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General John Kelly: "He said that, in his opinion, Mr. Trump met the definition of a fascist, would govern like a dictator if allowed, and had no understanding of the Constitution or the concept of rule of law."

Wednesday, April 9, 2014

A River (of insanity) Runs Through It



"It" meaning the GOP:



"In an interview with the Daily Times Herald, Iowa Republican senate candidate Sam Clovis claimed that President Obama’s race is saving him from impeachment. 

 Clovis said, “I don’t think so, and I’ll tell you why. It’s not that what he has done would not rise to the level where it might be impeachable. I don’t think it’s a practical, pragmatic issue. And simply because I don’t think the nation is ready for it.  You know, within this generation, we went through the impeachment of a president, and it didn’t end well, and now we have a situation where race is thrown into the cards as well. Whether we like it or not, race is an issue.” 

Clovis was asked if Obama was white would he be impeached. He answered, “I wouldn’t say that I think people would.” He was asked if he thought the only reason why Congress isn’t going after impeachment is the color of the president’s skin. 

Clovis answered,”I would say there are people in the House of Representatives right now that would very much like to take the opportunity to start the process. And I think the reason that they’re not is because they’re concerned about the media.”


IOW, Clovis believes those people in the House of Representatives (TeaPublicans) are moral cowards with no convictions.  If they believe Mr. Obama has committed high crimes and misdemeanors, why the hell would they be concerned about the media?  Are they not obligated to protect and preserve the Constitution?  Meanwhile Clovis doesn't name one high crime or misdemeanor the president has committed.  He, like other GOP cowards just like to flap their gums about "impeachment."  

Clovis is nuts, of course, and he's found a very comfortable home in the GOP.

In other news, Louie Gohmert (R-Crazy Town) is still making a fool of himself:

Louie Gohmert Hails Mississippi Anti-Gay Law, Attacks 'Intolerant' Gays 


Earlier this year, Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) endorsed Arizona’s failed “right-to-discriminate” bill for challenging attempts to “establish the religion of secularism.” 

 In reaction to Mississippi’s enactment a similar law, Gohmert yesterday told Washington Watch host and Family Research Council president Tony Perkins — who stood behind Mississippi’s governor at the bill’s signing ceremony — that he is “so proud of Mississippi and what they’ve done.” 

After Mississippi Gov. Phil Bryant came on the show to receive Gohmert’s plaudits, the congressmen called the anti-gay law “a wonderful example of real freedom” and attacked gay rights critics as intolerant: “You’ve seen it first hand, there is nobody more intolerant in this country than those that are screaming for tolerance. 

Christians are not intolerant but whoa, goodness these people that have their leftist agenda that are so intolerant so thanks for having the courage to stand up.”



More GOP insanity here:

Maine Republican Says He’s Qualified To Be A Senator Because Smacking His Wife Around Means He Has Guts (VIDEO)




And Mike Huckabee reaches out to women by insulting and demeaning them:



Mike Huckabee: Men Like to Hunt Together While Women Like To Go To the Bathroom Tgether

41 comments:

Infidel753 said...

I see this as a river of something rather more insanitary than insanity. The items you report here remind me of the overflow from an overloaded sewer system.

Clovis doesn't name one high crime or misdemeanor the president has committed.

They never can, can they?

Maine Republican Says He’s Qualified To Be A Senator Because Smacking His Wife Around Means He Has Guts

It figures they would eventually start taking the "war on women" thing literally. I liked the first comment at that link, though: "By his own standards, kicking him in the nuts will qualify me to be governor."

As for Gohmert, what's the point. He spouts idiocy the way fish swim or manure stinks. It's just what he does. Stand up against those who are intolerant of your right to discriminate against them! If only Orwell were still alive to write about this.

skudrunner said...

The loonies are at it full time. Obama being black has nothing to do with saving him from impeachment. It is the main contributing factor in his being elected, that and the gop had no one to offer, but does not save him from impeachment.

Shaw Kenawe said...

"It [being black] is the main contributing factor in his [Obama's] being elected,.


