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Wednesday, June 11, 2014

Cantor Out!



The idea that there was room to the right of extreme righty, Eric Cantor, seemed ridiculous, but yet his primary opponent, Dave Brat (yes, that's his real name), found just that and beat him:




Jonathan Chait:



[T]he biggest issue by far was immigration reform. Cantor was no reformer, really. He rejected the bipartisan immigration reform deal that Marco Rubio and other Republicans had negotiated in the Senate. But he did hope to salvage some partial compromise, perhaps allowing some illegal immigrants who had been brought over the border as children, and thus could not be deemed personally guilty, to stay unmolested. Brat rejected even that. Any token of conciliation was too much. He still uses the old lingo, calling undocumented immigrants “illegals.” The immediate, and probably correct, reaction in Washington is that Cantor’s defeat wipes out whatever tiny shred of a hope that remained for immigration reform.



For all practical purposes, the CW is that immigration reform, like Cantor's bid for re-election, is DEAD.


But wait, there's more.  Did the Democrats in the 7th district contribute to Cantor's loss? 

Here are some analyses via Andrew Sullivan's blog:


Sullivan blog reader:   I live in the 7th District in Virginia, and I am a Democrat who voted for David Brat in the open primary. There has been a whisper campaign going on among the Democrats in the district for the last few weeks and it resulted in many Democrats coming out to vote for Brat. We felt especially encouraged after the 7th District committee nominated Jack Trammell to be the Democratic candidate for the seat last Sunday. We now feel we at least have a fair chance at winning it. (By the way, Jack Trammell is a professor at the same small college as Brat, Randolph-Macon.) Well, not quite the Democrats of Mickey’s dreams, I guess. 

From another Sullivan reader: Here’s a theory to support your reader who, though a Democrat, voted for Brat: in 2012, roughly 47,000 people voted in the 7th District Republican primary. This time, roughly 65,000. Now let’s assume that of those 18,000 new voters, 16,000 were Democrats voting to axe Cantor, then rework the numbers if they hadn’t voted: Cantor would then have had around 29,000+ votes, and Brat would have had around 20,000+. Which would have worked out to approximately 59% for Cantor, which is where he was at in 2012 and much closer to his internal polling showing him with a lead of 34% among likely REPUBLICAN voters. I’m thinking time will show that Democrats in his district were fed up with him, and decided to do something about it.

19 comments:

Infidel753 said...

Since I read right-wing sites regularly, i can affirm that the territory to the right of Cantor is vast and well-populated. The Republican base considers him a liberal RINO.

As for what to do about illegal aliens, the base is still tearing itself apart over that one (the comment thread here is a good illustration) and will probably keep the party paralyzed on the issue for the foreseeable future.

Annie Of Watertown said...

From UPI:

Immigration protest erupts at Eric Cantor's election rally: Immigration activists stormed Eric Cantor's election rally, rubbing salt in the wound of the House majority leader's stunning primary defeat

...As Cantor left the Richmond hotel where his supporters, who had come expecting a party, stood stunned, immigration activists pushed their way into the ballroom to rub salt in the wound.

"What do we want? Immigration reform!" the shouted, waving an American flag. "When do we want it? Now!"...

Gerry Mander said...

For real- It's more about punishing those who have allowed the country to go down the crapper. So what if a Dem wins? Not much difference IMHO between the Democrat and Cantor so it would be transparent

Ducky's here said...

Looking forward to a food fight for Cantor's position.

They'll have the torches and pitchforks out for Boehner soon.

Shaw Kenawe said...

"Since I read right-wing sites regularly, i can affirm that the territory to the right of Cantor is vast and well-populated." Infidel753

I thought that extreme territory was shrinking and its members dwindling. We'll be watching to see what happens in the November election between the TeaBagger and the Democrat.

Annie of Watertown, I read that too. I guess tackling our immigration problems is something the TeaBaggers are against. Look what they did to Cantor.

Gerry Mander, you think a Democrat and Cantor are alike? And FYI, the country isn't "going down the crapper." That's what the FAUX NOOZ yahoos tell you to think.


Ducky, here I thought Cantor had the long knives out to take over Boehner's job. I wonder who'll take Cantor's place in going after Big Orange?

Les Carpenter said...

Yippee, good times are here again....

Roll em, roll em, roll emmmmm rawhide!

I hear Cruz and staff is ecstatic. Has Palin weighed in yet? Bachmann? Gohmert?

FOX will be analyzing this one for a week. Anybody see Levin on FOX with Hannity last night? A clown show to make Bozo proud.

Time for a beer! Politics go good with beer. Lots of it!

Dave Miller said...

Shaw, one has to wonder if Cantor is not seen as conservative enough for many in the GOP.

Regarding immigration, it is easy to say "We want immigration now!" It is not so easy to define that.

