And there will be millions and millions who will gladly vote for VP Harris over the convicted felon and adjudicated rapist. Those millions are NOT choosing the lesser of two evils.
There is NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING "evil" about VP Harris, and it is wrong for you to describe her as such. She has not committed crimes as Trump has; she has not violated another human being as Trump has; she has not cheated workmen and women out of their money as Trump has; she has not called military men and women who were wounded or gave their lives for this country, "losers and suckers; and NEVER would she instigate an insurrection to overthrow a free and fair election as Trump did. THOSE ARE ALL EVIL DEEDS!
Just because you hate Democrats and Liberals, you should not label Harris as evil, unless you have solid evidence that she's committed the acts I listed above that Trump has committed -- which any normal human being would call "evil."
That "evil" is what the current Republican Party wants to govern our country. The current Republican Party chooses evil over country. That stench will stay with the GOP for centuries to come.
Somehow Skud conjures the phrase, "banality of evil". At some point we have to call out bothsiderism as an evil in itself because of its tolerance of Trump as a normal evil and Dems as equal to that.
skud will be holding his nose as he votes for Trump.
And wishing the fascist candidate were a less egregiously ignorant loud mouth than the authoritarian loud mouth fascist Trump.
Holding your nose and voting for an insurrectionist with fascist proclivities is, to a person who fully supports democracy over authoritarian chaos, the heights of wilfull ignorance.
But wilfull ignorance is a right that millions will exercise this coming Tuesday.
America is on the edge of the abyss and the dangers of a Fascist christian Theocracy is very real. One that will be no better than the Islamic Theocracies the old republicans professed to hate. And now, two peas in a pod. In reality.
HARRIS/WALZ FOR DEMOCRACY, FREEDOM, LIBERTY, and DECENCY.
I have family and friends in France, Italy, and Spain, and they are astounded that there are people in our country who could even consider having the criminal Trump in the presidency again.
Add in friends in family in Norway, Switzerland and Austria. Europe has seen enough buffoonery in the last half of the last century. It's what Fascists do.
Thanks to the new Axis of Evil, including Murdoch/FOX(R), Trump, and Putin, we live in the "Disinformation Age" where truth is buried and the lies are relentless.
How we can get out of this dense fog and darkness of fascism is beyond my field of vision, but it does conform to Orwell's "1984" to a frightening degree.
Of course children should be taught about God. Yet these liberals want to deny our children the opportunity to learn about God. Our Founding Fathers must be turning over in their graves
Children should be taught about God IN THEIR HOMES AND CHURCH! PERIOD! You are OBVIOUSLY not an American because an American would know that our Founding Fathers were deists. Our laws are based on our Constitution where God is not mentioned once. Not once. It is "We the People" who reign supreme, not any god or gods.
I can't blame you, Anon, for not knowing this, since you obviously are not American and didn't learn this in school.
Maybe Anonymous can answer a question or two about God, since he has been "taught" what there is to know. 1. Is He white? 1. Is His hair white? 2. How long is His beard? 3. Does He have any hobbies? 4. Why does He allow children to die from cancer? 5. Why didn't He help His "chosen people" during the Holocaust? 6. Where did our founders include God in the Constitution? 7. What did God say about abortion, trans-gender, and drag queens? 8. When did He tell us to vote for Trump?
You didn't consider that there are millions of voters who are not trumpers and are not yellow dogs. These people will vote for the candidate who will serve the country better then their opponent and do not vote for that touchy, feel good reason but sound economic reasons. According to Les that puts them in the greedy category. We are only a week away from finding out who wins the election and then the true hate begins.
We don't know the nature of anon's whereabouts. They could be from anywhere. What we DO know is anon is absolutely ignorant of US history but pretends to be wise.
"We have seen that the existence of two contradictory propagandas is no solution at all as it in no way leads to a 'democratic' situation: the individual is not... a supreme Arbiter when he decides in favor of the more honest and convincing (candidate)... The individual is seized, manipulated, attacked from every side: the combatants of two propaganda systems do not fight each other, but try to capture him.
