children incapable of critical thinking.
Can you think of a crime that Trump hasn't committed. Oh, wait. He DID say he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and his cultists would still vote for him. So there's that possibility.
It is difficult to respect people who support Trump. Actually, it's impossible.
Les, I copied and pasted your comment from Moderation. I saw that it was italicized; and for some reason when you do that, all of the succeeding comments become italicized. I have no idea why that happens, it's a Blogger glitch.
ReplyDeleteHere's your comment without the italics:
Awaiting moderation
Les Carpenter commented on "The Mother Ship's Captain is NOT amused!"
6 mins ago
How do they not see it?.
That's the 64 trillion dollar question.
There are many reasons most likely. And, they likely vary.
One chooses to be informed or not. The majority who choose to be informed also accept what their eyes see and ears hear. They accept the truth of reality.
Then there's the MAGATS. Quivering whittle souls that fear they're losing the make believe America that doesn't exit and, in fact never did. They willingly allow their attachment to American folklore, their conditioning in life, and their ego's desires to shout over and drown out truth and reality for them. And likely, like the German people who accepted Hitler's lies and brutality, they too will some day rue their egregious error in judgement supporting trump, the insurrectionist and rapist. Most certainly if they get their today's most cherished wish.
Shaw, I saw Quinn yesterday in an interview.
ReplyDeleteSadly I know you'll be inundated with bad faith comments, devoid of any dispositive proof of what he wrote in his editorial.
I'm a fan of long time Las Vegas political writer and analyst Jon Ralston. I do not know whether he leans left or right and to me, it doesn't matter. I've been reading him for over 20 years. I read him because he's an analyst, accurate and rarely wrong on how Nevada will go politically.
Here's what he said about the latest McDaniel mess at NBC News including the how and when we should welcome the election deniers, of whom Quinn wrote, back into the daily folds of American society...
"No one -- including McDaniel -- who lied about 2020 and enabled Trump's attempted coup should be welcomed back into polite society, unless they sincerely and profusely apologize. Period. The damage has been too pervasive, too insidious. This should be a litmus test."
Ralston's point should be a codicil to Quinn's editorial.
And perhaps, we should use that standard here.
Welcome the real conservative voices. Welcome the small government, fiscally responsible types who support police, law and order. Welcome those who desire to secure our border ASAP and make sure all Americans have easy access without harassment to the polls. Welcome those who desire to work for and respect freedom of religion and the right to worship safely no matter their God, or no God at all.
Welcome those who understand that none of us get it right every time, but all of us can, and should recognize and admit when we've been wrong and failed. Welcome those who see that the "tired, poor and hungry" have always been and will continue to be the backbone of America if given the chance.
Welcome those who stand in support of the Constitution, when we win elections, and no matter how difficult or disappointing, when we lose.
But the naysayers? The complainers with no solutions? The conspiracy ppl? The election deniers?
I'm with Quinn. We're not obligated to welcome those who willingly avoid facts, twist the truth and print their lies and falsehoods.
Les The Captain of the Mother Ship is a perfect example of refusing to see what is in front of her nose.
ReplyDeleteShe's disgusted by Letitia James' story about her legal abortion, but has never written anything about Trump having been adjudicated and found liable for rape.
Letitia James committed no crime when she had her abortion, but Geeez and -FJ are appalled and disgusted by that "piece of dirt." Interesting word choice there, eh?
Donald Trump, found liable for raping E. Jean Carroll, and then had to pay $83 million for defaming her, not once, but twice, doesn't bother either Geeez nor -FJ. Situational ethics.
They say nothing about a man who raped and defamed his victim and who's seeking the presidency, but are appalled by a woman who discussed a legal medical procedure.
We live in an odd time.
HIPAA is to prevent exposing medical SECRETS? So why does the politician reveal a medical secret about herself?
ReplyDeleteManipulation, of course.
-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said... "HIPAA is to prevent exposing medical SECRETS? So why does the politician reveal a medical secret about herself?
ReplyDeleteManipulation, of course."
