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Sunday, September 6, 2009

TWENTY-SIX LIES ABOUT H/R 3200, Cont.

  This is a continuation of the post I did on the 26 lies, half-truths and clarifications on what is true about the H/R 3200.  The post was interrupted by other posts on the madness of some Americans who determined through the help of radio and teevee demagogues that President Obama's talk to America's school children would somehow be subversive.

Claim: Page 91: Government mandates linguistic infrastructure for services; translation: illegal aliens
Misleading. It’s true that page 91 says that insurance companies selling plans through the new exchange “shall provide for culturally and linguistically appropriate communication and health services.” The author’s “translation,” however, assumes that anyone speaking a foreign language or from another culture is an illegal immigrant, which is false.
  

Claim: Page 95: The Government will pay ACORN and Americorps to sign up individuals for Government-run Health Care plan.
False: This page is the start of “SEC. 205. OUTREACH AND ENROLLMENT OF EXCHANGE-ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUALS AND EMPLOYERS IN EXCHANGE-PARTICIPATING HEALTH BENEFITS PLAN.” It says a newly established Health Choices Commissioner “shall conduct outreach activities” to get people covered by private or government health insurance plans. The section says on page 97 that the Commissioner “may work with other appropriate entities to facilitate … provision of information.” But there is no authorization anywhere in the entire section for the Commissioner to pay money to any group to engage in outreach. 



Claim: Page 102: Those eligible for Medicaid will be automatically enrolled: you have no choice in the matter.
Partly true. Page 102 says certain Medicaid-eligible persons will be “automatically enrolled” in Medicaid (which is the state-federal program to provide insurance to low-income workers and families) IF they are not already covered by private insurance. That would happen only if they had “not elected to enroll” in one of the private plans offered through the new insurance exchanges, however. So on paper at least, they would have a choice. Also, it’s estimated that one in four persons who lacks health insurance is already eligible for Medicaid or its offshoot, the state Children’s Health Insurance Program, but simply haven’t signed up or been enrolled by their parents. 


Claim: Page 124: No company can sue the government for price-fixing. No “judicial review” is permitted against the government monopoly. Put simply, private insurers will be crushed.
Half true. It’s true that page 124 forbids any review by the courts of rates the government would pay to doctors and hospitals under the new “public option” insurance plan. But there’s no mention of “price fixing” in the bill; that’s the e-mail author’s phrase. It also remains to be seen if the “public option” plan would grow to become a “government monopoly,” as the author predicts. 


Claim: Page 127: The AMA sold doctors out: the government will set wages.
Misleading. Nothing in the bill would “set wages” for doctors in general. Page 127 says the government would ask doctors to accept below-market rates set by the government for their patients who are covered by a new “public health insurance option,” just as they now are asked to do so for patients covered by Medicare. Physicians would still be free to charge what they wish for other patients, and free not to accept patients covered by the new program just as they are now free to refuse Medicare patients. That’s not a choice many doctors make, however, so as a practical matter the government would be setting rates (not “wages”) for many patients. On the other hand, the new “public” plan is aimed mainly at covering people who have no insurance now and can afford to pay doctors little if anything. 



Claim: Page 145: An employer MUST auto-enroll employees into the government-run public plan. No alternatives.
False. It’s true that employers would be required to sign up their workers for coverage automatically, but it doesn’t have to be the “public plan.” It would be the employer-offered plan “with the lowest applicable employee premium” (pages 147- 148). This would only be the "public option" if the employer was eligible to buy coverage through the Health Insurance Exchange (not likely, at least during the first two years when only small businesses would have access), and the "public option" was the cheapest plan (which would be likely). Furthermore, while the employer isn’t given an alternative, the workers are. They may reject auto-enrollment under an opt-out provision (page 148). 



Claim: Page 146: Employers MUST pay healthcare bills for part-time employees AND their families.
Half true. There’s nothing in this section about part-time employees’ families, but this provision does call for employers to contribute toward part-time employees’ health insurance. The bill says that “for an employee who is not a full-time employee … the amount of the minimum employer contribution” will be a proportion of the minimum contribution for full-time employees. This proportion will depend on the average weekly hours of part-time employees compared with the minimum weekly hours required to be a full-time employee, as specified by the Health Choices Commissioner. (For a point of reference: The minimum contribution for individual plans of full-time employees is not less than 72.5 percent of the premium of the cheapest plan the employer offers.) 