As a result the individual suffers the most profound psychological influences and distortions. Man modified in this fashion demands simple solutions, catch words... a clear and simple division into Good and Evil... he cannot bear ambiguity. He cannot bear that the opponent should in any way whatever represent what is right or good." (254-255) -Jacques Ellul
The individuals in this election have the choice between a convicted felon, adjudicated rapist, Liar, Cheat, and Fraud, and a prosecutor who put people like Trump in prison.
You don't need to be a philosopher to understand what the rational choice is.
Ms. Shaw, You are consistent in mentioning convicted felon and adjudicated rapist but fail to mention how the opposing party has spent millions to discredit him from the day he announced running. It does make some wonder what the democrats are afraid of to spend so much ammunition attacking one person. He was not convicted of rape 20 years ago but found guilty by a judge who was vocal in his hatred of trump. He was found guilty by a NYC jury who was biased and was pulled off the campaign trail by his opponent. When it because apparent the democrat was not capable of winning they threw him away and chose the most disliked VP in recent history without a vote so it was another anointed selection. You support a person who said she is going to turn around the last four years of her failed administration and going to improve on the last decade of leadership which has been controlled by democrats 60% of that time. The DNC owns the press so I doubt she will lose but to say she is honest is an outright fabrication.
What on earth are you talking about? Who pulled Trump off the campaign trail? Trump's been holding rallies and campaigning since he lost the 2020 election!
It is YOUR OPINION that the jury was biased. You were not at the trial, you did not hear the evidence presented before the jury. Are you one of those people who yell UNFAIR! when their favorite criminal pays the price for his crimes? It would seem that you are.
You apparently are outraged because Trump, the sexual assaulter/rapist, was held accountable for his disgusting treatment of his victim. Trump is actually on RECORD telling the world that he can grab women "by the pussy." Another one of his victims is on record saying that he did just that while sitting next to him on an airplane -- he shoved his hands up her skirt and touched her private parts. That's what you're defending? Do you have a wife? daughters? sisters?
Trump is actually on record bragging about barging in on young teens in the Miss Teen Beauty contests so he could ogle the underage girls while they' were half naked. He's bragged about this disgusting behavior.
Trump is a sexual predator, and you're angry he's been held accountable for his perverted behavior? He is also on record as a frequent flyer on Jeffrey Epstein's "Lolita Express," and partied for years with Epstein and Maxwell, both pedophiles -- child rapists.
That's what you're defending.
You keep repeating that VP Harris was the most unpopular VP, but are unbothered by the fact that Trump was THE MOST UNPOPULAR POTUS! And yet his party chose him to run again for the presidency. What's your point?
VP Harris is well liked now, and that's when it matters. You sound very angry that she's been so well received by millions and millions of Americans. Once the American people got to see her and listen to her, they decided she was a gazillion times a better human being than the miserable human wreckage, Trump. VP Harris has been a phenom! Think of how she has skyrocketed in approval by the American people since she became the candidate.
You obviously are enraged that she's done so well in so short a time.
Here's the thing: VP Harris is a decent, honorable woman. You don't like her or her policies, fine. But to impugn her reputation -- her honesty -- without a jot of evidence to back that slur up just because you hate the idea that she might become the POTUS is a reflection on YOU, not her. And certainly not the Americans who support her.
Skud lies with the ease of an authoritarian personality.
Is Kamala "a person who said she is going to turn around the last four years of her failed administration"?
Where did she say that, Skud?
No answer expected.
The same applies to my request for your favorite vice-president's accomplishments compared to hers. Which one was that, Skud? Did you even give it even one second's thought before you demeaned a woman you truly hate? Now you're defending Trump as if HE is a victim! You prefer a criminal to the prosecutor. Your sympathies are with the guy who LOST and LIED about the 2020 election. Not a peep of condemnation for your fellow authoritarian who sent an angry mob to overturn our election. I take it you approved. Not a peep about him watching it on TV for HOURS before calling off his thugs. That doesn't bother you as much as your fabricated scorn for the woman who shows better character, intelligence and decency than the CRIMINAL INSURRECTIONIST that you feel a need to DEFEND. As Shaw said, this is a reflection on YOU.