I could find NOTHING in the HIPAA law that prevents someone from disclosing his or her own medical procedures. If I had my appendix removed, there is nothing preventing me from telling anyone about it, publicly or privately. People publicly and freely disclose their own medical information all the time. We learned Trump had COVID because he disclosed it, and that his wife had a kidney procedure when she was FLOTUS, because the WH allowed it to be disclosed.
An abortion is still a legal medical procedure in many states. There's nothing manipulative or illegal about a girl or woman freely talking about her own procedure.
You twist everything that doesn't fit your incorrect narratives.
You failed on this one. Again.
Does -FJ the ..... ever NOT fail? LMAO!
DeleteWhether I agree with Letitia or not, her choice is her business so I respect that. At least it worked my friend from the right, old FJ and other righties into a tizzy so that's a good thing. The question I have though is just how many people post as FJ? Most comments he/she/it/ are meaningless one line babble but now and then he/she/it puts some kind of effort and has two or three sentences plus a quote from something or someone that is pretty much the same nonsense but at least shows some effort. I admire FJ's ability to compartmentalize his outrage. Rape is okay with him as long as it's Trump doing the raping. At least that's what I gather from his comments.
ReplyDeleteAs to Letitia revealing her abortion , it's known in public relations as getting out in front of a story. Manipulation or not, she was correct to do so.
Dave M. Thanks for introducing me to Jon Ralston.
ReplyDeleteI read a couple of his columns. The one about his trans child was particularly touching.
I don't know his political leanings, but it's clear he is dedicated to rooting out the truth as much as is possible.
I don't agree with Liz Cheney on just about any policy, but I do admire her courage in calling out Trump for the danger he is to our democracy. She put her political career on the line for her principles. Why more Republicans didn't follow is a deep mystery.
Liz Cheney, whether one agrees with her political positions or not, she is unquestionably a true American Patriot.
DeleteIt is so very revealing, for those who actually think, that the new and most definitely downgraded trumpublican party is all about ostracizing any and all true republicans (ya know, the ones respecting real party of Lincoln ideals) and making sure truth, righteousness, goodness, compassion, and decency is obscured. All for the nefarious desires of the nimrod trump. A man child who never grew out of his childish temper tantrums and disregard for all things he personally dislikes. A classic example of unbridled and uncontrolled narcissism.
trump is America's greatest danger to stability, as well as the greatest enemy of the freedoms and liberties and guaranteed in our Constitution.
Joe "Truth 101" Kelly,"
ReplyDelete-FJ tried to stick the HIPAA protection onto what Letitia freely disclosed. HIPAA protects patients from having OTHER PEOPLE or organizations disclose or seek their private medical information without the patients' permission.
There are still people in this country who would try to scandalize and shame a girl or woman who had a legal medical procedure, but ignore what the sexual assaulter/rapist did (a crime), and will even vote for that to lead our country.
If they didn't have double standards, Trumpers wouldn't have standards at all.
THIS COMMENT, RE: LETITIA JAMES, FROM ONE OF THE SAILORS ON THE MOTHER SHIP:
ReplyDeleteMUSTANG: "This won’t sound nice, but it’s true. To answer your question, look at who financially supported either of those idiots. Look at who voted for them. Review their election campaign rhetoric.
The bottom line here is this: you can always count on black people to vote for the individual who will do the black community the worst harm. Always. Makes you wonder if blacks have the intellect required for a healthy Republic."
Don't you just love when someone who isn't part of the Black community makes sweeping generalizations and pronouncements about the Black community?
He indicts an ENTIRE culture, implying that Black Americans aren't smart or capable enough to vote for THE PEOPLE THIS WHITE GUY APPROVES OF!
Dear Gawd! That is the very definition of a racist.
I read this blog to know what they think and what their biases are. They are Trumpers, and I like to keep up on what they're concerned about.
Today, it's about a Black AG who went after Trump for his illegal business transactions. Many, many people in the real estate business in NYC knew Trump was dishonest, but he got away with it, doing Gawd knows what. The law finally caught up with this fraud, and his cultists don't like it one bit.
So they blame the Black community for Trump's transgressions!
Of course!
Oh, and thanks, Thersites, for the link.
