Let's not fail to mention the recent article in the NY Times...
If elected, "Donald J. Trump and his allies are planning a sweeping expansion of presidential power over the machinery of government if voters return him to the White House in 2025, reshaping the structure of the executive branch to concentrate far greater authority directly in his hands."
These are the actions of leaders from around the globe, from both the right and left, like Orban, Erdogan, Chavez and Obrador. Those leaders believe that they alone, based on their election, should have the power to bend government to their will, ending independent oversight of politicians and replacing that oversight with strict loyalists.
Here's your link to the entire read. And before anyone says "well, it is the NY Times" you should know that the Trump spokespeople contributed quotes for the article, are not denying it and their supporters are actively saying this "is what we need".
Former President Trump should no longer be seen as an existential threat to the country and our democracy. Rather, he and his followers, in so much as they support the march to power described in this article, must be seen as a clear and present danger to the US.
Jack Smith, if you have the goods, bring the indictments forward. Fani Willis, if you've got the goods, bring the charges forward. We're like Princess Leia in the scrap of memory lodged in R2D2... Help us Jack Smith, you're our only hope...
Dave M. I read that article, and it left me in despair. In despair because my fellow Americans -- 30 to 35% of the voting public -- are okay with putting an authoritarian into power and fundamentally changing American democracy into authoritarian rule -- or worse.
This is the result of ignorance. Too many Americans do not know the history of what happens in countries that place too much power in the hands of bad actors, extremist on the left and right. And Donald Trump IS a bad actor. He knows next to nothing about our democratic republic and our American history. He knows nothing about how government works. All he knows is using power against his perceived enemies.
Trump has openly promised "retribution" to his cultists. He surrounded himself with convicted felons when he was in office, and he'll do the same should he worm his way back into the presidency.
We see the dangers Trump poses to our democracy, but otherwise good folks like skud and the sailors on the Mother Ship pretend it is President Biden who's ruining American.
They are the sort of people who concentrate on the finger instead of what it is pointing to: A disaster.
Shaw... and yet, listening to what is behind a lot of the grievances of this group, I understand what frustrates them.
When you elect a person as president, you expect him or her to be able to get the things done YOU want done. More and more presidents and parties in the US cannot make that happen because others in government frustrate those objectives.
Sometimes it's the judicial branch, other times literally unelected bureaucrats.
How do we address that?
It seems as if the Dem approach is to try and elect better ppl to Congress and better judges. It seems as if the GOP approach is now about someone who will "burn it all down".
When ppl do not believe "winning" an election makes any difference, what can we expect? Obama was elected with an overwhelming mandate. The biggest since Reagan. 10 million votes and 200 electoral votes. Then he won again in 2012. Over 5 million votes and a 120 vote margin in the electoral college.
Trump called a popular vote loss and an 80 vote electoral college win in 2016 a historic mandate. So how should we have interpreted the Obama elections? Or the 6 million person popular vote and 70 vote win in the electoral college for Biden?
Yet neither of those Dem presidents were able to govern with the mandates they had. In fact, Sen McConnell denied Obama even had a mandate.
But the Dems did not storm the capitol, lie to investigators, attempt to steal their way to power. Like in 2000, they regrouped and vowed to work harder and get more votes. In the hopes that then, they'd be able to pass their agendas.
Trump on the other hand has no such moral compass when it comes to elections. He's a liar who cares not one whit for the US outside of his personal power and wealth.
And yet I believe he will get the nomination of his party. A party that used to stand for honor and decency. The 170 struggle for the soul of the GOP, founded in Ripon, Wisconsin as an antislavery party and helmed by Abraham Lincoln, is now complete.
No longer are they waging a Civil War to save the Union. Now they are waging a guerrilla war to destroy and remake our country into anything but the image of Lincoln.
All in fealty to a lying grifter who is simply trying to stay out of prison for the crimes he's committed.
Trump has SEVENTY pending FELONY charges and has just been given a target letter regarding his role in the J6 attempt to steal the election away from Joe Biden, and he is STILL the absolute best candidate the Republican Party can muster!
I try to understand how so many former Republicans (now Trumpublicans) continue to support Trump. I've seen and heard many of Trump's supporters interviewed, and what I take away from listening to them is that they are completely delusional. Object facts do not matter to them because they've lost their ability to tell the difference between reality and fantasy.
Read any of the comments on the Mother Ship. The captain of that vessel is often shocked when information garnered from non-FAUX NOOZ sources gets through to her, and then she's bewildered by what it all means.
The fact that she and her fellow sailors still support Trump after all of his felony charges and more to come and his promise of "retribution" for his enemies if he regains the WH -- all of that is beyond depressing. It is frightening. If Trump is given the levers of power again, our American democracy will be forever changed.
Shaw, et al... just read this, from the Mothership of Denial...
After asking what is fascist about Trump, this definition is posted...
1. [Fascism is] often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation [perhaps MAGA] and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, [sounds like the undenied Trump plan detailed recently in the NY Times] severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition [Like Jan 6??].
2. It is a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control.
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Let's not fail to mention the recent article in the NY Times...
If elected, "Donald J. Trump and his allies are planning a sweeping expansion of presidential power over the machinery of government if voters return him to the White House in 2025, reshaping the structure of the executive branch to concentrate far greater authority directly in his hands."