Dube, I will give you an answer which for you I normally choose not to. What does a new way forward mean if not to move away from the past or the failures of the current administration. When she talks about the failures of the last decade she is talking about the failures of the democrats because they controlled 6 of the last 10 years. I do have issues with someone coming forward with allegations of a crime from 25 years ago. This is a tactic the democrats are in habit of using just before a big event, SCOTUS approval, Election etc. Very convenient and the best part is the "victim" can't remember exactly when something happened or the particular circumstances, one didn't even know the date yet they must be telling the truth.
We need to have empathy for poor joey b because instead of winning an election he was kicked to the curb by a party he was part of for almost 50 years. Poor joe and jill because she looses her prestige and riding on AF1 to hold up her husband.
Jan 6th was a fiasco and trump could have done more but so could madam pelosi and poor AOC sheltering in her office in another building because she knew she was going to be attacked. Should be a plot for a movie. BTW what happened to christine ford?
skud: "Jan 6th was a fiasco and trump could have done more but so could madam pelosi..."
Repeating lies do not make them true. The above is a lie about Speaker Pelosi. The TRUTH is that Trump watched for 2+ hours as his armed thugs beat LEOs, and Trump said nothing. It was not up to Speaker Pelosi to call Trump's armed thugs off of the LEOs they were beating.
As I've said before, skud, you obviously do not look for the facts; you just repeat lies.
From the AP: Former President Donald Trump falsely claimed that then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi “turned down” his offer to send “10,000 soldiers or National Guard” to the Capitol during the Jan. 6 insurrection.
Pelosi does not direct the National Guard. Further, as the Capitol came under attack, she and then-Senate Majority leader Mitch McConnell called for military assistance, including from the National Guard.
You do yourself no favors, skud, when you repeat lies and disinformation.
skud: "I do have issues with someone coming forward with allegations of a crime from 25 years ago."
I don't. Anyway, you were not at the civil trial and you heard NONE of the evidence given to the jury, which the said jury believed and found Trump liable for his digital rape of E.J.C.. Apparently you'd be okay with Trump never facing consequences for shoving his finger into E. Jean Carroll's vagina and getting away with it? That's your male response to rape!
Trump himself admitted to "grabbing women by their pu**ies! He incriminated himself with his own words, add that to the 10+ women who've accused him of sexual assault.
And here you have a hard time with someone coming forward with this rape accusations after 25 years. What would you have had E.J.C. do?
Just get over it? I hope you never have to tell that to any of your female relatives.
"Trump could have done more", opines Skud. More of what? Lead the charge? He SENT the mob to the Capitol to OVERTURN the election. That doesn't seem to sink into Skud's head.
Skud can't seem to consider Trump should never have assembled his mob of thugs in the first place. His intent was clearly criminal and evil. "But Kamala..."
OK. Skud can't quote Kamala saying, "a person who said she is going to turn around the last four years of her failed administration".
He lied.
And he's also very reluctant to inform us on his favorite vice-president's accomplishments compared to hers.
He's got nothing. Hot air, resentments, and hate for Democrats are all he's about.
Intelligent Patriotic Americans Don't.
ReplyDeleteAnti American MAGA Cultists Do.
Unfortunately, 10's of millions of Americans do.
ReplyDeleteLots of MAGA cultists.
ReplyDeleteMaybe this will be the one good thing that comes from him running (and losing). A felony disqualifies anyone for any public office.
ReplyDeleteThere will be millions of voters who will hold their nose and vote for what they consider the lessor of the two evils.
ReplyDeleteAnd there will be millions and millions who will gladly vote for VP Harris over the convicted felon and adjudicated rapist. Those millions are NOT choosing the lesser of two evils.