Claim: Page 149: Any employer with a payroll of $400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays an 8% tax on payroll Claim: Page 150: Any employer with a payroll of $250K-400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays a 2 to 6% tax on payroll.
Both Partly True. The bill requires employers either to offer private health insurance coverage or pay a percentage of their payroll expenses to help finance a public plan. The 8 percent payment would indeed apply to employers with payrolls over $400,000 in the previous year, and lesser amounts would apply to smaller firms. Those with payrolls of $250,000 or less would pay nothing. But the penalty isn’t incurred if an employer "does not offer the public option," as the e-mail claims. Rather, it’s a penalty for not offering health insurance to employees. 


Claim: Page 167: Any individual who doesn’t have acceptable health care (according to the government) will be taxed 2.5% of income.
True. This is the mechanism in the bill to enforce the individual mandate requiring everyone to have insurance. A person who doesn’t have insurance that meets minimum benefit standards (or other acceptable coverage, such as a plan that was grandfathered in) would pay a penalty of 2.5 percent of modified adjusted gross income for the year. The total penalty can’t exceed a national average premium for individual coverage, or family coverage if applicable. 


Claim: Page 170: Any NON-RESIDENT alien is exempt from individual taxes (Americans will pay for them).
False. “Non-resident aliens” are generally those who have spent less than 31 days in the U.S. during the year. The claim that “Americans will pay for them” assumes that such visitors would somehow be getting federal benefits that would cost taxpayers money. In any case, they are not “exempt from individual taxes” at all. Under current law, the Internal Revenue Service says: “If you are a nonresident alien, you must file Form 1040NR (PDF) or Form 1040NR-EZ (PDF) if you are engaged in a trade or business in the United States, or have any other U.S. source income on which the tax was not fully paid by the amount withheld.” All that page 170 says is that non-resident aliens who don’t obtain health coverage don’t have to pay an additional 2.5 percent federal tax that would apply to U.S. workers who fail to get coverage, or to immigrants who are working here legally under green cards and who fail to obtain coverage. The tax is spelled out in subsection (a) starting on page 167. 


Claim: Page 195: Officers and employees of Government Health care Bureaucracy will have access to ALL American financial and personal records.
False. This section of the bill discusses “Disclosures To Carry Out Health Insurance Exchange Subsidies.” It says that government employees of the health insurance exchange will have access to federal tax information for purposes of determining eligibility for affordability credits available for low- and moderate-income Americans. In other words, in order to qualify for a government subsidy to purchase health insurance, the government needs to confirm your income. And, no surprise, the government already has access to your federal tax information. The bill also says nothing about “ALL … financial and personal records.” Instead it says “Such return information shall be limited to—(i) taxpayer identity information with respect to such taxpayer, (ii) the filing status of such taxpayer, (iii) the modified adjusted gross income of such taxpayer (as defined in section 59B(e)(5)), (iv) the number of dependents of the taxpayer, (v) such other information as is prescribed by the Secretary by regulation as might indicate whether the taxpayer is eligible for such affordability credits (and the amount thereof).” The bill goes on to limit use of this information “only for the purposes of, and to the extent necessary in, establishing and verifying the appropriate amount of any affordability credit … and providing for the repayment of any such credit which was in excess of such appropriate amount.” 


Claim: Page 203: “The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax.” Yes, it really says that.
Misleading. What this actually says is: “The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax imposed by this chapter for purposes of determining the amount of any credit under this chapter or for purposes of section 55,” which deals with the Alternative Minimum Tax. It would limit the ripple effects of the new taxes the bill would impose on individuals making over $350,000 a year. 


Claim: Page 239: Bill will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors and the poor most affected. Claim: Page 241: Doctors: no matter what specialty you have, you’ll all be paid the same (thanks, AMA!)
Both False. Both of these claims pertain to Section 1121, which updates the physician fee schedule for 2010 for Medicare. It doesn’t "reduce physician services for Medicaid" (which wouldn’t pertain to seniors anyway); instead it modifies a section of the Social Security Act that defines physicians’ services. The section also doesn’t say that doctors will be paid the same “no matter what specialty you have.” Instead it sets up two categories of physician services with different growth rates for fees under those categories. As the Kaiser Family Foundation says of this section of the bill: "Allows the revised formula to be updated by the gross domestic product (GDP) plus 2% for evaluation and management services and GDP plus 1% for all other services." The measure will cost $228.5 billion over 10 years, according to the Congressional Budget Office and Joint Committee on Taxation. 


