General John Kelly: "He said that, in his opinion, Mr. Trump met the definition of a fascist, would govern like a dictator if allowed, and had no understanding of the Constitution or the concept of rule of law."
Friday, December 17, 2021
Laurence Tribe:
U.S. District Judge Dabney L. Friedrich ruled last week that a corrupt effort to interrupt counting the electoral votes is a federal crime punishable by 20 years in prison even if no violence was contemplated.
The reality seems to be that the clock is already running out. The GOP most likely will win the House in 2022. That will end the 1/6 commission. Any trials will be be months or years from now.
And any verdict, or decision won't matter.
When you have people saying "I don't care what evidence they show, I believe Trump won the election by millions of votes", what can you do?
When you have candidates for governor in MN for God's sake, the home of Walter Mondale and Hubert Humphrey saying stuff like this, what can we do?
“I do believe there was voter fraud at a massive scale across this country. Can I pinpoint the evidence down and everything? No, absolutely not. I’m not privy to the scheme and the insight of where it happened."
He's seen no evidence! Yet he believes. Here's another...
"I do know that there were dead people that voted, and I know that because some of my patients told me where, when a loved one had died, and they got a ballot in the mail.”
Indicting and prosecuting Trump and his gang of coup plotters for seditious conspiracy in an attempted overthrow of the government is essential to upholding the rule of law and preserving American democracy.
The movement towards the slow, steady,and agonizing disassembly of our democratic republic... Years in the making it was infused with steriod induced delusions by tRump and the party of stupids gleefully attached themselves to his maniacal destructive urges. In effect creating the Anti Reality Pro Delusion Party of America.
The future hangs in the balance. Will America survive is the million dollar question. Think I'll make the safe bet.
If we were a nation of laws how is -H- not being held accountable for paying to have a false dossier produced to combat her opponent. How is hunter not being investigated over his influence pedaling and how is shiff not being investigated for his outright lies. We may be a nation of laws but it all depends on who is in power as to how they are enforced. Rev may be right but I think trump will be held accountable and then a slap on the wrist will be issued.
skudrunner: "If we were a nation of laws how is -H- not being held accountable for paying to have a false dossier produced to combat her opponent. How is hunter not being investigated over his influence pedaling[sic] and how is shiff not being investigated for his outright lies."
skud, If peddling outright lies were a crime, FAUX NOOZ would have been indicted years ago. Also, Trump himself.
What evidence do you have that Adam Schiff lied? You always come here and make accusations without backing any of them up with evidence. Some people would call that in itself a kind of lying.
Anyway, all of what you claim pales in comparison with a POTUS who tried to overthrow his own government and get his own vice president killed. That really happened. Millions of Americans watched it on teevee, and the "Law and Order" Trumpublicans want to sweep it under the rug and pretend it was nothing more than a "tiny bit of rowdiness."
And you may not have known this about the Steele Dossier:
"Steele, a former MI6 operative who opened a private firm, compiled the Trump dossier during the 2016 presidential campaign under contract to the U.S. research firm Fusion GPS.
Fusion had been hired to get information on Trump during the primaries by a Republican media firm, Washington Free Beacon. When Trump became the Republican nominee, the Clinton campaign and the Democratic Party began picking up the tab for the Fusion research. Fusion owner Glenn Simpson hired Steele, a Russia expert, to gather information from his sources in Russia.
Steele’s sources told him the Russian government was working with Trump to try to help him beat Clinton, including providing hacked emails."
RN We'll have to wait to see if the Congressional Committee investigating the Jan. 6 coup attempt brings in the indictments those who planned it deserve.
Skud... your -H- questions along with the Hunter Biden inquiries fall into the same fever swamp as all the Whitewater/Vince Foster/Benghazi stuff. Long on sensationalism and even some tragedy, but to date, no evidence.
Wishing it were true, hoping it were true, believing it was true and theoretically knowing it is true matter not. Without evidence. As a nation of laws, we live in a country where people are presumed innocent until the evidence says otherwise.