ReplyDeleteThersites Soldier says:
April 4, 2024 at 7:50 am
@Z – Did you know that YOU are the Captain of a Mothership?
https://progressiveerupts.blogspot.com/2024/04/the-mother-ships-captain-is-not-amused.html
I know, you probably don’t care. I just find it funny.
btw – I posted a comment (which disappeared) and then another (which disappeared). Question is, will this?
Trump raped someone? Who knew? People keep saying it, but that's NOT what the Courts found. Yet they repeat it and repeat it. You correct them, and they repeat it again...
ReplyDelete*tsk-tsk*. Mark Twain was right.
ReplyDelete-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said... "Trump raped someone? Who knew? People keep saying it, but that's NOT what the Courts found. Yet they repeat it and repeat it. You correct them, and they repeat it again..."
No. Wrong.
The judge in the E. Jean Carroll case said that what Trump did to her was, indeed, rape.
No one cares how many times you throw sand in our faces on this. The facts are there and the court has ruled that Donald Trump is a rapist.
"[Judge] has also pointed to the size of the jury's sexual abuse award − more than $2 million − as bolstering his conclusion that the verdict was based on finding Trump forcibly penetrated Carroll with his hand.
And that act, in common modern speech, is rape, Kaplan said.
As he later summed it up in August, when he dismissed Trump's countersuit: "It accordingly is the 'truth,' as relevant here, that Mr. Trump digitally raped Ms. Carroll." --USAToday
Judge to Trump: It’s Still “Substantially True” That You Raped E. Jean Carroll
A judge has tossed Donald Trump’s counterclaim against E. Jean Carroll, as the former president’s legal troubles keep piling up. --The New Republic
Donald Trump raped E. Jean Carroll even though he was found liable only for 'sexual abuse,' judge rules --Business Insider
--Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll--The Washington Post
A Federal Judge Has Gone to Great Lengths to Make Clear Trump Really Did Rape E. Jean Carroll
Why state-level legal minutiae impacts what words are used to describe the former president’s criminal conduct. --Mother Jones
"Facts are stubborn things." --John Adams
PS. As to -FJ's link on Mark Twain's quote, -FJ accuses himself of being an idiot.
ReplyDelete-FJ cannot and will not link to any evidence that refutes what Judge Kaplan found in the E. Jean Carroll civil sexual assault case:
"That Donald Trump did indeed rape her."
The Twain quote was apocryphal, and so was the 2nd judge's quote in the Carroll case. The 1st judge ruled it "not rape", and they're the ones who actually examined the evidence. :)
ReplyDeleteShaw... regarding evidence from the MAGA extremists...
ReplyDeleteOf course they do not provide any. Because there isn't any. I made a reasonable request of Skud, who I see as at least a little more moderate, for some specifics on presidential qualifications and border policy. Of course we get nothing.
I've asked before of others for specifics or like you, evidence, for example of the fraud of the 2020 election. I've been told they don't have it, they just know it.
They just know it because it comports with their beliefs. But none of those beliefs based in objective facts, evidence or truth. And when we demand more, we hear how we use "lawfare" to gain an advantage, or we get philosophical links and videos to assorted crazed lunatics and more.
But never the specifics, or real factual evidence that is the coin of the realm in respectful debate or argumentation.
This crowd is behind the eight ball, stuck defending a president who watched for three hours as DC and Capitol Police were "savagely beaten and injured" by Trump supporting terrorists/insurrectionists/tourists [quote from the GOP Senate report on Jan 6]. They're defending a point of view that these thugs are "freedom fighters", "political prisoners" and "hostages".
So they can't produce facts, truth, evidence or specifics. Because the actions they defend from Jan 6 are, as even Karl Rove says, “a stain on our history, and every one of those sons of bitches who did that, we ought to find them, try them and send them to jail.”
I'm with Ralston and historic Christianity on this... unless and until we have an admission of responsibility of their sins, and a sincere apology for their attempts to destroy democracy, we should not allow them back into polite society.
Or even bother responding to their bizarre rantings. Highlight their idiocy, yes.
Engage them? What's the use?