So tell us skudrunner, where and how you interviewed the millions of Americans who voted for Mr. Obama to discover what you wrote above.

You, cuckoo-cuckoo bananas Michele Bachmann, and disgraced US Rep. from Illinois, Joe Wilson, are in agreement on that little nugget of hate.

So tell us all, skud, were all the previous 43 white men elected because of the content of their character? And if so, the one bi-racial man, who was elected twice, was elected because of the color of his skin?

That you and others who promote that rubbish don't see where it comes from shows me how, as Infidel753 put it, a river of insanitary runs through the GOP.



Shaw Kenawe said...

"You, cuckoo-cuckoo bananas Michele Bachmann, and disgraced US Rep. from Illinois, Joe Wilson, are in agreement on that little nugget of hate."

I forgot to mention Rush Limbaugh agrees with you as well. Also Glen Beck, Ann Coulter, Alan West. All the leading nuts in the GOP.

Good job.

Infidel753 said...

So tell us skudrunner, where and how you interviewed the millions of Americans who voted for Mr. Obama to discover what you wrote above.

Hey, bad question. Basing beliefs on evidence instead of proper histrionics is the bad old approach that leads to concepts like evolution and global warming.

The new Huckabee link doesn't work -- which is too bad, because it looks like a doozy.

Shaw Kenawe said...

Thanks Infidel753. Link fixed.

It is a doozy.

skudrunner said...

It is not hate just fact. I know the leftist mantra that if anyone is against obama it is because they are racist not because he is incompetent.

Fact is, more blacks voted in the 2008 election than ever before and even Samuel L. Jackson admits he voted for Obama based on skin color

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/21/us/politics/21vote.html?_r=0

Don't be so biased you lose sight of the truth.

Infidel753 said...

What an oblivious goofball. Can we get Huckabee a job as speechwriter for the Republican candidates running against our endangered Senators?

I guess it's true that men aren't generally keen on going to the restroom with other men. Unless they're Larry Craig.

okjimm said...

ohohoh.... I KNOW why women go to the bathroom together !!!! It is where they plot world domination ! maybe. Or exchange notes on which menstrual cycle is best for trail biking.
I am sure Huckabee knows.

and Gohmert??? Well, gees, he sounds like a smart guy, just like his cousins, Goober and Gomer.

Seriously, folks. Tolerance is a dangerous thing. Why gosh, if everyone was tolerant who would Jesus be able to save? Gees,let's have some Christian values,for God's sakes! ohohoh....speaking of Christian values...Walmart has a great deal....buy six fish and the bread is free.

Shaw Kenawe said...

skud: "It is not hate just fact. I know the leftist mantra that if anyone is against obama it is because they are racist not because he is incompetent."


That hogwash and you know it. That's the same as claiming all righties think Obama is a Kenyan Commie Fascist and his wife is really a male.

skud: "Fact is, more blacks voted in the 2008 election than ever before and even Samuel L. Jackson admits he voted for Obama based on skin color."

Most folks would see an increase in the number of people voting a good thing, but of course you wouldn't because blahs voted in huge numbers.

The fact is that Obama was also the DEMOCRATIC candidate, and African-Americans support the Democratic Party by almost 98% whether that candidate is black or white.

Samuel L. Jackson? Well, there's one who said it, so that must mean all African-Americans voted for Obama for that reason and not the fact that he is a Democrat!

Let's see, righties voted for Mitt Romney, Mitt Romney is white, therefore righties prefered the white candidates.


OMG! Racism!

Shaw Kenawe said...

Infidel753, Huckabee is the crazy gift that keeps on giving. I love that he's out there saying things like this so everyone can identify him with the TeaPublicans.

Shaw Kenawe said...

okjimm: "Does Wal-Mart also sell miracles? Buy one; get one free?

okjimm said...

Does Walmart sell miracles?

Well, Miracle Whip...little known fact...they cater to the Christian S&M crowd.

(O)CT(O)PUS said...