Sadly, most of the people who support Trump, and apparently you too, don't believe the above. Because supposedly, it lets all those ppl your gang "knows" are criminals off the hook.
Bad ethics, bad morals, even serial lying for the most part part, are not crimes. They're bad, no doubt, but not crimes.
Just for the record: Roger Stone pleaded the 5th today during his appearance before the Congressional committee investigating the J6 attempted coup.
"“The mob takes the Fifth,” Trump said after Hillary Clinton aides invoked their right against self-incrimination. “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”
“When you have your staff taking the Fifth Amendment, taking the Fifth so they’re not prosecuted, when you have the man that set up the illegal server taking the Fifth, I think it’s disgraceful,” he said.
Steven Beschloss fully understands Trump and his cultists. I read their blogs almost every day. This is so accurate!:
Steven Beschloss:
"The reason Trump wants back in is criminal immunity and the opportunity to pursue retribution against his enemies, real and imagined. If he succeeds? It will be the ultimate indictment of our justice system and a sign of the hostile minority’s hunger for blood."
Cheney had better hurry up her business with the committee. Ten months is a short time in the U.S. Senate. What will stop the committee is a free election, which all signs tell us will be won by the Republicans. There are no brown shirts beating up people in public, or beating up Democratic leaders. All that's needed is the Republican side winning a free and democratic election and the investigation will come to an end and so will the committee. The good old American way, our political system. There has been no talk of treason charges, so obviously the Courts are looking at the Jan. 6th incident as just another violent American riot, which our country is famous for. No need to import nightmares of Nazis. Americans have been more than capable of their own violent riots for centuries without any outside influences, or guidance. An American Senator was beaten to within an inch of his life by another American Senator on the Senate floor. No Nazi influence needed, just good old American hate and violence. Hamilton/Burr had a dual to settle their political hate. Common citizens rose up and lynched blacks with their children cheering them on - no Nazi influence needed. Nazism has only been around for less than 100 years. American bigotry, racism, white supremacy, fascism, and murderous hate has been around since before the beginning of our country. No doubt the Nazi learned their tactics from Americans. As usual, the democratic electoral process will decide what happens as it has for over two centuries now. Good, or bad the people will speak just as they did when they elected this SOB president.
. "No doubt the Nazi learned their tactics from Americans."
They actually did! Hitler looked at the way Americans treated their own people -- African-Americans -- and admired it. In fact, Hitler thought Americans wouldn't mind the way he treated the Jews and other minorities, since America did nothing about the torturing and lynching of their own people. This is historic fact.
"When the Nazis set out to legally disenfranchise and discriminate against Jewish citizens, they weren’t just coming up with ideas out of thin air. They closely studied the laws of another country. According to James Q. Whitman, author of Hitler’s American Model, that country was the United States.
“America in the early 20th century was the leading racist jurisdiction in the world,” says Whitman, who is a professor at Yale Law School. “Nazi lawyers, as a result, were interested in, looked very closely at, [and] were ultimately influenced by American race law.”
In particular, Nazis admired the Jim Crow-era laws that discriminated against Black Americans and segregated them from white Americans, and they debated whether to introduce similar segregation in Germany.
Yet they ultimately decided that it wouldn’t go far enough.
“One of the most striking Nazi views was that Jim Crow was a suitable racist program in the United States because American Blacks were already oppressed and poor,” he says. “But then in Germany, by contrast, where the Jews (as the Nazis imagined it) were rich and powerful, it was necessary to take more severe measures.”
Because of this, Nazis were more interested in how the U.S. had designated Native Americans, Filipinos and other groups as non-citizens even though they lived in the U.S. or its territories. These models influenced the citizenship portion of the Nuremberg Laws, which stripped Jewish Germans of their citizenship and classified them as “nationals.”