DeleteThere is NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING "evil" about VP Harris, and it is wrong for you to describe her as such. She has not committed crimes as Trump has; she has not violated another human being as Trump has; she has not cheated workmen and women out of their money as Trump has; she has not called military men and women who were wounded or gave their lives for this country, "losers and suckers; and NEVER would she instigate an insurrection to overthrow a free and fair election as Trump did. THOSE ARE ALL EVIL DEEDS!
Just because you hate Democrats and Liberals, you should not label Harris as evil, unless you have solid evidence that she's committed the acts I listed above that Trump has committed -- which any normal human being would call "evil."
That "evil" is what the current Republican Party wants to govern our country.
The current Republican Party chooses evil over country. That stench will stay with the GOP for centuries to come.
Somehow Skud conjures the phrase, "banality of evil". At some point we have to call out bothsiderism as an evil in itself because of its tolerance of Trump as a normal evil and Dems as equal to that.
ReplyDeleteskud will be holding his nose as he votes for Trump.
ReplyDeleteAnd wishing the fascist candidate were a less egregiously ignorant loud mouth than the authoritarian loud mouth fascist Trump.
Holding your nose and voting for an insurrectionist with fascist proclivities is, to a person who fully supports democracy over authoritarian chaos, the heights of wilfull ignorance.
But wilfull ignorance is a right that millions will exercise this coming Tuesday.
America is on the edge of the abyss and the dangers of a Fascist christian Theocracy is very real. One that will be no better than the Islamic Theocracies the old republicans professed to hate. And now, two peas in a pod. In reality.
HARRIS/WALZ FOR DEMOCRACY, FREEDOM, LIBERTY, and DECENCY.
I have family and friends in France, Italy, and Spain, and they are astounded that there are people in our country who could even consider having the criminal Trump in the presidency again.
DeleteAdd in friends in family in Norway, Switzerland and Austria. Europe has seen enough buffoonery in the last half of the last century. It's what Fascists do.
DeleteThanks to the new Axis of Evil, including Murdoch/FOX(R), Trump, and Putin, we live in the "Disinformation Age" where truth is buried and the lies are relentless.
ReplyDeleteHow we can get out of this dense fog and darkness of fascism is beyond my field of vision, but it does conform to Orwell's "1984" to a frightening degree.
Of course children should be taught about God. Yet these liberals want to deny our children the opportunity to learn about God. Our Founding Fathers must be turning over in their graves
ReplyDeleteChildren should be taught about God IN THEIR HOMES AND CHURCH! PERIOD! You are OBVIOUSLY not an American because an American would know that our Founding Fathers were deists. Our laws are based on our Constitution where God is not mentioned once. Not once. It is "We the People" who reign supreme, not any god or gods.
DeleteI can't blame you, Anon, for not knowing this, since you obviously are not American and didn't learn this in school.
Maybe Anonymous can answer a question or two about God, since he has been "taught" what there is to know.
ReplyDelete1. Is He white?
1. Is His hair white?
2. How long is His beard?
3. Does He have any hobbies?
4. Why does He allow children to die from cancer?
5. Why didn't He help His "chosen people" during the Holocaust?
6. Where did our founders include God in the Constitution?
7. What did God say about abortion, trans-gender, and drag queens?
8. When did He tell us to vote for Trump?
You didn't consider that there are millions of voters who are not trumpers and are not yellow dogs. These people will vote for the candidate who will serve the country better then their opponent and do not vote for that touchy, feel good reason but sound economic reasons. According to Les that puts them in the greedy category. We are only a week away from finding out who wins the election and then the true hate begins.
ReplyDeleteWe don't know the nature of anon's whereabouts. They could be from anywhere. What we DO know is anon is absolutely ignorant of US history but pretends to be wise.