These are the actions of leaders from around the globe, from both the right and left, like Orban, Erdogan, Chavez and Obrador. Those leaders believe that they alone, based on their election, should have the power to bend government to their will, ending independent oversight of politicians and replacing that oversight with strict loyalists.
Here's your link to the entire read. And before anyone says "well, it is the NY Times" you should know that the Trump spokespeople contributed quotes for the article, are not denying it and their supporters are actively saying this "is what we need".
Former President Trump should no longer be seen as an existential threat to the country and our democracy. Rather, he and his followers, in so much as they support the march to power described in this article, must be seen as a clear and present danger to the US.
Jack Smith, if you have the goods, bring the indictments forward. Fani Willis, if you've got the goods, bring the charges forward. We're like Princess Leia in the scrap of memory lodged in R2D2... Help us Jack Smith, you're our only hope...
It is as if republicans, the trump base anyway, have become brain dead.
I just checked the polls. tRUMP has squeaked ahead in a few polls but Biden is ahead in most of them. I can't believe tRUMP is lying about this! 😆
Dave M. I read that article, and it left me in despair. In despair because my fellow Americans -- 30 to 35% of the voting public -- are okay with putting an authoritarian into power and fundamentally changing American democracy into authoritarian rule -- or worse.
This is the result of ignorance. Too many Americans do not know the history of what happens in countries that place too much power in the hands of bad actors, extremist on the left and right. And Donald Trump IS a bad actor. He knows next to nothing about our democratic republic and our American history. He knows nothing about how government works. All he knows is using power against his perceived enemies.
Trump has openly promised "retribution" to his cultists. He surrounded himself with convicted felons when he was in office, and he'll do the same should he worm his way back into the presidency.
We see the dangers Trump poses to our democracy, but otherwise good folks like skud and the sailors on the Mother Ship pretend it is President Biden who's ruining American.
They are the sort of people who concentrate on the finger instead of what it is pointing to: A disaster.
Shaw... and yet, listening to what is behind a lot of the grievances of this group, I understand what frustrates them.
When you elect a person as president, you expect him or her to be able to get the things done YOU want done. More and more presidents and parties in the US cannot make that happen because others in government frustrate those objectives.
Sometimes it's the judicial branch, other times literally unelected bureaucrats.
How do we address that?
It seems as if the Dem approach is to try and elect better ppl to Congress and better judges. It seems as if the GOP approach is now about someone who will "burn it all down".
When ppl do not believe "winning" an election makes any difference, what can we expect? Obama was elected with an overwhelming mandate. The biggest since Reagan. 10 million votes and 200 electoral votes. Then he won again in 2012. Over 5 million votes and a 120 vote margin in the electoral college.
Trump called a popular vote loss and an 80 vote electoral college win in 2016 a historic mandate. So how should we have interpreted the Obama elections? Or the 6 million person popular vote and 70 vote win in the electoral college for Biden?
Yet neither of those Dem presidents were able to govern with the mandates they had. In fact, Sen McConnell denied Obama even had a mandate.
But the Dems did not storm the capitol, lie to investigators, attempt to steal their way to power. Like in 2000, they regrouped and vowed to work harder and get more votes. In the hopes that then, they'd be able to pass their agendas.
Trump on the other hand has no such moral compass when it comes to elections. He's a liar who cares not one whit for the US outside of his personal power and wealth.
And yet I believe he will get the nomination of his party. A party that used to stand for honor and decency. The 170 struggle for the soul of the GOP, founded in Ripon, Wisconsin as an antislavery party and helmed by Abraham Lincoln, is now complete.
No longer are they waging a Civil War to save the Union. Now they are waging a guerrilla war to destroy and remake our country into anything but the image of Lincoln.
All in fealty to a lying grifter who is simply trying to stay out of prison for the crimes he's committed.
Trump has SEVENTY pending FELONY charges and has just been given a target letter regarding his role in the J6 attempt to steal the election away from Joe Biden, and he is STILL the absolute best candidate the Republican Party can muster!
Dave M., Les, Mike and Anon
I try to understand how so many former Republicans (now Trumpublicans) continue to support Trump. I've seen and heard many of Trump's supporters interviewed, and what I take away from listening to them is that they are completely delusional. Object facts do not matter to them because they've lost their ability to tell the difference between reality and fantasy.
Read any of the comments on the Mother Ship. The captain of that vessel is often shocked when information garnered from non-FAUX NOOZ sources gets through to her, and then she's bewildered by what it all means.
The fact that she and her fellow sailors still support Trump after all of his felony charges and more to come and his promise of "retribution" for his enemies if he regains the WH -- all of that is beyond depressing. It is frightening. If Trump is given the levers of power again, our American democracy will be forever changed.
Shaw, et al... just read this, from the Mothership of Denial...
After asking what is fascist about Trump, this definition is posted...
1. [Fascism is] often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation [perhaps MAGA] and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, [sounds like the undenied Trump plan detailed recently in the NY Times] severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition [Like Jan 6??].
2. It is a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control.
Then La Capitana asks...
"So, TRUMP IS A FASCIST HOW????????"
What can we say?
Obviously the bolded texts are my suggestions...
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