Paul Revere by Cyrus Dallin, North End, Boston

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General John Kelly: "He said that, in his opinion, Mr. Trump met the definition of a fascist, would govern like a dictator if allowed, and had no understanding of the Constitution or the concept of rule of law."

Tuesday, June 4, 2024

MAGAs’ Cabal Of Convicts


Donald Trump is a convicted felon who now joins the other convicted felons who served in his administration:



His campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, (Trump pardoned.) 

 His deputy campaign manager, Rick Gates; 

 His personal lawyer, Michael Cohen; 

 His chief strategist, George Papdopoulos; 

 His National Security Adviser, Michael Flynn; 

 His Trade Advisor, Peter Navarro ( currently serving a jail term); 

 His Foreign Policy Adviser, George Nader; 

 His campaign fixer, Roger Stone; 

 the CEO of Trump’s 2016 campaign, Steve Bannon; 

 and his company CFO, Allen Weisselberg. 

 They’re all convicted felons. 

 It’s a cabal of convicts.” 

And the MAGA Republican Party is all in for a Felon-in-Chief, surrounded by convicted felons, to represent America.

41 comments:

Thersites said...

LOL!

When the law becomes woke, the non-woke become outlaws...

Les Carpenter said...

The reason many feel as if they aren't living in reality is because we aren't.

A subject relatively few egotistical westerners are even remotely interested in.

Individualism, Egoism, Materialism, and Greed account in large part for current circumstances.

But of course the beat will continue. Fueled and driven by ignorance, habit, and attachment to impermanent phenomena.

Wisdom, not self interests or wealth is the path and answer to all of our problems.

Isn't it time all of us get to work to that end?

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

sn't it time all of us get to work to that end?

Voluntarily? Or by gunpoint, Les?

Shaw Kenawe said...

Thersites posts memes with photos including Hillary and Dr. Fauci, who’ve never been indicted nor found guilty of anything.

Then there’s Donald Trump’s good friend, the convicted procurer of children for Epstein and a pedo herself, who is in prison for her crimes, and who Trump said he “wished well,” when she was arrested for her disgusting crimes against under age children.

And lastly a photo of Hunter Biden who has not been found guilty of any felon and is the MAGAs’ favorite whipping boy because their hero, the adjudicated sexual assaulter/rapist, tax fraudster, and convicted felon became accountable for the first time in his life for his crimes.

It’s what malcontents do when their heroes are found to be common criminals — deflect, and point their fingers at other people.

How predictable. Yawn.

Shaw Kenawe said...

Les,

Some are more evolved than others, I guess. And some just don’t want to do the work toward enlightenment.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

His other conviction was for paying back his real estate loans. The HORROR!

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Thersites posts memes with photos including Hillary and Dr. Fauci, who’ve never been indicted nor found guilty of anything.

Fauci killed millions of people. He built a deadly virus, and then built a deadly "vaccine". And yet, where's the crime? Where are the "just" prosecutors?

Shaw Kenawe said...

-FJ,

That’s an opinion unsupported by facts.

Shaw Kenawe said...

-FJ, “His other conviction was for paying back his real estate loans. The HORROR!”

Unless you were in the court room during the trial, you don’t know what was presented as evidence.

You apparently don’t like the fact that Trump is facing the consequences for his crimes. And there sure are a LOT of crimes this crook has committed.



Thersites said...

That’s an opinion unsupported by facts.

And there's a reason why that is true as well. For if the facts were to be revealed, the crimes would demand to be punished. And the government can't have that. They can't have their incompetence revealed. THEY are the "subjects supposed to know" and the truth is, they more ignorant than dirt.

BB-Idaho said...

Fauci didn't kill anyone. As an expert in virology and immunology (like my middle daughter)
he gave advice. The alternative, like the Black Plague and the Plague of London, provides natural immunity - unless one is part of the 35-40% fatalities. Why isn't there a law against
ignorance? Hint- too many would be incarcerated. I just took the vaccines, wore the masks
and avoided crowds..and never caught the dang corona virus, a virulent member of the common cold.

skudrunner said...