Scud,
Here is a partial list of Republicans who switched parties to support Barack Obama (source):

Republican elected officials who endorsed Obama
• Former Minnesota Governor Arne Carlson
• Former Rhode Island Senator Lincoln Chafee. Two years later, he was elected Governor of Rhode Island as an Independent - Obama's avowed neutrality in the race was viewed by some, including the Democratic nominee,[26] as a tacit endorsement of Chafee.
• Former Minnesota Senator David Durenberger supported John Kerry in the 2004 election, leaving the Republican Party. He now supports Obama.
• Former Oklahoma Congressman Mickey Edwards voted for Obama; announced one day after the election.
• Former Kansas Congressman, Nixon Administration Deputy Secretary of Defense and United States Permanent Representative to NATO Robert F. Ellsworth
• Former Maryland Congressman Wayne Gilchrest (who was an outgoing incumbent at the time) told WBAL-TV that he voted for Obama in a January interview.
• Former Virginia Governor Linwood Holton, father-in-law of former Governor Tim Kaine (D-VA)
• Former Iowa Congressman Jim Leach
• Former Maryland Senator Charles Mathias, Jr. Mathias was a liberal Republican who was often at odds with the conservative wing of the party as a senator.
• Former South Dakota Senator Larry Pressler
• Former Connecticut Governor and Senator Lowell Weicker. Weicker left the Republican Party in 1988 after a campaign in which prominent Republicans endorsed his opponent, Joe Lieberman. He supported Democrat Bill Bradley in 2000 and Howard Dean in 2004 for the presidency.
• Former Massachusetts Governor William Weld
• Mayor Lou Thieblemont of Camp Hill, Pennsylvania. Thieblemont switched his party registration from Republican to Democrat so that he could vote for Obama in the Pennsylvania primary.
• Fairbanks North Star Borough Mayor Jim Whitaker endorsed Obama and delivered a speech on the second day of the 2008 Democratic National Convention in Denver, Colorado.

(Continued …)

(O)CT(O)PUS said...

(Continued from above)

Other national Republican figures who endorsed Obama
• Ken Adelman, former diplomat, director of the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency, and member of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board
• Wick Allison, former publisher of National Review,
• Jack Antaramian, Florida real estate developer and Bush fundraiser
• William Donaldson, former Chairman of the Securities & Exchange Commission under George W. Bush (2003–05)
• Ken Duberstein, former Reagan chief of staff
• Julie Nixon Eisenhower, daughter of former President Richard Nixon, granddaughter-in law of Dwight D. Eisenhower
• Susan Eisenhower, granddaughter of Dwight D. Eisenhower and president of the Eisenhower Institute.[41][42] After endorsing Obama, Eisenhower announced on August 21, 2008 that she was leaving the Republican Party.
• Susan Ford, daughter of President Gerald R. Ford.
• Charles Fried, former U.S. Solicitor General and former McCain advisor.
• C.C. Goldwater, granddaughter of former Arizona Senator and Republican Presidential candidate Barry Goldwater (endorsing Barack Obama on behalf of herself, her sibling, and some of her cousins)
• Lilibet Hagel, wife of Senator Chuck Hagel (R-NE)
• Rita E. Hauser, former White House intelligence advisor for President George W. Bush
• Actor and former Bush supporter Dennis Hopper voted for Obama, citing his admiration of the Democratic nominee and particularly his dislike of Republican Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin.
• Larry Hunter, Senior Fellow at the Institute for Policy Innovation and Chief Economist for the Free Enterprise Fund, former Reagan policy advisor
• Rear Admiral John Hutson, USN (ret.), former Judge Advocate General of the Navy and the current dean and president of Franklin Pierce Law Center.
• Legal scholar Douglas Kmiec
• Scott McClellan, White House Press Secretary under George W. Bush from 2003–2006. Author of controversial book, What Happened.
• Tricia Mosley, former staffer to Senator Strom Thurmond
• Paul O'Neill, United States Secretary of the Treasury from 2001–02 under George W. Bush
• Colin Powell, former U.S. Secretary of State, U.S. National Security Advisor, and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
• David Ruder, Chairman of the Securities & Exchange Commission under President Ronald Reagan
• Radio Host Michael Smerconish[52] Later switched to Independent.
• Tag Tognalli, former Reagan White House Staff, 1981–1989 and Connecticut McCain Delegate to 2000 Republican National Convention.