But a component of the Jim Crow era that Nazis did think they could translate into Germany were anti-miscegenation laws, which prohibited interracial marriages in 30 of 48 states." --SOURCE
Jerry is correct. "There are no brown shirts beating up people in public, or beating up Democratic leaders."
Of course, nobody made such a claim.
However there ARE racist white nationalist Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, etc who DID beat up Capitol police and threaten Congress. Black Capitol Police officers were repeatedly called "Ni**er". There ARE racist cops who get away with brutalizing Blacks. There ARE racist white nationalist mass murderers. There ARE brutal racists beating and killing minorities.
They're not Nazis, but they are emulating their early methods. They DO share radical white nationalist bigotry. This is our point.
If you think we are equating them to the Holocaust perpetrators or calling them all Nazis, you're not getting the message.
And there ARE American Nazis, and they are ALL Trump supporters. James Alex Fields Jr. is a self-proclaimed admirer of Adolf Hitler. One woman was killed and dozens were injured in his car attack in Charlottesville after American Nazis had a rally there.
Americans, for the most part and especially during our founding and first 150 yeats, were simply waermed over Western Euroean hate and bigotry. Americans simply took hate, greed, and ignorance to new heights.
The Nazis took another lesson from American hate. They learned how America eliminated and exterminated a whole people, the Indians. Indian reservations are similar to concentration camps. What condition is the American Indian in today? Do Indian lives matter? While Germany was putting Jews in concentration camps America was putting American Japanese in concentration camps with the approval of the Supreme Court. I guess it's comforting to say at least we didn't execute those American citizens, but don't kid yourself, those people suffered. American Japanese got reparations. It was easy. We had a complete list of all those interned. Should blacks get reparations? In theory, sure, but it would be impossible to come up with a list of individuals. We didn't treat them like humans. They didn't have names. We destroyed their family units. Affirmative Action is a sort of reparation. Passing laws to ensure their legal rights helps. Government programs aimed to help them helps. Ensuring the have the right to vote helps. Those who claim there is no more racism, are liars. As I have said many times; there are different levels of fascism, hate, bigotry, racism, murder, and as bad as America has been we don't come close to what the Nazis did. The dead were counted in the 10's of millions. But if you need to make the Republicans and Trump sound as evil as possible, then go ahead and call them Hitler, or Nazis, but the similarities don't come close and it's just a device to build hate. In 2000 we called Bush Hitler and claimed his policies were the same as the Nazi policies written in Nuremberg. Which was another sick attempt meant to build hate. So have your fun Dave, but stop lying about what I said and stop calling me a pedophile on other blogs.
How does the terror that rained down from the skys in Vietnam in the form of USA bombs, desroying innocent lives and the environment, square with your BS jerry? Or, how about the attempted genocide of indigenous people on North American shores by Europeans (Americans who conquered the lands of Native Americans).
I could go on jerry. But it would probably be pointless as I'm sure truth is lost on you.
Jerry's heart is in the right place, when he's not emotionally reactive to comparisons between the American radical Right and the rise of Nazis.
I mean, he compared, "Indian reservations are similar to concentration camps"...
Um, Jerry...?
He doesn't know history as well as I do. He vehemently disagreed with one of my points saying, "Your history does not tell the true facts that Hitler and his brown shirts beat, imprisoned, and murdered top government officials and elected German representatives before and after he was given the leadership off Germany."
This was news to me.
After I politely requested evidence of this, more than once, he had no response, and began to show a bit of attitude change towards me. He decided I was lying to him.
"Quote the lie, please" I requested several times. Nothing.
He isn't receptive to hypothetical examples, nuance, or abstract ideas.
He didn't understand that I was saying accusations without evidence is MAGA behavior.
Instead he saw, "Dave says I'm a Trump cultist". This is not the first time I've tried explaining this to him.
He can't seem to accept the difference in definitions between compare and equate.