Falsi denied the virus was from china, supported 6 feet distance without and evidence this would work and evidence to the contrary. He lied throughout his tenure and cost the country billions of dollars and countless jobs. He should be in jail and forget the show hearing.

Les Carpenter said...

That opinion is the plan. It worked for Hitler and the Nazis. Therefore it follows (in the view of neo-Nazi MAGAts) it will work to poison the minds of American society by constant repetition of the lies until folks forget the actual truth and the lies become "truths".

1984 is here in full bloom. Thanks to Trump, MAGA, and the gop.

JoMala "Truth 101" Kelly said...

If Fauci was so bad then why did Trump keep him on the payroll? Cohen worked for Trump around 11 years. Why do the righties? (I think there's only one posting as many here) support a guy that hires people they think are inept or corrupt? Do I have to keep reminding the many faces of FJ that Trump views you all as nothing but useful idiots? Of course the truth doesn't matter to them or him or her, may be a female, I don't know. Some people are saying. Could be transgendered. Trump will look into that maybe.

Shaw Kenawe said...

Skudrunner,

I suggest that you read BB-Idaho’s comment.

Unless you’ve been withholding information from us all these years, you’re not a virologist, nor any sort of expert in infectious diseases.

I’ve always tried to keep quiet and not second guess people who know more than me.

Dr. Fauci did the best he could with the information and knowledge he had about the COVID virus and its variants.

You seem to forget that Trump put Dr. Fauci in charge at the time and did not override his decisions. So, if the buck stops at the POTUS’s desk, your opinions should be directed at the convicted felon, Trump.

You claim Dr. Fauci lied and do not support that and other slurs you’ve thrown at him with any evidence. Therefore, I have to understand that what you wrote is opinion and internet gossip. IOW, not based in facts.

And you know what they say about opinions, don’t you ?

Shaw Kenawe said...

Thersites said... “That’s an opinion unsupported by facts.

And there's a reason why that is true as well. For if the facts were to be revealed, the crimes would demand to be punished. And the government can't have that. They can't have their incompetence revealed. THEY are the "subjects supposed to know" and the truth is, they more ignorant than dirt.”


That’s the trouble with conspiracists like -FJ, JoeCon, and Thersites, they, and only they know the “truth” that the government is hiding from everyone.

Facts are always “hidden” and never are “revealed!”

Because by repeating those unverifiable claims, they can flatter themselves into thinking they have been given “special” and “exclusive” knowledge no one else but they know!

They operate in a world where anything that doesn’t conform to their expectations of how the world should be is automatically some nefarious plot by unseen (hidden) forces to “get them” and those who think like them.

It’s a very, very old human condition.

Les Carpenter said...

-FJ... Since i am neither Trump, MAGA, or a neo-Nazi it is of course voluntary. For those deluded folks who prefer to live by their conditioning, ego desires, and their self interests? Well, i guess they simply remain part of the problem.

Les Carpenter said...

For skudsy,Thersites, and -FJ...

Row row row your boat gently down the stream.

Merrily merrily merrily merrily life is but a dream.


Or as the the great sages have said... let go and let it be as it naturally is.

Shaw Kenawe said...

This is for our friend skud

Ashish K. Jha, MD, MPH:


“There's a lot of nonsense going on about how Tony Fauci "made up" the 6 feet social distancing rule

So a little bit of context here would be helpful

The 6 feet rule came from the CDC, not Dr. Fauci

It was based on the flu model of disease spread -- where droplet transmission largely happens within 6 feet

Flu is largely spread by droplets (little spit that comes out when we speak or cough)

Those usually fall to the ground within 3-6 feet of the infected person

A lot of public health agencies used the flu model in the early days of the COVID pandemic.