Support for Obama from conservative writers
• Andrew Bacevich, Professor of International Relations at Boston University.
• Christopher Buckley, author, son of conservative figure William F. Buckley, Jr.
• Francis Fukuyama, author, key figure in the rise of neoconservatism and loosely affiliated with conservatism.[56] Fukuyama left the neoconservative movement following the Iraq War and supported John Kerry in the 2004 election.
• Jeffrey Hart, senior editor of National Review magazine.
• Dorothy King, archeologist, author, and conservative blogger.
• Scott McConnell, editor of the American Conservative,[60] a magazine associated with Patrick Buchanan. (McConnell had also endorsed John Kerry in 2004.)
• John Patrick Diggins, distinguished professor of history at the Graduate Center of the City University of New York. Writing in the American Conservative, Diggins wrote "I prefer the professor to the warrior."
• Andrew Sullivan, commentator and author of The Conservative Soul, who had also endorsed John Kerry in 2004.

Scud, before you post here in the future, I suggest you hire a ventriloquist to fact check your comments.

Anonymous said...



Obviously, all those Republicans listed above, who voted for Barack Obama, did so only because his father was a Black African.

/sarcasm/

Dave Miller said...

Skud, using your logic, if someone white voted for Romney simply because he was white, can we extrapolate that everyone else voted for him because he was white?

If we see more white people voting for a specific candidate in 2016 than they did in 2012, can we assume it is because he, or she was white?

Did Obama get more votes from the African American community because he was black? More than likely. A huge percentage more? Doubtful as for years, African American voters have not voted for the GOP/Conservative candidate in great numbers.

Anonymous said...

Imopressive list Octo but where do they stand now?

Anonymous said...

agree with skud i that was he big thing they were saying that It was time for a Black President. Of course not a Conservative Black President. Must be a Dem,God Forbid

Shaw Kenawe said...

"Anonymous said...
Imopressive list Octo but where do they stand now?"

On the ground, of course.


"April 9, 2014 at 3:40 PM Delete
Anonymous Anonymous said...
agree with skud i that was he big thing they were saying that It was time for a Black President. Of course not a Conservative Black President. Must be a Dem,God Forbid"

Well, it's this way, Anon@3"40, why didn't the GOP run a black candidate years ago? And why didn't the GOP appoint an RNC black chairman BEFORE Mr. Obama was elected? They made Michael Steele their chairman AFTER Obama became president.

Can you answer those questions?

The GOP certainly had African-American people in their party to choose from. Why did they wait until the Democrats led the way, as they did when the Dems ran a woman for vice president.

The GOP is always playing catch-up, while the Dems lead the country. See: Marriage Equality and Health Care.


Ducky's here said...

So skud, black Americans have a chance to vote for a black candidate nominated by a major party and you don't think they would find Obama an attractive alternative to "Knuckles" McCain and the Pole Dancer?
Does that really surprise you?

I'm also intrigues at the way the fringe right wing throws around this idea of impeachment as if it's a tool to be used whenever there is a sitting president they don't like.
Just another example of their shallowness.

There is going to be a populist reaction to the insanity of the Tea Bagger right. You know it and I know it.
Of course if the right purged itself of the likes of Louie Gohmert and so many others who feel they can get elected on a platform of homophobia alone then it might be different.

skudrunner said...

As expected you get into well he did and so did he and skuds an idiot.

The point is that if there was a white guy running for president who had zero experience in anything except organizing picnics, had served a few months in congress, had never held a job, a cloudy past and iffy friends, would he win. I do think the answer is no.

There were millions of whites who voted for obama but he won because of the minority turnout.

Shaw Kenawe said...

I did not call you an idiot, skud.