When we're ALL gone, whether we realize it or not, no one will remember we were here or care.
ReplyDeleteReality is not really what most of us generally accept as reality. Our conditioning and ego tend to insure reality remains obscured. That and we spend more time in ruminating about the past or worrying about the future in the effort to control it, than we do in the present moment.
And we continue on with our cherished attachments, belief system, aversions, and chasing after our desires w/o ever considering the truth.
Sad.
When E. Jean Carroll and Donald Trump went to trial last spring over her sexual assault allegations, a nine-person civil jury found that Trump sexually abused her but that she failed to prove he raped her.
ReplyDeleteJudge Kaplan should quote the jury verdict.
Under New York criminal law, an assault constitutes "rape" only if it involves vaginal penetration by a penis. That was the definition the jury was instructed to use in the civil case.
ReplyDeleteThe judge has the final say. He knows the law. Trump is a rapist.
ReplyDeleteWhew! Step away from the interwebz for a day and wow, what I missed!
ReplyDeleteThe more stories told in public of women choosing what is best for their life, for their health care means other women (not as open or able to be open) know they are not alone when faced with the same choices today, i.e. if they survived, so can I.
So I've been reading the many faced trolls objection to calling the former loser not my president gurl a rapist because he was convicted of sexual assault. Oh my stars and garters. It's a difference with a tiny distinction. With the trolls continued insistence they are actually calling out the former guys well, lack of distinction shall we say, in the genital department. It means in plain speak, Trumps sexual organs were too tiny for him to penetrate so he had to use his fingers (rape vs sexual assault).
Not sure that was the image our troll wanted to leave in everyone's mind but that's the image I get whenever someone insists the former guy isn't a rapist. In every aspect of life, the former guy is just a loser. Randy Rainbow covered this issue in his parody Very Stable Genius. Key line (Queen Elizabeth did NOT see that coming).
As for the cultists... If one has a relative who is in the cult one must consider them to be like an addict, not worthy of trust because they will do anything to get their cultist fix. I should know as I've been there, did that, and had to do massive amounts of work to get my life back. Unless the cultist in your life does the work towards redemption you can't trust them to be anything other than a cultist. It sucks but it is reality.
I stepped away because my mom needed my help. Didn't know it also meant we would be reviewing how I came back to my family after being in the cult. Lots of tears, lots of hugs, and so many apologies on my side for causing as much harm as I did. I'll never make it up to them but that's not the point of why I continue. I continue because they are happy I'm back. It means I do my best to live up to their joy in my continued existence because it's about them, not me.
-FJ... " shameful abortion secrets exposed"
ReplyDeleteHey FJ, you don't care about your shameful love of tRUMP exposed.
The Captain of the Mother Ship claims that I misquote her.
ReplyDeleteI actually copy, cut and paste her texts from her blog here for discussion. No misquoting there.
Her claim can only mean that even SHE is appalled at what she writes, since what I post here are her EXACT statements.
This is not unusual in MAGA world — denying their own words.
Let's give my friend from the right, JoeC somes props for taking Trump's raping and at least admitting Trump is a sexual assaulter. This must have been difficult for him as he is conditioned to believe that Trump is infallible, his urine tastes of honey and his feces have the fragrance of lavender. Dine well at the table of Trump JoeC along with you many other monikers.
ReplyDeleteNot ONLY did you misquote ME, but you also exaggerated the entire situation!
ReplyDeleteGrey One talks sass,
ReplyDeleteThe judge in the E. Jean Carroll defamation case confirmed that Trump did indeed rape Ms. Carroll. Trump inserted his fingers into her vagina — digital rape. Period.
Notice how Trumpers will try to defend Trump for that.
The Trumpist I've been annoying with facts revealed his conversion by drinking the koolade and accepting the holy infallible election lies of Trump as gospel.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure he deeply resents and hate ME for reminding him of his conversion.
First he denied reality and decided to BELIEVE Trump's Big Lie. Biden won a fair election according to ALL counts, recounts, certifications, audits, Trump’s AG and DOJ, Trump’s White House Counsel, Trump’s Homeland Security, and 60 courts.