ReplyDelete"We have seen that the existence of two contradictory propagandas is no solution at all as it in no way leads to a 'democratic' situation: the individual is not... a supreme Arbiter when he decides in favor of the more honest and convincing (candidate)... The individual is seized, manipulated, attacked from every side: the combatants of two propaganda systems do not fight each other, but try to capture him.
ReplyDeleteAs a result the individual suffers the most profound psychological influences and distortions. Man modified in this fashion demands simple solutions, catch words... a clear and simple division into Good and Evil... he cannot bear ambiguity. He cannot bear that the opponent should in any way whatever represent what is right or good." (254-255)
-Jacques Ellul
The individuals in this election have the choice between a convicted felon, adjudicated rapist, Liar, Cheat, and Fraud, and a prosecutor who put people like Trump in prison.
DeleteYou don't need to be a philosopher to understand what the rational choice is.
"No major party presidential candidate, much less president, in American history has been accused of wrongdoing so many times."
DeleteAndy in Kansas 🇺🇸
ReplyDelete@mountainmoon95
I'm a white male Joe Rogan fan.
And I voted for Kamala Harris without even blinking.
This isn't about men or women.
It's about normal intelligence and decency.
Ms. Shaw, You are consistent in mentioning convicted felon and adjudicated rapist but fail to mention how the opposing party has spent millions to discredit him from the day he announced running. It does make some wonder what the democrats are afraid of to spend so much ammunition attacking one person. He was not convicted of rape 20 years ago but found guilty by a judge who was vocal in his hatred of trump. He was found guilty by a NYC jury who was biased and was pulled off the campaign trail by his opponent. When it because apparent the democrat was not capable of winning they threw him away and chose the most disliked VP in recent history without a vote so it was another anointed selection.
ReplyDeleteYou support a person who said she is going to turn around the last four years of her failed administration and going to improve on the last decade of leadership which has been controlled by democrats 60% of that time.
The DNC owns the press so I doubt she will lose but to say she is honest is an outright fabrication.
What on earth are you talking about? Who pulled Trump off the campaign trail? Trump's been holding rallies and campaigning since he lost the 2020 election!
DeleteIt is YOUR OPINION that the jury was biased. You were not at the trial, you did not hear the evidence presented before the jury. Are you one of those people who yell UNFAIR! when their favorite criminal pays the price for his crimes? It would seem that you are.
You apparently are outraged because Trump, the sexual assaulter/rapist, was held accountable for his disgusting treatment of his victim. Trump is actually on RECORD telling the world that he can grab women "by the pussy." Another one of his victims is on record saying that he did just that while sitting next to him on an airplane -- he shoved his hands up her skirt and touched her private parts. That's what you're defending? Do you have a wife? daughters? sisters?
Trump is actually on record bragging about barging in on young teens in the Miss Teen Beauty contests so he could ogle the underage girls while they' were half naked. He's bragged about this disgusting behavior.
Trump is a sexual predator, and you're angry he's been held accountable for his perverted behavior? He is also on record as a frequent flyer on Jeffrey Epstein's "Lolita Express," and partied for years with Epstein and Maxwell, both pedophiles -- child rapists.
That's what you're defending.
You keep repeating that VP Harris was the most unpopular VP, but are unbothered by the fact that Trump was THE MOST UNPOPULAR POTUS! And yet his party chose him to run again for the presidency. What's your point?
VP Harris is well liked now, and that's when it matters. You sound very angry that she's been so well received by millions and millions of Americans. Once the American people got to see her and listen to her, they decided she was a gazillion times a better human being than the miserable human wreckage, Trump. VP Harris has been a phenom! Think of how she has skyrocketed in approval by the American people since she became the candidate.
You obviously are enraged that she's done so well in so short a time.
Here's the thing: VP Harris is a decent, honorable woman. You don't like her or her policies, fine. But to impugn her reputation -- her honesty -- without a jot of evidence to back that slur up just because you hate the idea that she might become the POTUS is a reflection on YOU, not her. And certainly not the Americans who support her.
Skud lies with the ease of an authoritarian personality.