Your answer above is absurd, petty, and wrong. It shows that you carry within yourself a seething anger because Obama is president. Your claims that he held no job, and served only a few months in Congress is dishonest, because you don't mention his years as a state senator, or his job at the law office.


Do yourself a favor and look up Abraham Lincoln's qualifications when he became president. Mkay?


Mr. Obama's past is not "cloudy." What the hell do you mean by that? You make these assertions and expect people who are rational to believe you? You make all these assertions and back them up with nothing.

And stating that he won because of minorities is stupid. Minority votes don't win elections. And even if that were true--and it isn't, what the hell is wrong with any minority voting for a candidate they like and that candidate winning? Your bitterness has revealed something very ugly why you dislike Obama.


We get it, skud. You don't like President Obama. But do us a favor and sell your complaints over at your conservative blogs, they eat that crap up like it's chocolate ice cream.

Anonymous said...

You pretty much said it yourself Ms Shaw that the dems led the way ib choosing a black candidate.
The republicans do have African Americans to choose from but maybe they weren't ready for the assault

Shaw Kenawe said...

"You pretty much said it yourself Ms Shaw that the dems led the way ib choosing a black candidate.
The republicans do have African Americans to choose from but maybe they weren't ready for the assault"

Assault? What do you mean by that?

(O)CT(O)PUS said...

Scud: “zero experience in anything except organizing picnics, had served a few months in congress, had never held a job, a cloudy past and iffy friends …

How about Harvard Law School (with top honors), Constitutional Scholar, and the youngest person ever to serve on the Harvard Law Review.

Shaw: “I did not call you an idiot, skud.”

Speaking for myself, I never restate the obvious.

skudrunner said...

Octo

I guess you consider Harvaaad law as experience. What did he publish in the law review.

okjimm said...

'not ready for the assault' ????

sheesh, neither were the peanuts, but they were a salted anyway.

...that was one of the dumbest retorts I have heard in a long time.
"The republicans do have African Americans to choose from but maybe they weren't ready for the assault"

hhhmmmm so they have candydates, but they are???? not ready??? for....what assault???? The one that the Radical Right has thrown at Obama????

...but they did have Herman Cain...and THEY decided, the Republican Party, that HE was not ready....for much of anything.

gees...I'm going to a salt some popcorn and have a beer.

Shaw Kenawe said...

What did he [Obama] publish?

You obviously aren't aware that not all editors publish. But here's some information you are too lazy to research. However, you are very eager to parrot TeaPublican talking points that, in this case, are ludicrous and shows a lack of understanding about law review editors:

"In Obama's time, as it is today, the Harvard Law Review was one of the most important and distinguished legal publications in the world. Founded in 1887, it is the rare self-supporting legal publication compiled and edited completely by students, typically those attending their second and third year at the prestigious school.

After winning a spot on the Review, Obama beat out 18 other contenders to become the first African-American president in the then-103-year history of the Review, and his duties included leading discussions and debates to determine what to print from the mountain of submissions from judges, scholars and authors from across the country, supervising the thorough editing of each issue's contents and giving every article what's known as a "P-read" once it was finally considered ready for publication.

Once a piece is set, the president also sends a letter or fax and makes a follow-up phone call to each author. Federal Judge Michael W. McConnell, who was nominated by President Bush and has frequently been mentioned as one of Bush’s potential Supreme Court nominees, recalls receiving one such letter and call in early 1990 for his article “The Origins and Historical Understanding of Free Exercise of Religion.”

McConnell told Politico, “A frequent problem with student editors is that they try to turn an article into something they want it to be. It was striking that Obama didn’t do that. He tried to make it better from my point of view.” McConnell was impressed enough to urge the University of Chicago Law School to seek Obama out as an academic prospect.

Yale professor Vicki Schultz, then an assistant professor at the University of Wisconsin law school, wrote a lengthy article for the June 1990 issue, titled “Telling Stories About Women and Work,” which compared how the courts handled sexual and racial discrimination cases. She was concerned that “some African-American scholars might be offended by the comparison” but says Obama was “incredibly reassuring and smart and nonideological” about the way he approached the piece."


