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Friday, July 11, 2014

Why the GOP is Losing Young People



This is a follow-up to the post on "The Kids Are All Right, Part III.

Millennials writing in Andrew Sullivan's Daily Dish blog have explained why they are staying away from the GOP in droves and why the GOP fails to appeal to this group. They see themselves as Libertarian/Liberal, and here they are, in their own words, to explain why:



"I totally agree with what your Millennial reader wrote, and I want to add a few points. First, we have grown up in the most diverse America in history. My closest friends don’t look like me, don’t go to the same church, and some don’t even speak English as their first language. We have more contact with immigrants, gays, the disabled, and multicultural families than any generation before us. So when a party tries to bemoan the loss of the “white establishment,” even my white male friends – the supposed members of this establishment – are shocked and alienated. You can’t try to win a demographic and think they won’t notice that you are leaving behind their girlfriends, boyfriends, classmates and coworkers. 

 We are also the most educated generation yet. And while you can try to write off academia as a liberal indoctrination, what is really happening is that the anti-science, anti-evidence, anti-fact machine of the GOP can’t stand up to people who know how to ask the right questions and have the Internet to find the answers. We are not going to take kindly to a party that would pass Medicare and start two wars without paying for any of it, blame the deficit on the next president, and then try to bill itself as the fiscally responsible party. The facts are out there, whether it’s about climate change, birth control, or what you voted for on the House floor last year. 

The Internet only strengthens both of those traits in our generation. O’Reilly can rant about Gangnam Style all he wants. [The above video] is perhaps the best example of how his party has lost a generation of supporters through willful ignorance." 

 Another writes: 

 "I agree wholeheartedly with your reader on some of the big issues, but gay marriage support cannot be understated. Eighty percent of millennial voters know someone personally who is gay. Unsurprisingly, there’s a 20% difference in marriage support amongst those who know someone that is gay. These are our family members, our friends, our co-workers. We not only know them, but we see the love they have in their hearts for their partners. And it’s starting to work on our baby-boomer parents, too. My mother was a lifelong Republican voter. But since 2008, she has become close, personal friends with a gay man. She and her fiance have him and his partner over to dinner just as they would any other couple. In two weeks, they are standing up with her at her wedding. My mom voted for the President this year almost solely on that issue alone. 

You have always written that marriage equality moves forward because it’s virtually normal. That it doesn’t have to be won in court cases or by demanding it. Marriage equality is being won because gays are no longer an enigma being defined by the Christian Right. We know gays and lesbians. We’re friends with gays and lesbians. We share our lunch table at work and our dinner table at home. And more troubling for Republican Party, we’re starting to have our own children. Children that are growing up in households with parents who support marriage equality, who are going to daycare with children of same-sex couples. And to them, it won’t even be virtually normal. It will just be normal."

One more:

"Here is what I learned about politics in my formative years: Under a moderate Democrat president, the economy was doing well and we had budget surpluses, while the Republicans threw fits, shut down the government, and impeached him over bullshit. A Republican won a close election after which he might have been expected to try for a bipartisan approach in the face of a weak mandate, but instead pushed a strident conservative platform that, even before two wars, erased the budget surplus. Republicans got us into a quagmire in Iraq that (no disrespect to you) was obviously a bad idea from the beginning. When another moderate Democrat won election, Republicans engaged in an epic tantrum and behaved like babies for four years, culminating in a disgraceful Presidential field in 2012. 


For the record, I am not a liberal. I would describe myself as a moderate libertarian, and my political idols are Thomas Jefferson, Theodore Roosevelt, and Dwight Eisenhower. What has the Republican party done since 1995 to convince me that it has any positive vision for responsible governance, or any solutions to the problems facing the country and the world? What have they done that measures up to the legacy of our country’s historical leaders? With the sheer audacity of the volte-faces they have made in the last couple decades on every issue, how can they be trusted with any power?"



