General John Kelly: "He said that, in his opinion, Mr. Trump met the definition of a fascist, would govern like a dictator if allowed, and had no understanding of the Constitution or the concept of rule of law."
Shaw, how is this type of conjecture any different from the GOP actions questioning the deaths of Vince Foster and Ron Brown?
Perhaps that is your point, that as Dems, we can use the same tactics, but until we have some concrete proof, isn't it better to err on the side of restraint and caution, lest we legitimize the past actions of the GOP?
I'm posting what's in the news. I haven't accused anyone of anything.
We need to go forward with the investigation into what happened in Ohio in the 2004 election.
BTW, Vince Foster wasn't under subpoena when he died by suicide.
You should do some reading on this and then decide if this is something we should care about.
It goes to the very heart of our democracy--the credibility, validity and trust in the electoral process.
Diebold machines can be hacked. Once you read about how eVoting is done, you'll see how easy it is to perpetrate fraud in our elections.
I have to look for the link to a 30-minute interview by Stephen Spoonamore where he lays it out in understandable terms on how this is done.
My friend, Gorden, dismisses Spoonamore. Why? He contributed to Howard Dean. Really. So that makes this guy, who has been in the business for years and has been consulted by major corporations and government, suspect in his expertise?
I and many, many others, think what happened in Ohio in 2004 needs further investigation.
One of the prime persons involved in what may MAY have been voter fraud in Ohio in 2004 is dead after having resisted for months and months being subpoened and deposed.
Connell's attorneys did everything possible to keep him from testifying. But since he was compelled to appear, he did show up on October 31 with three lawyers from the Bush/Cheney '04 team. It was a three-hour hearing, in which Connell said he was too busy for a deposition until after the election.
When Connell showed up in court on Nov. 3, he was placed under oath and questioned about election fraud, "man in the middle" computer manipulation of the vote count, Trojan horse remote control of the tabulation process, and threats from Rove if he didn't take the heat for all such crimes.
Though Connell's attorneys had fought to quash the subpoena, issued after the judge lifted a stay on the case, Connell's options to avoid testimony, or at least jail for avoiding it, came to an end. The attorneys in the case have said that Connell's testimony may well lead to the subpoenaing and under-oath questioning of Karl Rove, who, they say, would be unable to use executive privilege as an excuse to avoid such a subpoena in a civil RICO case.
However, the judge agreed with demands from Connell’s attorney to keep under seal any testimony about threats and intimidation of Connell by others including Karl Rove. This is seen as necessary to protect possible criminal charges against those who may have engaged in obstruction of justice in this case.
Mike Connell was also responsible for setting up the alternate email and communications system for the White House. He was responsible for creating the system that hosted the GWB43.com accounts that Karl Rove and others used. When asked by Congress to provide these emails, the White House said that they were destroyed. But in reality, what Connell is alleged to have done is move these files to other servers after having allegedly scrubbed the files from all “known” Karl Rove accounts.
I think this is an important story. It is unfortunate that the key witness is now dead.
I will continue to follow it and report what I find.
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Shaw, how is this type of conjecture any different from the GOP actions questioning the deaths of Vince Foster and Ron Brown?
Perhaps that is your point, that as Dems, we can use the same tactics, but until we have some concrete proof, isn't it better to err on the side of restraint and caution, lest we legitimize the past actions of the GOP?
I'm posting what's in the news. I haven't accused anyone of anything.
We need to go forward with the investigation into what happened in Ohio in the 2004 election.
BTW, Vince Foster wasn't under subpoena when he died by suicide.
You should do some reading on this and then decide if this is something we should care about.
It goes to the very heart of our democracy--the credibility, validity and trust in the electoral process.
Diebold machines can be hacked. Once you read about how eVoting is done, you'll see how easy it is to perpetrate fraud in our elections.
I have to look for the link to a 30-minute interview by Stephen Spoonamore where he lays it out in understandable terms on how this is done.
My friend, Gorden, dismisses Spoonamore. Why? He contributed to Howard Dean. Really. So that makes this guy, who has been in the business for years and has been consulted by major corporations and government, suspect in his expertise?
Really.
Dave,
I found the link to Stephen Spoonamore's interview. It's long, but very informative.
Click here
shw,
"I'm posting what's in the news. I haven't accused anyone of anything."
that is cop out. this is your blog and what you post is what you think and wish to convey to your readers.
as for that video, that wasn't news, that was opinion passing itself off as a news piece.
Yes,
this is my blog.
I and many, many others, think what happened in Ohio in 2004 needs further investigation.
One of the prime persons involved in what may MAY have been voter fraud in Ohio in 2004 is dead after having resisted for months and months being subpoened and deposed.
Connell's attorneys did everything possible to keep him from testifying. But since he was compelled to appear, he did show up on October 31 with three lawyers from the Bush/Cheney '04 team. It was a three-hour hearing, in which Connell said he was too busy for a deposition until after the election.
When Connell showed up in court on Nov. 3, he was placed under oath and questioned about election fraud, "man in the middle" computer manipulation of the vote count, Trojan horse remote control of the tabulation process, and threats from Rove if he didn't take the heat for all such crimes.
Though Connell's attorneys had fought to quash the subpoena, issued after the judge lifted a stay on the case, Connell's options to avoid testimony, or at least jail for avoiding it, came to an end. The attorneys in the case have said that Connell's testimony may well lead to the subpoenaing and under-oath questioning of Karl Rove, who, they say, would be unable to use executive privilege as an excuse to avoid such a subpoena in a civil RICO case.
However, the judge agreed with demands from Connell’s attorney to keep under seal any testimony about threats and intimidation of Connell by others including Karl Rove. This is seen as necessary to protect possible criminal charges against those who may have engaged in obstruction of justice in this case.
Mike Connell was also responsible for setting up the alternate email and communications system for the White House. He was responsible for creating the system that hosted the GWB43.com accounts that Karl Rove and others used. When asked by Congress to provide these emails, the White House said that they were destroyed. But in reality, what Connell is alleged to have done is move these files to other servers after having allegedly scrubbed the files from all “known” Karl Rove accounts.
I think this is an important story. It is unfortunate that the key witness is now dead.
I will continue to follow it and report what I find.
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