I specifically said "They're not Nazis", and I'm NOT calling Republicans and their base Hitler and Nazis(unless they are). Jerry reacted with, "then go ahead and call them Hitler, or Nazi".
I really feel sorry for Jerry.
Jerry,
As I've told you, I do not think you are a pedophile. It was a hypothetical point on accusations without evidence.
I don't think you're a Trump cultist. I will swear you are not. My use of the term MAGA was as an adjective to describe accusations without evidence.
Dube, "He doesn't know history as well as I do." You really said that about someone who you have no idea what their qualifications are. It is clear that you are the smartest person on the earth because you have told us.
"Jerry thought he knew more, but couldn't prove it, so he got mad at me." That's not the way it happened at all. It would be nice if you would not post Dave's lies about me, but obviously that's not possible. So much for, "All I ask is that my friends take their arguments elsewhere."
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I'm not feeling bullish on this today.
The reality seems to be that the clock is already running out. The GOP most likely will win the House in 2022. That will end the 1/6 commission. Any trials will be be months or years from now.
And any verdict, or decision won't matter.
When you have people saying "I don't care what evidence they show, I believe Trump won the election by millions of votes", what can you do?
When you have candidates for governor in MN for God's sake, the home of Walter Mondale and Hubert Humphrey saying stuff like this, what can we do?
“I do believe there was voter fraud at a massive scale across this country. Can I pinpoint the evidence down and everything? No, absolutely not. I’m not privy to the scheme and the insight of where it happened."
He's seen no evidence! Yet he believes. Here's another...
"I do know that there were dead people that voted, and I know that because some of my patients told me where, when a loved one had died, and they got a ballot in the mail.”
Someone told me. And yet, there is no evidence.
White nationalist enemies of democracy and equality all share a common authoritarian bigotry.
They are just as fascistic as German Nazis were before they took power.
When Putsch comes to shove, there is no denying this fact. Trumpists are emulating Nazis before they took power in Germany.
Dave Dubya and Dave Miller
We're either a nation of laws or we're not.
Indicting and prosecuting Trump and his gang of coup plotters for seditious conspiracy in an attempted overthrow of the government is essential to upholding the rule of law and preserving American democracy.
The movement towards the slow, steady,and agonizing disassembly of our democratic republic... Years in the making it was infused with steriod induced delusions by tRump and the party of stupids gleefully attached themselves to his maniacal destructive urges. In effect creating the Anti Reality Pro Delusion Party of America.
The future hangs in the balance. Will America survive is the million dollar question. Think I'll make the safe bet.
If we were a nation of laws how is -H- not being held accountable for paying to have a false dossier produced to combat her opponent. How is hunter not being investigated over his influence pedaling and how is shiff not being investigated for his outright lies. We may be a nation of laws but it all depends on who is in power as to how they are enforced. Rev may be right but I think trump will be held accountable and then a slap on the wrist will be issued.
skudrunner: "If we were a nation of laws how is -H- not being held accountable for paying to have a false dossier produced to combat her opponent. How is hunter not being investigated over his influence pedaling[sic] and how is shiff not being investigated for his outright lies."
skud, If peddling outright lies were a crime, FAUX NOOZ would have been indicted years ago. Also, Trump himself.
What evidence do you have that Adam Schiff lied? You always come here and make accusations without backing any of them up with evidence. Some people would call that in itself a kind of lying.
Anyway, all of what you claim pales in comparison with a POTUS who tried to overthrow his own government and get his own vice president killed. That really happened. Millions of Americans watched it on teevee, and the "Law and Order" Trumpublicans want to sweep it under the rug and pretend it was nothing more than a "tiny bit of rowdiness."
And you may not have known this about the Steele Dossier:
"Steele, a former MI6 operative who opened a private firm, compiled the Trump dossier during the 2016 presidential campaign under contract to the U.S. research firm Fusion GPS.