From Reason.com:
Jul. 10, 2014 

"Millennials Think Government Is Inefficient, Abuses Its Power, and Supports Cronyism 

But young Americans also want government to guarantee health insurance and living wages; plan to vote for Democrats in 2014 and 2016."  



Smart, thoughtful, cogent responses.  

Yes, the kids are most assuredly all right!


Rational Nation USA has a post up on this subject as well.


 And MORE HERE:  


The Secret Language of Millennials

13 comments:

Infidel753 said...

Eighty percent of millennial voters know someone personally who is gay.

The importance of this can't be overstated. The whole right-wing war on gays depends on demonizing them as something alien and menacing. That just doesn't work with those who know a few gay people well.

The same applies for other "demonized" groups of people, of course, as they observe about racism being a tough sell among people who know people of other races.

If anything, Sullivan probably understates the case. He's still a conservative, or considers himself one, though I think very few conservatives accept him as such. So he's likely to over-emphasize the alleged economic conservatism of millennials.

Shaw Kenawe said...

It was not so long ago when Karl Rove mobilized the rightwingers by scaring them with the menace of gay marriages, gay people teaching children and, worse, turning those children gay by association. That brought out the fringies in 2004 and got Dubya re-elected.

Ten years later that political strategy is in shambles. Marriage equality is accepted in 21 states and any politician, except for those running for political office from southern/Bible Belt states, would have no hope of attaining public office by running against marriage equality.

The same will happen vis-a-vis the A.C.A. in years to come.

As you wrote on your blog, the country is most definitely moving in a liberal direction. We may slip back a few steps with ridiculous decisions like the Hobby Lobby one by the SCOTUS but we will move forward in the end, and the Millennials show us why.

Les Carpenter said...

Thanks for the linky love Shaw.

These youngins are an interesting generation.

Anonymous said...

Maybe the crazies in the Republican Party will go the way of the Whigs and the sane Republicans will form the Republican Libertarian Party. Or maybe the Crazy Righties will become the COP? Crazy Old Party?

Jerry Critter said...

The republican party is increasingly becoming a party of old white men, a group that is dying off.

Shaw Kenawe said...

Jerry, the GOP ceded control of the party to a fringe group that thinks they speak for a majority of Americans. The conservative media encourage them to believe this.

The millennials do not share the fringies' ideologies, as this post clearly demonstrates.

The GOP's numbers are not increasing.

Hopelessly Confused Conservative said...

"Obama thinks cynics are turning LIBERALS away from voting? Do you hear that message? Do you SEE how he insults and lies for votes? Do you see how powerful his rhetoric can be to folks who believe him?

After having said all that….I’m speechless. Between him and Pelosi, our poor country hasn’t a chance.

And then there was 'Sue ME? for WHAT, doing my JOB!?' Big toothy smile and big applause from the audience."

Les Carpenter said...

The republican party is increasingly becoming a party of old white men, a group that is dying off

Yeah Jerry, everyone and all groups eventually get old. Like they say everything has a shelf life.

I Rest My Carcass said...


Shaw, the millenniums have discovered that the GOP is full of CRAP!

Les Carpenter said...

As they are young, impressionable, and inquisitive they will discover much more as they mature and assume the responsibilities of raising a family and planning for later when they get old.

okjimm said...

re Jerry C //old white men, a group that is dying off//


aw, stuff....don't hurry me....I still have a few good beers, ah, years, left.

okjimm said...

ya, and while I am at it, RN.."Like they say everything has a shelf life...."


ppppfffffttttt.... I still have a street life...much to young for this 'shelf' stuff...sheesh

Infidel753 said...

they will discover much more as they mature and assume the responsibilities of raising a family and planning for later when they get old.

Yes, they'll get over that small-government nonsense as they realize how vulnerable they can be (and will be when they get old) and how random and unfair life can be, and figure out that it's not only lazy moochers who sometimes need the social safety net.