Robert Mueller making a live statement at 11 AM ET
My takeaway from what Mueller said:
The investigation was NOT a "witchhunt." Russian interference to favor Trump against Clinton was real.
The FBI was doing its job.
TRUMP obstructed justice, but we could not charge him under the Constitution.
The process for criminally indicting Trump lies outside the Special Prosecutor's power.
We could never charge the POTUS with a crime because of the law of not indicting a sitting POTUS, but if they could have charged Trump, THEY WOULD HAVE!
Donald J. Trump obstructed justice!
Congress, DO YOUR JOB!
IMPEACH!
Donald Trump says there was no evidence. That's a lie.
Donald Trump is and always has been a liar. A cheat. And a fraud.
I believe Robert Mueller.
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None of this matters to the trumpers. Not even a teeny tiny bit. Truth is a vice to them. Alternative reality and deceitfulness is their stock in trade.
Bring on Articles of Impeachment! If ever there was an appropriatre time it most certainly is NOW
RN, AGREED!
Mueller said that there was systematic and consistent interference in the 2016 election by Russia and that should concern every American. And it does concern many of us, but it has been denied by the POTUS and his cultists. Trump can no longer call the investigation a "witchhunt" or a "hoax." Mr. Mueller stated emphatically that the Russian interference should concern all Americans.
That should include the POTUS, but he has NEVER acknowledged what Russia did. He can't say that again. Mueller is not a pathological liar. Trump is.
Agreed, Pelosi and Nadler MUST begin impeachment proceedings post haste. Trump must be weakened or removed before Nov.2020. We cannot risk him being reelected.
Anon, it is difficult to believe that so many TrumpCultis continue to support this corrupt, anti-American, Communist-dictator-praising fool.
CONGRESS MUST DO ITS JOB! IMPEACH!
I don't care if the Senate does not convict. Trump MUST have the stigma of impeachment forever connected to his corrupt and thugish regime.
Digby:
Mueller spoke today and he said this for a reason:
"First, the opinion explicitly permits the investigation of a sitting president, because it is important to preserve evidence while memories are fresh and documents available. Among other things, that evidence could be used if there were co-conspirators who could be charged now.
And second, the opinion says that the constitution requires a process other than the criminal justice system to formally accuse a sitting president of wrongdoing."
For those of us who have read the report, this has been obvious. (And it's obvious that Bill Barr was blatantly lying about that) But if you haven't gotten around to it and have been listening to the commentary, this is what Bill Barr and the White House have been trying to cover up.
What a sleazy person Muller is. He had to leave his parting shot to cover his own series of bad deeds. Look over here at the shiny ball, not at what I’ve done in the past. He’s up to his eyeballs in this mess and this is his way of muddying up the results. Now he goes and hides, what a punk.
From Mueller, a Bronze Star Medal of Valor recipient. Literally, an American hero. A member of the GOP, former head of the FBI...
"As alleged by the grand jury in an indictment, Russian intelligence officers who were part of the Russian military launched a concerted attack on our political system. The indictment alleges that they used sophisticated cyber techniques to hack into computers and networks used by the Clinton campaign. They stole private information and then released that information through fake online identities, and through the organization WikiLeaks. The releases were designed and timed to interfere with our election and to damage a presidential candidate.
And at the same time, as the grand jury alleged in a separate indictment, a private Russian entity engaged in a social media operation where Russian citizens posed as Americans in order to influence an election."
The only question we need to ask the Trump Admin, indeed the President, in light of Mueller's statement is this... Did Russia, or their agents, attempt to influence or attack our election and political systems during the 2016 Presidential campaign?
Now we all know what the answer is, of course they did. To which I would ask Skud, Silver and the rest of the GOP partisans, whether they believe, in light of that, an investigation was warranted.
Folks like "TS" have lots of attacks, but little evidence to back up their spurious claims.
I long for the days when the GOP honored war dead, POW captives and American War heroes. Sadly, those days seem to have passed. Along with their belief that when they trumpet "law and order" it should apply to all parties, not just those they with whom they disagree.
Dave, It's astounding that Trump Goopers would trash a Republican military hero like Mueller, a man with an impeccable reputation and an innate sence o fairness and decency and not a drop of self-aggrandizement in his body. The TrumpCultists (see above your comment) demonize Mueller and defend Trump who is a liar, a cheat, and a fraud. And if that isn't bad enough -- being a liar, cheat, and fraud -- he sided with a Communist dictator (whose regime brutally killed an American student) and insulted and name-called an American statesman while overseas and during Memorial Day. I mean it's stunning to recount how excruciatingly awful a human being Trump is and to think that those people you name, whom we've communicated with on blogs over the years and have had differences with, those people defend the collosolly wretched wreck of a human being, Trump.
You and I know that if President Obama did one one-hundreth of what Trump has done since his inauguration (and before!), the people you named would have screamed bloody hell. In fact, to this day, they ignore the lawlessness of Trump and continue to denigrate President Obama and Hillary Clinton.