Fusion had been hired to get information on Trump during the primaries by a Republican media firm, Washington Free Beacon. When Trump became the Republican nominee, the Clinton campaign and the Democratic Party began picking up the tab for the Fusion research. Fusion owner Glenn Simpson hired Steele, a Russia expert, to gather information from his sources in Russia.
Steele’s sources told him the Russian government was working with Trump to try to help him beat Clinton, including providing hacked emails."
RN We'll have to wait to see if the Congressional Committee investigating the Jan. 6 coup attempt brings in the indictments those who planned it deserve.
god skud, you're tediuoly smusing. As always.
Skud... your -H- questions along with the Hunter Biden inquiries fall into the same fever swamp as all the Whitewater/Vince Foster/Benghazi stuff. Long on sensationalism and even some tragedy, but to date, no evidence.
Wishing it were true, hoping it were true, believing it was true and theoretically knowing it is true matter not. Without evidence. As a nation of laws, we live in a country where people are presumed innocent until the evidence says otherwise.
Sadly, most of the people who support Trump, and apparently you too, don't believe the above. Because supposedly, it lets all those ppl your gang "knows" are criminals off the hook.
Bad ethics, bad morals, even serial lying for the most part part, are not crimes. They're bad, no doubt, but not crimes.
Why is that so hard for some ppl to get?
Just for the record: Roger Stone pleaded the 5th today during his appearance before the Congressional committee investigating the J6 attempted coup.
"“The mob takes the Fifth,” Trump said after Hillary Clinton aides invoked their right against self-incrimination. “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”
“When you have your staff taking the Fifth Amendment, taking the Fifth so they’re not prosecuted, when you have the man that set up the illegal server taking the Fifth, I think it’s disgraceful,” he said.
Mobsters know how mobsters operate!
Steven Beschloss fully understands Trump and his cultists. I read their blogs almost every day. This is so accurate!:
Steven Beschloss:
"The reason Trump wants back in is criminal immunity and the opportunity to pursue retribution against his enemies, real and imagined. If he succeeds? It will be the ultimate indictment of our justice system and a sign of the hostile minority’s hunger for blood."
Cheney had better hurry up her business with the committee. Ten months is a short time in the U.S. Senate. What will stop the committee is a free election, which all signs tell us will be won by the Republicans. There are no brown shirts beating up people in public, or beating up Democratic leaders. All that's needed is the Republican side winning a free and democratic election and the investigation will come to an end and so will the committee. The good old American way, our political system.
There has been no talk of treason charges, so obviously the Courts are looking at the Jan. 6th incident as just another violent American riot, which our country is famous for. No need to import nightmares of Nazis. Americans have been more than capable of their own violent riots for centuries without any outside influences, or guidance. An American Senator was beaten to within an inch of his life by another American Senator on the Senate floor. No Nazi influence needed, just good old American hate and violence. Hamilton/Burr had a dual to settle their political hate. Common citizens rose up and lynched blacks with their children cheering them on - no Nazi influence needed. Nazism has only been around for less than 100 years. American bigotry, racism, white supremacy, fascism, and murderous hate has been around since before the beginning of our country. No doubt the Nazi learned their tactics from Americans.
As usual, the democratic electoral process will decide what happens as it has for over two centuries now. Good, or bad the people will speak just as they did when they elected this SOB president.
. "No doubt the Nazi learned their tactics from Americans."
They actually did! Hitler looked at the way Americans treated their own people -- African-Americans -- and admired it. In fact, Hitler thought Americans wouldn't mind the way he treated the Jews and other minorities, since America did nothing about the torturing and lynching of their own people. This is historic fact.
"When the Nazis set out to legally disenfranchise and discriminate against Jewish citizens, they weren’t just coming up with ideas out of thin air. They closely studied the laws of another country. According to James Q. Whitman, author of Hitler’s American Model, that country was the United States.
“America in the early 20th century was the leading racist jurisdiction in the world,” says Whitman, who is a professor at Yale Law School. “Nazi lawyers, as a result, were interested in, looked very closely at, [and] were ultimately influenced by American race law.”