(cont.)

Shaw Kenawe said...

"One thing Obama did not do while with the review was publish any of his own work. Campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt said Obama didn't write any articles for the Review, though his two semesters at the helm did produce a wide range of edited case analyses and unsigned “notes” from Harvard students.

Estrich believes that Obama must have had something published that year, even if his campaign says otherwise. “They probably don’t want [to] have you [reporters] going back” to examine the Review.

(While the Review's contents are protected by U.S. copyright law and aren’t available for free online, Politico is providing all the front covers — which include each issue's table of contents &mdas; and a representative masthead from Obama's term as president.)"


But an article was found:

Exclusive: Obama's lost law review article


skud is trying to imply Mr. Obama is somehow inadequate because he didn't publish during his tenure as Harvard Law Review editor.

It's an uninformed idea, since whether or not one publishes as the head of a law review has no bearing on one's intelligence.

In any event, skud's apersions to case Mr. Obama in an unflattering light ON ANY SUBJECT, continues, while we knock down the silly charges.


Shaw Kenawe said...

In any event, skud's apersions to CAST Mr. Obama

skudrunner said...

So Shaw, the answer is none, correct?

okjimm said...

Skud's claim is that Obama has 'zero experience' which is not only not germane to the conversation topic, but is disengeuous in that Obama was a practicing lawyer for several years at a Chicago law firm, was a senior lecturer at the Univeristy of Chicago Law School lecturing primarily constitutional law, served eight years as a State representative, four years as a US Senator....and Skud knows this or has easy access to the information. That he was editor of the Harvard Law review, in any regard, also counts as experience as anyone who has 'worked' on University publications can attest.

His arguments fall more in line of 'let them refute' his misinformation than as a valid counter point; in essence, a junk point that is moot at best and a blatant lie at worse.

Fuck 'em.

(O)CT(O)PUS said...

Speaking of aspersions, how's your asparagus, scud?

Les Carpenter said...

okjimm said: "hhhmmmm so they have candydates, but they are???? not ready??? for....what assault???? The one that the Radical Right has thrown at Obama????

...but they did have Herman Cain...and THEY decided, the Republican Party, that HE was not ready....for much of anything.

gees...I'm going to a salt some popcorn and have a beer."

Think I'll join ya okjimm, even if it's from afar!

okjimm said...

rn.... ok
http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/64/6108/....

...but you are still a goddam reactionary right winger...and I mean that in the nicest way.
;)... or...if you can get it

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1199/21822/

only need a couple and you wanna vote for a whig...

(O)CT(O)PUS said...

okjimm,
We all know dat southern white boyz, scud the crud, is racist at heart, an' maybe we should juss round us up a posse an' run the rapscallion outa town.

okjimm said...

nah, we can bring 'em to Wisco....the skeeters hold a blood drive every July and are always looking for outa state donors.

Anonymous said...

So OK
You were a supporter of Thomas and Cain or is it a racist thing with you.
Couldn't be that you had different ideas than they did, must be because they are black, right

Shaw Kenawe said...

"Anonymous said...
So OK
You were a supporter of Thomas and Cain or is it a racist thing with you."

The above sentence is unintelligible.


"Couldn't be that you had different ideas than they did, must be because they are black, right."

Unintelligible. Again.

The Prophet Dervish Z Sanders said...

Octo: Speaking of aspersions, how's your asparagus, scud?

Did you catch Holder's retort? LOL!

Youtube video description: Attorney General Eric Holder snuck in a diss against Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) at a congressional hearing... referring to when the conservative member of Congress said that Holder cast "aspersions on my asparagus". Last May's malapropism, in which Gohmert likely used the vegetable instead of the like-sounding "character", became a viral moment.

After an intense back-and-forth with Gohmert at Tuesday's hearing, Holder quipped, "Good luck with your asparagus". Holder was visibly angry after Gohmert said that being held in contempt was "not a big deal" for the attorney general.