This evidence stands. NONE of Trump's wild claims or so-called proof does. None.
Next he had to embrace Trump's Holy Coup to overturn the election. Like many other cultists January 6 shocked them from their delusions momentarily. But they soon ran back into the comfort of their Big Daddy telling them what is real and what isn't.
I saved his words.
This is what Darrell wrote at my blog on Jan 8, 2021:
“Dave, Trump was wrong to give encouragement and a wink and a nod to the protestors and delaying any attempt to rein them back. He was complicit. Sadly this ego maniacal narcissist tarnished the myriad of good things he has done for our country with this latest escapade.”
This is what Darrell wrote on May 15, 2021:
“Trump instigates a riot according to the left and the media, but then I repeat myself. (He didn’t.)”
My appeals for an explanation for this conversion fell on deaf ears.
The ONLY response they have to this proof of their cultish BELIEF in Trump is anger and accusation. And yup. I'm clearly a "Marxist" who "hates America" for pointing that out.
And this is the demarcation line the have crossed, from being gullible radical Right dupes to a clear and present danger to our democratic republic and to the lives of Americans.
As 1/6 showed us, many of them are willing to KILL and DIE for Trump. Theirs is the same cultish response as Germans had to Hitler's hate and lies. How many more Americans will die at the hands of this deranged and evil cult?
They will go mad with rage and violence whether Trump wins or loses. All of those who do their Constitutional duty to hold their Fuhrer accountable to the rule of law will be targets. All who disagree their Mendacious Malevolent Messiah will be called traitors, communists, Nazis, and any term that frames US as the "real enemies of America". Trump IS America to his cult. They WANT revenge, retribution, and BLOODSHED for anyone who stands in the way of their "only one" who was chosen by God to save America.
I wish I was exaggerating, but they keep telling us what they are.
Acta non Verba.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said... "Not ONLY did you misquote ME, but you also exaggerated the entire situation!"
ReplyDeleteIs that you Geeez? Please read my post. It is an exact copy of what you posted. Not misquoted.
Also, how could ANYONE exaggerate the outrageous statements you made?
You're welcome to come here and set the record straight, if you wish.
Here at P.E. people with opposing points of view are allowed (as long as they don't try to hijack the discussion, like a certain commenter with the initials, F.J., often does.) No one with an opposing point of view is allowed on your blog. That in itself deserves ridicule.
That in itself deserves ridicule.
ReplyDeleteNo, it demonstrate the consistent principles of an Ego Ideal instead of the arbitrariness of a SuperEgo.
BIG difference.
Shaw... "Not ONLY did you misquote ME, but you also exaggerated the entire situation!"
ReplyDeleteHa!!!!
You see what happens?
When called on real facts, like in this case, the MAGA ppl dodge and deflect and this is a perfect example. Here she, and I assume anon is the Captain, simply denies what we all see directly on the blog.
Another dodge frequently used is when that crowd uses false quotes from people to "prove a point" and when called on the accuracy or veracity of the quote, we hear how none of that changes the reality or "facts" of the quote.
That line about exaggeration sounds exactly like what Ducky and I would hear back when we were allowed to comment there.
Thanks -FJ for running up to the 'Poop Deck" to tattle on us.
You've slammed us here for not posting all of your comments in past. Does it bother you that we can't even post over there? Does Z have a right to not post our comments? Does Shaw have a right to not post your comments?
Con, republicans, and trump cultist are extremely adverse to truth. Their Fuhrer trump expects it of them so they obediently give the salute and lie, lie, lie for him with their cultist support.
ReplyDeleteAnd trump, he's likely the biggest pathological liar in the country. As well as a rapist, insurrectionist, lousy businessman (5 bankruptcies), and disasterous ine term president.
You've slammed us here for not posting all of your comments in past. Does it bother you that we can't even post over there? Does Z have a right to not post our comments? Does Shaw have a right to not post your comments?
ReplyDeleteRight and Good Sense are two different things. Some are based in principles. Other are based upon impulses. I simply point out the differences. And btw- Unravelling the exceptions to principles usually reveals the "hidden rule/principle" behind the formation of the principle. Its what "judges" in the legal system are for, and why we don't blindly enforce laws. Discretion is often the better part of valour.
