[John]Kelly told Trump that there were no such American generals, but the president was determined to test the proposition.
Much of the excerpt focuses on Gen. Mark A. Milley, who served as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the country’s top military official, under Mr. Trump. When the president offered him the job, General Milley told him, “I’ll do whatever you ask me to do.”
But he quickly soured on the president.
The general’s frustration with the president peaked on June 1, 2020, when Black Lives Matter protesters filled Lafayette Square, near the White House. Mr. Trump demanded to send in the military to clear the protesters, but General Milley and other top aides refused.
In response, Mr. Trump shouted, “You are all losers!” according to the excerpt. Turning to Milley, Trump said, ‘Can’t you just shoot them? Just shoot them in the legs or something?’ the authors write."
If the generals were going to tell this story to the press at some point, which they obviously did since it's in this book, it would've been nice to have told it at impeachment, when the country could have been sparred the prospect of Trump running, and winning, again.
'You fucking generals, why can’t you be like the German generals?”' Trump demanded.
'Which generals?' John Kelly asked.
'The German generals in World War II,' Trump said."
Go visit the pro-Trump bloggers and read how they continue to wish Trump were still the POTUS, and hope that he will be POTUS again.
Those bloggers are in thrall to a man who knows nothing about history and whose instincts are those of a Hitler-type dictator, responsible for the deaths of millions of people.
These bloggers still support Trump, even knowing what a debauched and corrupt human being he is. These bloggers and other Americans who continue to support Trump are modern-day America's version of the "Good Germans" who turned a blind eye to the destructive and evil force that is Trump and Trumpism.
This is who the Trump cultists adore:
‘Can’t you just shoot them? Just shoot them in the legs or something?’ -- Trump, on American citizens exercising their free speech rights.
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This is as surprising as getting wet from jumping into a lake. It fits in perfectly with the fascist, authoritarian, cultish BS this ugly old clown exudes from every pore and his cult followers hungrily eat up to fill their vacant heads and hearts. We dodges a bullet when we got a real president again and, unless we're suicidal as a nation, we'll make damn sure this bloated oaf never again holds any power. Justice must happen and that means he must go to prison or frankly, off himself. I really don't care which, at this point.
Rep Swalwell- "Consider this:"
The FBI didn’t broadcast they searched Trump’s home. They didn’t even send agents in FBI jackets. The only reason we know it happened is because TRUMP told us. The FBI didn’t try to embarrass Trump. The guy who publicized it should be the one who shows the warrant
Blogger is acting strange today.
Here's skud's comment from another post:
skudrunner commented on "(Untitled)"
16 hours ago
Ray, What classified information did he take?
I didn't accuse biden of anything but he did state he knew nothing about the raid. Although it is likely he was told he just doesn't remember. If he wasn't told something like this he should have been. There are phones in Delaware so he could have been reached. As to the timeline of the RAID I may have been confused. By the time I saw it on MSDNC it was night, I was out trying to use my EV credit but didn't have any luck.
I'll publish Ray's comment if and when he leaves one here. In the meantime, here are my comments:
skud: "What classified information did he take?"
S.K. We don't know because Trump hasn't shown us the warrant, which he can do anytime he wants. But since he hasn't, we can guess that the classified and top secret docs were illegally in his possession. The FBI wouldn't have made the search unless it was vital to our national security.
skud: "I didn't accuse biden of anything but he did state he knew nothing about the raid. Although it is likely he was told he just doesn't remember."
S.K. Just because you accepted the fact that Trump used the DoJ like it was his personal police force, that doesn't mean a law-abiding POTUS, like Biden, would do the same thing. Your cynicism is appalling. You assume all presidents are as corrupt as Trump? They're not. Trump has distorted the Republican mind so much that they believe his criminality is the default behavior for presidents.
skud: "If he wasn't told something like this he should have been."
S.K. WRONG! The DoJ does NOT inform the POTUS of such matters. You've mixed up Trump's shameful behavior regarding the DoJ with the idea that all presidents are corrupt and use the DoJ as their private police force.
skud: "As to the timeline of the RAID I may have been confused. By the time I saw it on MSDNC it was night, I was out trying to use my EV credit but didn't have any luck."
The DoJ, FBI did NOT announce the search by the FBI. It was Donald Trump who did that. He told on himself.
Why did he take those boxes of highly confidential documents with him when he was no longer POTUS, but a private citizen? What was he going to do with them?
FROM NEWSWEEK: "On Monday night, Bloomberg's Justin Sink reported that the Biden White House had not been given any advance notice of the raid.
On Tuesday, White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said that President Joe Biden was not briefed on the FBI search, or aware of it at the time that it occurred, and that no one in the White House "got a head's up" about the plan from federal law enforcement agencies.
"The president and the White House learned about this FBI search from public reports," she said at a press briefing. "We learned just like the American public did yesterday and we did not have advanced notice of this activity."
"President Biden has been very clear from before he was elected president, and throughout his time in office, that the Justice Department conducts its investigations independently," Jean-Pierre added."