In particular, Nazis admired the Jim Crow-era laws that discriminated against Black Americans and segregated them from white Americans, and they debated whether to introduce similar segregation in Germany.
Yet they ultimately decided that it wouldn’t go far enough.
“One of the most striking Nazi views was that Jim Crow was a suitable racist program in the United States because American Blacks were already oppressed and poor,” he says. “But then in Germany, by contrast, where the Jews (as the Nazis imagined it) were rich and powerful, it was necessary to take more severe measures.”
Because of this, Nazis were more interested in how the U.S. had designated Native Americans, Filipinos and other groups as non-citizens even though they lived in the U.S. or its territories. These models influenced the citizenship portion of the Nuremberg Laws, which stripped Jewish Germans of their citizenship and classified them as “nationals.”
But a component of the Jim Crow era that Nazis did think they could translate into Germany were anti-miscegenation laws, which prohibited interracial marriages in 30 of 48 states." --SOURCE
Jerry is correct. "There are no brown shirts beating up people in public, or beating up Democratic leaders."
Of course, nobody made such a claim.
However there ARE racist white nationalist Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, etc who DID beat up Capitol police and threaten Congress. Black Capitol Police officers were repeatedly called "Ni**er". There ARE racist cops who get away with brutalizing Blacks. There ARE racist white nationalist mass murderers. There ARE brutal racists beating and killing minorities.
They're not Nazis, but they are emulating their early methods. They DO share radical white nationalist bigotry. This is our point.
If you think we are equating them to the Holocaust perpetrators or calling them all Nazis, you're not getting the message.
And there ARE American Nazis, and they are ALL Trump supporters. James Alex Fields Jr. is a self-proclaimed admirer of Adolf Hitler. One woman was killed and dozens were injured in his car attack in Charlottesville after American Nazis had a rally there.
The color of his shirt doesn't matter.
Bad ethics, bad morals, and serial lying are, in fact, crimes against truth. Those who practice such are intentionally denying reality.
Americans, for the most part and especially during our founding and first 150 yeats, were simply waermed over Western Euroean hate and bigotry. Americans simply took hate, greed, and ignorance to new heights.
The Nazis took another lesson from American hate. They learned how America eliminated and exterminated a whole people, the Indians. Indian reservations are similar to concentration camps. What condition is the American Indian in today? Do Indian lives matter?
While Germany was putting Jews in concentration camps America was putting American Japanese in concentration camps with the approval of the Supreme Court. I guess it's comforting to say at least we didn't execute those American citizens, but don't kid yourself, those people suffered. American Japanese got reparations. It was easy. We had a complete list of all those interned.
Should blacks get reparations? In theory, sure, but it would be impossible to come up with a list of individuals. We didn't treat them like humans. They didn't have names. We destroyed their family units. Affirmative Action is a sort of reparation. Passing laws to ensure their legal rights helps. Government programs aimed to help them helps. Ensuring the have the right to vote helps. Those who claim there is no more racism, are liars.
As I have said many times; there are different levels of fascism, hate, bigotry, racism, murder, and as bad as America has been we don't come close to what the Nazis did. The dead were counted in the 10's of millions. But if you need to make the Republicans and Trump sound as evil as possible, then go ahead and call them Hitler, or Nazis, but the similarities don't come close and it's just a device to build hate.
In 2000 we called Bush Hitler and claimed his policies were the same as the Nazi policies written in Nuremberg. Which was another sick attempt meant to build hate.
So have your fun Dave, but stop lying about what I said and stop calling me a pedophile on other blogs.
Jerry,
Can you provide a quote of mine to support your accusation?
Didn't think so.
Very MAGA of you.
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Blogger Dave Dubya said...
Note that Jerry did NOT deny being a pedophile.
I report, you decide.
YOUR game, sport. Two can play.
5:24 PM
Blogger Jerry said...