Claim: Page 253: Government sets value of doctors’ time, their professional judgment, etc.
Misleading. It’s true that page 253 refers to “relative value units” to be used when determining payment rates for doctor’s services, and that such RVUs would weigh factors “such as time, mental effort and professional judgment, technical skill and physical effort, and stress due to risk.” But this is nothing new; the government already uses RVUs when setting rates it will pay under Medicare. For example, the RVUs assigned to a colonoscopy are currently double the RVUs assigned to an intermediate office visit. In fact, page 253 is part of a section (Sec. 1122) that sets up a process for correcting existing but “potentially misvalued” rates. 


Claim: Page 265: Government mandates and controls productivity for private healthcare industries.
Misleading. This claim doesn’t even make sense. How can anyone "mandate” that somebody else be productive, or “control” how productive they are? The author has simply misunderstood what this controversial item would do. In fact, page 265 is the start of a section (Sec. 1131) that is among several designed to slow future growth of Medicare payments to help offset the cost of the bill. It would require that “productivity improvements” be taken into account when setting annual “market basket” updates to Medicare rates for hospital-based services. The hospital industry has estimated this would translate into a 1.3 percent cut next year and a total of $150 billion in reduced payments over 10 years, and is opposed to it. 

19 comments:

Anonymous said...

The people have spoken and they are saying no to socialist indoctrination speeches for our children.
Obama is going to be speaking to half-empty classrooms around the country. Then lets see what news media says or how they spin that!
Obama seems to be stuck on stupid!

Arthurstone said...

Excellent post Shaw. Take the bill apart and it quickly becomes apparent it doesn't lead to the end of America as we know it. Unfortunately.

And, as you can see, the results are immediate.

Some people can't wait to put the gloves on and start swinging.

Ah yes.

A 'people' have 'spoken'. Yet again.

Yawn

Shaw Kenawe said...

MV,

If you can't say something intelligent about H/R 3200, please don't comment here.

You have your own blog where you can enlighten people with your subtle wit and incisive grasp of politics. I suggest you allow the grown-ups to continue their discussions on health care reform.

Thank you, dear.

Throwing Stones said...
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dmarks said...

"It’s true that employers would be required to sign up their workers for coverage automatically"

Won't that work out really swell, as companies that don't offer healthcare plans to employees right now end up forced to cut wages and other benefits for employees in order to comply with this mandate.

Walmart and its employees will be able to weather this change, but this will devastate small on-the-edge-already businesses and their employees.

Ali Baba said...

So now Obama is considering drafting his own health care bill
Obama is just not going to take no for an answer.
Need any more evidence that Obama is way in over his head?

Shaw Kenawe said...

MT,

What has that got to do the subject of this post?

I offer you the same suggestion I gave to MV upthread.

PS. There's absolutely nothing "over his head" in proposing a health plan.

Do a better job in coming up with anti-Obama talking points. That one fell flat.

Alan P. said...

I found this blog by googling health care. Thanks for the information, it is very informative. I'm an Independent who voted for President Obama. I don't have a blog but I do read them.

Good information. Thanks.

JoMala "Truth 101" Kelly said...

If these companies are forced to cut wages and benefits to provide health insurance, how much inwages and benefits were they providing anyway Dmarks? The ones that can afford it but don't because of greed and selfishness should. The ones that can't because their business' don't generate enough income to do so will be helped with the public option.

Your disregard for those that don't have health insurance is troubling Dmarks.

dmarks said...

"Your disregard for those that don't have health insurance is troubling Dmarks."

You know as well as I know that businesses, especially small businesses, are not a vast untapped reserve of wealth, and all Uncle Sam has to do is smile their way, and they will shower the wealth on the employees.

The money has to come from somewhere. Small businesses are not in the "business" if just giving it away. If some company is paying an employee $28,000 a year, and the government forces the company to pay for a health insurance plan for that employee, the company is most likely to take the money to pay for it out of the $28,000 a year for that employee.

This is a bullying aspect of the bill in which the employees lose out. They lose ability to use this money in their own interest.

Your disregard for the budgeting needs and choices of families is troubling. Shouldn't the employees have the choice of what to do with all of the money they earn? Maybe they'd rather spend that on college, or other things than the company's health care plan.

Page 167 is far worse. In it, the federal government punishes famlies for making what it considers to be the "wrong" budget choices. This is where the worst aspect of HR 3200 comes out. Here, the bill beats up on families (often low income working families).