For both Z and pShaw's blog posting policies defend an ideology. At my blogs, I allow any posts made that don't just clutter the pursuit of a discussion (ie -Spam) regardless of ideology of the commenter to remain on all my blogs. I value the discussion, and not a shouting down of arguments or spam capitalism to drive my "exceptions".
ReplyDeleteCase in point from Zizek's "Goads and Prods" today:
ReplyDeleteAlthough I am not a fan of Sex and the City, there is an interesting point made in one of the episodes where Miranda gets involved with a guy who like to talk dirty all the time during sex, and since she prefer to keep silent while making love, he solicits her to also talk whatever dirty things pop up in her mind, with no restraint. First she resists, but then she also gets caught in this game, and things work well, their sex is intense and passionate, till… till she says something that really disturbs her lover, makes him totally withdraw into himself, and leads to the break of their relationship. In the middle of her babble, she mentions that she noticed how he enjoys when, while he makes love to her, she pushes her finger into his ass. Unknowingly, she thereby touches the exception: yes, talk about anything you want, spill out all the dirty images that pop up in your head, except that.
The lesson of this incident is important: even the universality of talking freely is based on some exception, not in the sense of extreme brutality. The prohibited detail is in itself a minor and rather innocent thing, and we can only guess what the guy is so sensitive about it – in all probability, it is because the passive experience it involved (anal penetration) disturbs his masculine identification. Sexual interplay is full of such exceptions where a silent understanding and tact offer the only way to proceed when one wants things done but not explicitly spoken about, when extreme emotional brutality can be enacted in the guise of politeness and when moderate violence itself can get sexualized.
Joe said... "I value the discussion..."
ReplyDeleteNo Joe, you don't value the discussion. You, or -FJ, or whoever all the monikers that seem to be associated with you, including the Camel man, MAGA Jew, Thersites, Farmer and more seem to exist not for dialogue, but as trolls.
Dialogue requires engagement, back and forth, give and take, because no one is right all the time. You value none of that, either here, or on other sites where you have posted, some that have closed because of you.
You and your amigos spam posts with your ideology, culled from other opinion sites and never directly engage on, or answer questions. Because you are not an honest warrior.
I get it, at times I can do the same. But you can look over the body or, existing for years, and see that yes, I admit when I am wrong, admit when people I favor screw up, admit that my political favs are bad actors sometimes and admit when folks on the other side of the aisle do a better job.
I've never seen that from you, singular, or you, plural, if all those monikers don't truly belong to one person.
Why do you even come here? Is it to show us our idiocy? Trust me, most of us know it. And in the event we don't, hear this... you've not gained the trust for us to hear it from you.
I think a protagonist is a good thing on a blog site. But, it has to be someone willing to engage, not just blast, as you do.
Why not spend your time blasting at places where your style is more welcome? Like Geeez right now?
I don't know man... your welcome here. You/All of you, seem smart. Why not engage honestly? At least we can have a discussion with Skud.
You seem to exist simply to disrupt, something you've admitted before.
WHY?
Dave M,
ReplyDeleteAs you noted about our Kremlin/MAGA agent, "Why not engage honestly? At least we can have a discussion with Skud. You seem to exist simply to disrupt, something you've admitted before. WHY?"
What you said WILL be ignored. They don't answer questions and explain NOTHING. It's the Kremlin/MAGA way.
We may as well as a Moonie, "Why are you in that hideous cult?" And of course, they ARE Republicans and Trump supporters.
I've been away for years from the blogs Dave. But the capacity for willful stupidity has only grown for the righties that post has only grown. That FJ and are the same person or group of people is obvious. They used to post from the same IP address years ago. Dozens of monikers. That they have not grown intellectually is proof to them that evolution is false. Yet they prove the reverse, or Costanza theory of deevolution. A survival of the stupidest to describe it in terms righties may understand. I see no reason to try and engage with these deluded fools on a level above second grader as that's as high as their mental powers are. I'm with Thomas Jefferson. Ridiculing them is all they deserve.
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