Now Dave is calling me a pedophile. You really are a sick, lying bastard Dave and thanks for proving it.
5:04 PM
Blogger Dave Dubya said...
Using the identical "evidence", or lack thereof, presented by my accusers, I can say, "Jerry and Vern are partners in a pedophile ring".
Gee, how could we ever know they are not pedophiles?
Better play it safe and assume they are partners in a pedophile ring.
See? I can play your game.
3:55 PM
Dave also says I'm a Trump cultist. Anyone reading my comments here knows that's a lie. Pedophile, that's as sick as it gets Dave. Enjoy your hate.
How does the terror that rained down from the skys in Vietnam in the form of USA bombs, desroying innocent lives and the environment, square with your BS jerry? Or, how about the attempted genocide of indigenous people on North American shores by Europeans (Americans who conquered the lands of Native Americans).
I could go on jerry. But it would probably be pointless as I'm sure truth is lost on you.
What are you talking about RN. I specifically mentioned the terrors of the USA. What truth did I miss Mr. Buddha?
Reread my comment RN you obviously misunderstood.
Jerry's heart is in the right place, when he's not emotionally reactive to comparisons between the American radical Right and the rise of Nazis.
I mean, he compared, "Indian reservations are similar to concentration camps"...
Um, Jerry...?
He doesn't know history as well as I do. He vehemently disagreed with one of my points saying, "Your history does not tell the true facts that Hitler and his brown shirts beat, imprisoned, and murdered top government officials and elected German representatives before and after he was given the leadership off Germany."
This was news to me.
After I politely requested evidence of this, more than once, he had no response, and began to show a bit of attitude change towards me. He decided I was lying to him.
"Quote the lie, please" I requested several times. Nothing.
He isn't receptive to hypothetical examples, nuance, or abstract ideas.
He didn't understand that I was saying accusations without evidence is MAGA behavior.
Instead he saw, "Dave says I'm a Trump cultist". This is not the first time I've tried explaining this to him.
He can't seem to accept the difference in definitions between compare and equate.
I specifically said "They're not Nazis", and I'm NOT calling Republicans and their base Hitler and Nazis(unless they are). Jerry reacted with, "then go ahead and call them Hitler, or Nazi".
I really feel sorry for Jerry.
Jerry,
As I've told you, I do not think you are a pedophile. It was a hypothetical point on accusations without evidence.
I don't think you're a Trump cultist. I will swear you are not. My use of the term MAGA was as an adjective to describe accusations without evidence.
Can we cut the drama, Jerry?
Let it go, Jerry.
Please.
All I ask is that my friends take their arguments elsewhere.
I'm busy this Christmas week with my family visiting from France. I have only limited time to respond to comments.
I hate to see friends at each other's throats.
Dube, "He doesn't know history as well as I do." You really said that about someone who you have no idea what their qualifications are. It is clear that you are the smartest person on the earth because you have told us.
Skuddy,
Did I really tell you I was the "smartest person on the earth"? No.
Did you comprehend the context I explained? Obviously not.
This is the same hostile misrepresentation of my words that trolls and haters employ. Your "qualifications" are quite clear.
We know people by what they say.
Your deliberate false misrepresentation about me tells us more about you than it does about me.
And it doesn't take the "smartest person on the earth" to understand that.
I do know something about history, especially WWII and the rise of the Nazis. Jerry thought he knew more, but couldn't prove it, so he got mad at me.
Did you know this week is the 77th anniversary the siege of Bastogne?
My father-in-law was a veteran of Patton's 3rd Army during the Battle of the Bulge.
I've probably read more books on just WWII than you have of everything else your entire life.
You don't seem to be the curious type.
"Jerry thought he knew more, but couldn't prove it, so he got mad at me."
That's not the way it happened at all.
It would be nice if you would not post Dave's lies about me, but obviously that's not possible. So much for, "All I ask is that my friends take their arguments elsewhere."
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