The "punish families" provision in page 167 is to me the worst aspect of this bad bill. The crafters of the bill not only have to go after the insurance giants, they also target working families for punishment.

JoMala "Truth 101" Kelly said...

"Your disregard for the budgeting needs and choices of families is troubling. Shouldn't the employees have the choice of what to do with all of the money they earn? Maybe they'd rather spend that on college, or other things than the company's health care plan."


So it's okay with you Dmarks for these people to accept free government aid for health care but not help pay into a health care system because the "government told them to."


Be consistent Dmarks. As President Bush kind of said "You're either for government health insurance or against it."

TAO said...

I say that we stop the one payer socialized health care of systems of medicad, medicare, and VA Benefits. We stop the tax breaks given to reseach and development, we stop funding wars to open up and protect vital resources that corporations need to make their profits, and on and on it goes...

The government can cease to develop trade agreements for industry...

If government cannot do anything that benefits the individual then they should do nothing to benefit the collective, which is all a corporation is...

Republican corporatism, which is what dmarks supports, even though he will deny it, is alive and well with the folks that he hangs around with...

He HATES the little guy....he finds citizens and democracy disgusting....

CORPORATISM is what dmarks wants, nice orderly capitalist big brother!

Right is Right...

libhom said...

The rightists are really angry because they are against hard work and education. They emulate the lie, cheat, and steal mentality of the banksters and the brokesters.

TAO said...

libhom,

Banksters and Brokesters create jobs....

Banksters and Brokesters also fund lots of brownshirt organizations like the folks at Freedom Watch and Swift Boat Veterans...

We should not tax banksters and brokesters because they are benevolent folks who when given something return the favor by creating jobs....

They are such great plantation masters....

TAO said...

From Right is Right blog:

dmarks said...

Good riddance. "Van the Terrible" Jones proudly proclaimed that he was a member of the worst hate group in human history. A man of exceedingly poor, and dare I say evil judgment.

Stay ever vigilant. Big Brother is still watching.

Oh, yes so we trade tyranncy of the radical minority for big brother...

I am so relieved that Glenn Beck is everwatchful for my self interests...

Way to go dmarks...glad to see that you are sucking up to the reactionary right...

dmarks said...

Truth said: "So it's okay with you Dmarks for these people to accept free government aid for health care but not help pay into a health care system because the "government told them to."

Actually, I am referring to the part of the healthcare bill which has the government clobbering familes (regardless of income) who choose not to receive or buy into the government's plan or any health care plan. This is truly the government smashing the little guy.
Tao: Well, the biggest problem with your scendario is that VA is not a handout. It is a payment to the vets that earned it.

"Republican corporatism, which is what dmarks supports"

Nope. I oppose mythical "corporatism"

Tao: "I am so relieved that Glenn Beck is everwatchful for my self interests. Way to go dmarks...glad to see that you are sucking up to the reactionary right..."

Actually, I dislike "reactionaries" of either side. As for the "way to go", please quote me where I have ever quoted, discussed, or defended Glenn Beck.

Except for one instance, where Beck made a rather well-considered and completely positive statement about the late Ted Kennedy. I quoted him here in one of the tribute posts Shaw made.

Other than that, no Beck. In fact, the Kennedy thing was one of the only two times I have watched him.

You blew it on the whole Beck thing. It is as if you were typing it for some Beck fan and accidentally put my name into it. Big oops on your part.

The material that made me turn strongly against the kook who was the "green czar" was found on Wikipedia and was properly sourced, and did not come from Glenn Beck.

Tao said: "He HATES the little guy..." of me.

And this after I condemned the health care plan primarily because it bashes the little guy.

Gordon Scott said...

Just curious, TAO; what exactly is the definition of the "corporatism" you're suggesting DMarks supports?

Because to everyone else (who knows anything about economics), corporatism is an economic system in which businesses, unions, guilds, farmers and merchants all work together under the firm direction of the government. It is a statist policy of the first degree, terribly inefficient, and costly to consumers.

I've never seen any hint from DMarks that he supports such a policy.

Arthurstone said...

I don't believe dmarks is a corporatist either.

He's a Populist with an over strong regard for 'free-markets' and a taste for the big stick in the realm of foreign policy.

dmarks said...

Hmmm. I normally disdain politicians that are termed "populists".


I don't find my regard for economic liberty to be overstrong. Government is, after all, the "big stick" in the economic realm, and I have no fondness for that except as a last resort.

Just like the "big stick" in foreign policy should be a last resort.