I know it's difficult for skud and other Trumpublicans to believe that President Biden would not interfere, as Trump did, with anything to do with the DoJ, but a law-abiding POTUS would act just as President Biden did. Trumpublicans are so used to Trump's corruption and interference in matters having to do with the DoJ, that they believe it is normal and that all president act in the corrupt way that Trump did when he was in the WH>
As things were settling down the idiots in the justice department threw a match and fired it up again. You would think the DNC wants trump to run in 2024 when it looked like it wouldn't happen. It is not that they got a search warrant it is the way it was done. OTG was always concerned not about accomplishing anything but the optics involved and the optics with this suck. FBI agents armed with assault rifles surround the grounds to retrieve some documents the librarian said were there. Did trump do something wrong, probably but the FBI over reacted in a massive way.
It is not a matter that biden didn't interfere it is just that he is kept out of the loop. Of course when he reported zero inflation for July it is no wonder he wouldn't remember being informed about the warrant because it is a need to know and he doesn't need to know.
Clutch those pearls any tighter, Skiddy and you'll end up with nothing but oyster dust. What a load of crack pot whines and lies all rolled into a great big ball of victimhood -- the only thing right wingers are good at, these days.
Do let me know the next time you hear of the FBI (Or any law enforcement o0rganization) wearing Easter frocks and holding hands and skipping across a property looking for violations of the law. What a special little world you wingnuts occupy.
Can someone give a reliable source that the FBI agents were armed with assault rifles and surrounded mar a lardo? 'Cause the only photo I found from a gun nutter article showed a secret service agent with an assault rifle...um that would be TFG's secret service agent, not the FBI. Do people not know the difference?
I know it is hard to believe that Biden did not know this was happening, when TFG used every agency as his own personal hired goons, but that is how this country is supposed to work. You DO know these were highly classified documents he kept in an unlocked storage room???
possumlady and BluebullAmerica
skud never backs up his claims with evidence. He hears rumors on pro-Trump news media and that's good enough for him. The trouble with that is a majority of Trump supporters do that as well. They still believe, with NO evidence, that the 2020 election was stolen from Trump. And they believe it because the most corrupt man to ever hold the presidency says so.
President Biden understands that the POTUS and the DoJ should NOT be mixing it up and that the DoJ is NOT his personal police force. But because Trump used it as such, his followers think Joe Biden would do the same. Trumpers admire a corrupt, law-breaking putz and have no idea how a decent, law-abiding president behaves.
PL, Watch something other than MSDNC. I have not said this shouldn't have been done but the OPTICS just don't look good, as the swell guy would say. It would be nice to see things not just political but that won't happen as long a trump is around and the left owns major media.
Bla ba bla ba bla. Says the con. Optics? LMAO!
Skud... what optics? There weren't even TV cameras there. The only "optics" came from right wing news sources.
Possum... of course no one has a credible source, because it didn't happen!
The real question is why people, in this case, Skud, would pass on the "info" along without checking it, in the classic Trumpian "I heard it said" style.
Either folks like that are smart enough to double check stuff, or willingly pass on unverified info, not caring that in so doing, they are actually hurting our country.
For your info, I don't watch MSNBC or CNN. I watch my local news and PBS Newshour. I scoured the internet and could only come up with an article from some gun nutter magazine that claimed the FBI surrounded Mar a Lardo with assault weapons while providing a photo of a secret service agent with an assault rifle. Again, I ask if you can provide a credible source that shows the FBI with assault weapons surrounding Mar a Lardo, and NOT HIS secret service that usually surround his "compound".
Now we are finding out the documents were possibly classified nuclear documents. Just what, exactly, should the DOJ have done to retrieve these documents when they asked please, pretty please for months and then issued a subpeona weeks ago and TFG ignored it all. As Garland stated, they did not make any public announcement of this. It was all TFG, squealing like a stick pig (and raising even more money from his uneducated followers while playing the big, rich, entitled victim). I agree, as long as TFG is around, he will make EVERYTHING political and people like you buy into it, hook, line, and sinker...
We don't know if the material seized is incriminating. And even though simply taking the materials is against the law the justice department isn't going to charge him with that crime.
possumlady, I cut the cable cord years ago. I, too, watch the PBS News Hour and the BBC and Boston local news for information.
The possibility that the documents included classified nuclear material is stunning!
Every time we think we've heard the worst about Trump, we find out we haven't.
We have to wait to see what that warrant included.
Really Rev, If there weren't TV cameras how did it show up on TV.
Unfortunately we haven't heard the worst about trump but it would be nice if we didn't hear anything about him and he would just go away. The DNC won't let that happen because they are pinning their hopes on hate trump because they have nothing else. I would assume those additional 60 thousand IRS agents hired to go after everyone making over 70K will be democrats so they have those additional votes.
Support the Forward Party fo change or Tulsi Gabbard for honesty and integrity
Ya can't just let a godamn criminal get away with breaking the law skud. Unless you want a lot more criminality. That's how it works. But you know that already, right?
skud, are you well? Do you hear voices, see spots?
I ask because I care and because your replies have been a bit more deranged than usual.
The DNC won't let go of the former guys crimes because he committed felonies by taking documents he had no right to take.
For someone who gets testy when it's pointed out that their talking points sound like they watch all things Fox, you sure are in lock step with the rest of the Fox and GQP fascists. Might want to look to that.
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