The GOP cannot step up and embrace what their base wants because the base wants deportations and massive deprivation of services.

That is the vice that is gripping the GOP today. They want to be seen as compassionate and understanding. Many in Congress, I believe, want to get this fixed and move on, but the base resists.

The extremists are content to shout, holler and advocate for reform, without thinking realistically about how to implement their desires.

How should we round up 11 million people? Should we immediately cut off all aid to these people? Is a permanent undereducated class going to be good for us? How do deal with kids not getting vaccinations? Some might say let them deal with it, but everyone's kids interact with these kids everyday.

The problems here are just so deep, and so layered that solutions are very hard.

If anyone knows of a solution that a current GOP leader is advocating, I'd like to hear it. Silence is not leadership and we can see from Cantor the result when you speak up.

(O)CT(O)PUS said...

A multiple choice question to explain Cantor's loss:

a. The immigration issue
b. Cantor's undisguised opportunism
c. Crossover Democrats in the GOP primary
d. Power hungry Tea Totalitarians
e. All of the above

In any event, the small tent GOP has just grown smaller ... and a lot more petty.

Shaw Kenawe said...

It appears that anytime any Republican says anything about amnesty, even the common sense Dream Act, the extremists in the GOP place a political death sentence on that pol and do everything they can to kick him or her out of office.

I viewed Cantor as very conservative, but unless you're marching lock-stop with the Tea Party, you're thrown out of the club.

Clearwater, Florida said...

Ooops! Mr. Brat appears to hae lied about going to Princeton:

"The man that the tea party defeated Eric Cantor with lied about having gone to Princeton and sounded like a total idiot while dodging simple policy questions during an interview with MSNBC’s Chuck Todd.

David Brat claims on his campaign website that he attended Princeton, but The Washington Post contacted Princeton, and the Ivy League school has no record of Brat ever attending. Secondly, The Wall Street Journal is reporting that Brat presented a 2005 paper in which he argued that Protestants are the key to economic growth."

Ducky's here said...

Not sure how I feel about this.

On one level you could just sit back, laugh and watch the food fight as politicians who would be handing out samples in a Walmart parking lot in a sane world try to take over the leadership.

Louie Gohmert
Darrell Issa
Paul Ryan

Makes me feel so sorry that Michele Bachmann is hitting the bricks.

Just give us the food fight before the midterms.

On the other hand the House leadership could fall into the hands of politicians who would be handing out samples in a Walmart parking lot in a sane world.

May you live in interesting times.
What we, unfortunately, have to take away from this is that Rethugs aren't going to risk a move against the Teabags.

BB-Idaho said...

Mr. Brat's economic solution? No
minimum wage, let the wage follow productivity up. We have seen how well that works!

Ducky's here said...

Ruh-roh:

"David Brat, the economics professor who defeated House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) Tuesday in a surprise upset, has advocated for a system that "synthesize[s] Christianity and capitalism" and warned that if society doesn't shape up, a Hitler-like figure could rise up."


This guy is strictly cuckoo bananas land. Best hope is that the press keeps him talking.

Shaw Kenawe said...

This is going to be great for the Republican Party!:

David Brat: "Hitler Could 'Happen Again' If We Don't Embrace Christian Capitalism"

BB-Idaho said...

If economy is the 'dismal science', Christian economy' must be the dismal non-science.

Les Carpenter said...

Christian Capitalism? Isn't that a contradiction of terms?

What was it Pope Francis said?

Dave Miller said...

Christian Capitalism... let me just say that there is no way to square any type of capitalism with the Christianity of the Apostle Paul, Jesus and the early church fathers, who never believed in "private property."

Everything was held in common and Paul in 2 Corinthians even advocated income redistribution.

okjimm said...

David Brat???? who would trust a guy named after a sausage?
I am so looking forward to the end of this madness, the idiot fringe.

THE LATEST from the great lakes....Wisconsin...a state Senator, running for congress, tried to introduce a bill equating single parenthood with child abuse.

'SB507 would require the Child Abuse and Neglect Prevention Board to emphasize that non-marital parenthood is a contributing factor to child abuse and neglect.'

as my friend, Sherrif B. Lang says, "You can't make this shit up"

The guy is a flaming Homophobe, believes women get paid less than men because, "Money is more important to men", never married, no children, he still lives with his mother...not that that is all bad, but it is indicative that his life views are not in step with the vast majority of folks.

Nope, Nope, Nope...ain't nothing wrong with a decent, honest, conservative person...but I am sick to death of idiots...who cloak themselves with an aura of fiscal responsibity...but a pure out and out idiots.

shhhhheeeesh....

Anonymous said...

Be careful what you wish for.
Tan Man will be next out.
Who will replace them?
Cantor has endorsed Kevin McCarthy for his job.