ReplyDeleteIs Kamala "a person who said she is going to turn around the last four years of her failed administration"?
Where did she say that, Skud?
No answer expected.
The same applies to my request for your favorite vice-president's accomplishments compared to hers. Which one was that, Skud? Did you even give it even one second's thought before you demeaned a woman you truly hate?
Now you're defending Trump as if HE is a victim! You prefer a criminal to the prosecutor. Your sympathies are with the guy who LOST and LIED about the 2020 election. Not a peep of condemnation for your fellow authoritarian who sent an angry mob to overturn our election. I take it you approved.
Not a peep about him watching it on TV for HOURS before calling off his thugs. That doesn't bother you as much as your fabricated scorn for the woman who shows better character, intelligence and decency than the CRIMINAL INSURRECTIONIST that you feel a need to DEFEND.
As Shaw said, this is a reflection on YOU.
Dube, I will give you an answer which for you I normally choose not to.
ReplyDeleteWhat does a new way forward mean if not to move away from the past or the failures of the current administration. When she talks about the failures of the last decade she is talking about the failures of the democrats because they controlled 6 of the last 10 years.
I do have issues with someone coming forward with allegations of a crime from 25 years ago. This is a tactic the democrats are in habit of using just before a big event, SCOTUS approval, Election etc. Very convenient and the best part is the "victim" can't remember exactly when something happened or the particular circumstances, one didn't even know the date yet they must be telling the truth.
We need to have empathy for poor joey b because instead of winning an election he was kicked to the curb by a party he was part of for almost 50 years. Poor joe and jill because she looses her prestige and riding on AF1 to hold up her husband.
Jan 6th was a fiasco and trump could have done more but so could madam pelosi and poor AOC sheltering in her office in another building because she knew she was going to be attacked. Should be a plot for a movie. BTW what happened to christine ford?
skud: "Jan 6th was a fiasco and trump could have done more but so could madam pelosi..."
DeleteRepeating lies do not make them true. The above is a lie about Speaker Pelosi. The TRUTH is that Trump watched for 2+ hours as his armed thugs beat LEOs, and Trump said nothing. It was not up to Speaker Pelosi to call Trump's armed thugs off of the LEOs they were beating.
As I've said before, skud, you obviously do not look for the facts; you just repeat lies.
From the AP: Former President Donald Trump falsely claimed that then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi “turned down” his offer to send “10,000 soldiers or National Guard” to the Capitol during the Jan. 6 insurrection.
Pelosi does not direct the National Guard. Further, as the Capitol came under attack, she and then-Senate Majority leader Mitch McConnell called for military assistance, including from the National Guard.
You do yourself no favors, skud, when you repeat lies and disinformation.
skud: "I do have issues with someone coming forward with allegations of a crime from 25 years ago."
I don't. Anyway, you were not at the civil trial and you heard NONE of the evidence given to the jury, which the said jury believed and found Trump liable for his digital rape of E.J.C.. Apparently you'd be okay with Trump never facing consequences for shoving his finger into E. Jean Carroll's vagina and getting away with it? That's your male response to rape!
Trump himself admitted to "grabbing women by their pu**ies! He incriminated himself with his own words, add that to the 10+ women who've accused him of sexual assault.
And here you have a hard time with someone coming forward with this rape accusations after 25 years. What would you have had E.J.C. do?
Just get over it? I hope you never have to tell that to any of your female relatives.
"Trump could have done more", opines Skud. More of what? Lead the charge? He SENT the mob to the Capitol to OVERTURN the election. That doesn't seem to sink into Skud's head.
ReplyDeleteSkud can't seem to consider Trump should never have assembled his mob of thugs in the first place. His intent was clearly criminal and evil. "But Kamala..."
OK. Skud can't quote Kamala saying, "a person who said she is going to turn around the last four years of her failed administration".
He lied.
And he's also very reluctant to inform us on his favorite vice-president's accomplishments compared to hers.
He's got nothing. Hot air, resentments, and hate for Democrats are all he's about.