Cultists are always blind to their gurus' faults and lawlessness. I'm sad and shocked at their willingness to debase themselves by their continued support of this indecent human being.
"sense of fairness" "colossally" NOT "collosolly"
bad typing!
Shaw... we need look further than the record...
It was Republicans who argued in the 90's that a person of low moral character was unqualified to be president. Now that's not true. I wonder why?
It was the GOP who argued that a president shouldn't expect to get a SCOTUS nominee confirmed in the last year of a presidency, as it's better to leave it to the voters. Of course now Mitch has backtracked on that.
It has, since the Nixon Admin, been republicans who were seen as, and argued for, the law and order state. Until the law caught their people. Now they don't support that.
Just look at these idiotic comments...
The Democrats are just DYING to reprise their 1970’s Watergate heroics. It’s just a shame that this time there’s no underlying crime to cover up….
Where would the Watergate investigators have gotten, but for the Watergate Break in?
How can you even reason with this logic? Where would the Watergate Investigators have gotten without the break in?
Yes, that's a real question from a typical right winger. Without the break in, there would have been no investigation, no impeachment, no Nixon resignation, no need for Nixon to and his admin to obstruct justice, no need for dozens of Nixon admin officials and leaders to go to jail.
In the immortal words of Bugs Bunny... what a maroon! What a ta ra ra goon d ay!
Shaw: Trump can no longer call the investigation a "witchhunt" or a "hoax".
Yet he will. According to trumper Minus FJ, "the big reveal" is coming. What will be revealed is the extent of Obama administration crimes. Trials and imprisonment will follow.
Minus: It [the national security state set up by gwb as a result of 9-11] will be [over] when the big reveal happens, and all your Obama friends get locked up. (5/27/2019 at 1:33pm).
Here is another funny one concerning Mueller testifying before Congress (which he said during his statement that he does not want to do)...
Minus: Once Mueller perjures himself before Congress in the next few weeks, the "Big Ugly" can start, and idiots like Gerry Nadler can look forward to losing their seats in Congress and doing something more suitable to their talents, like running a bagel shop. (4/21/2019 at 9:49am).
Nothing Trump does or says astounds me anymore. Same with the Trump cultists like Trump Supporter above.
Do 30-40 percent of Americans (die hard trumpers) have reading comprehension issues? I'm beginning to believe such is the case.
Dervish Does anyone truly take people like the crackpot you quoted seriously?
Those quotes sound like the ravings of a seriously paranoid schizoid. He really believes that Obama and his staff will go off to jail and the scurrilously corrupt and malignant Trump will be the American hero? JHC! That person must be on some serious medications to be so deluded.
The only way to handle people like that is to pat them on their heads and send them to bed with some milk and crackers.
RN People like the one Dervish quoted cannot face reality so they construct an alternate reality to deal with the horrible facts that stare them in their twisted little minds. That explains the outrageously paranoid delusions of that Minus character. It's a kind of mental derangement.
Minus is not the most deranged of the bunch, either. According to Mystere (another WYD trumper) Dotard ordered secret military tribunals to try the "traitors". George HW Bush and John McCain were found guilty and executed via lethal injection. That they died from disease and old age was the "cover story". Hillary Clinton will be put on trial soon (among others).
Mystere, who identifies as Christian, believes the "prophet" Mark Taylor (author of "The Trump Prophecies", an actual book you can buy on Amazon). Mark Taylor says God spoke to him and said tRump would be our next president (among other "prophecies"). Mystere also "exposed" my "true name and address". According to this idiot my name is Anthony Sanders and I am a juvenile court judge who works in Waverly TN. I objected when Mystere wrote that Anthony Sanders is a pedophile on his blog - Mystere told me that my court has no jurisdiction over him. Then he warned me I could be disbarred for abusing my office - if I had his blog taken down for slandering Judge Sanders (the real judge, that is. Not me).
Dervish why do you interact with mentally deranged Trumpers?
I like to be informed in regards to what these people are thinking. RN interacts with them as well. He comments on Lisa's blog too. And Minus (and his many sockpuppets) will actually engage. Unlike Franco. Yet RN keeps trying to engage him for some reason.
Dervish, But someone who actually believes President Obama is a crook and is going to jail is without a doubt deranged.
I guess it makes sense to know how they're thinking, but you have more patience than I do. I once engaged with them, but it's just not possible in the age of Trump to deal in good faith with Trumpers. They see him as an angel of God and we see him for the liar, cheat, and fraud that he is.
Trump is so consumed with envy and hatred that he inspired the g-d NAVY! FFS! to shame itself just so Trump's delicate, snowflake fee-fees would not be offended seeing John McCain's name on a US Naval ship. You and I know that had President Obama done such a disgraceful thing those people you and RN engage with would go up in flames in rage over it. Yet they accept the worst behavior imaginable by this disgusting excuse for a human being.
Facts mean nothing to those folks. They prefer an alternate reality.
...someone who actually believes President Obama is a crook and is going to jail is without a doubt deranged.
I agree.
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