That turned out to be wrong -- COVID largely spreads by aerosols not droplets

My critique of public health agencies has not been that they got the initial assessment wrong

It was hard to get everything right initially

It was that they didn't update fast enough -- once we knew that this was NOT being spread by droplets

So yes, the 6 feet rule turned out to be wrong

It was wrong because COVID did NOT spread like the flu

Dr. Fauci did NOT make this rule

He did push CDC to come up with better data

20/20 hindsight is easy

Understanding what happened and being honest about how we got things right and wrong is how we move forward productively.”


I wish skud would research what he claims instead of just posting what someone told him. His claim about Dr. Fauci IS WRONG.



Ashish Kumar Jha (born December 31, 1970) is an Indian-American general internist physician and academic who served as the White House COVID-19 response coordinator from 2022–2023. He has been Dean of the Brown University School of Public Health since 2020.

Prior to Brown, he was the K.T. Li Professor of Global Health at Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, faculty director of the Harvard Global Health Institute, and a Senior Advisor at Albright Stonebridge Group. Jha is recognized as one of the leading health policy scholars in the nation. Jha's role at Brown University focuses on improving the quality and cost of health care, and on the impact of public health policy.[

Shaw Kenawe said...

Skud was wrong in his claim that Dr. Fauci “ denied the virus was from China.”

“Most virologists say that although a lab-leak origin is possible, the preponderance of scientific evidence points to a zoonotic origin for the COVID-19 pandemic, meaning that the virus spread to humans from wild animals. At the hearing, Fauci said he has always been open to both origin hypotheses, pointing to a February 2020 e-mail he sent to a prominent scientist who was alarmed that SARS-CoV-2 could have leaked from a lab. In the correspondence, Fauci said that any concerns should be reported to intelligence officials if they were substantiated. “It is inconceivable that anyone who reads this e-mail could conclude that I was trying to cover up the possibility of a laboratory leak,” he testified.“

This thread is NOT about Dr. Fauci, but I wanted to get the facts out that refute what Skud posted.


Les Carpenter said...

When ones prefered and reified beliefs take precedent over the eventually realized truth it's like turning off the lights. Permanently.

Mike said...

Let's see, tRUMP cancels the Obama pandemic response team and a million people die. Everything tRUMP touches dies.

Shaw Kenawe said...

To skudrunner and -FJ,

This thread is not about Dr. Fauci, and I will not publish slander and gossip about him by people who offer no evidence for those slanders.

Dr. Fauci testified under oath yesterday that he received ZERO compensation from big pharma during COVID.

-FJ will NOT hijack this thread with his accusations. He has his own blogs where he can spread his disinformation.

Skud, you continue to denigrate Dr. Fauci with your unverified claims. What’s your point? Here’s a reminder: DOCTOR FAUCI was appointed by Trump to lead the COVID task force. If you’re complaining about the restrictions put in place by DOCTOR Fauci, take that up with the convicted felon, Trump. Trump kept him on and did not fire him. The buck stops at the desk of the POTUS.

Dave Miller said...

Somehow this thread... hmmm, let me think on that, got off track.

Rather than deal with the sheer volume of convicted criminals surrounding President Trump and working in his admin, the troll brigade decided to hijack the thread.

Not since the nixon Admin have we seen anything like the Trump Admin and the number of criminals on the president's staff.

I remember when it was said that you know a man, or women by the company around them. But apparently for our conservative friends, that's no longer true, unless one of those friends has Alinsky or Kennedy in their name. Then, and only then, are people tarred by relationships.

Ahhh... the life of trolls. Sometimes you wish they'd just go back under their bridges.

Shaw Kenawe said...

Thersites, -FJ, Joe Conservative, you left 2 comments in Comment Moderation under the name “ unknown” and both comments have no connection with the 2 posts those comments were on in Comment

If you don’t have the self-discipline to respect what a blog host asks of you, here’s a suggestion: publish your comments on your own blogs.

Thanks.

Shaw Kenawe said...

Dave M.,

The old GOP also believed that one’s personal character counted as an indication of one’s moral compass. They pounded on that during the Clinton/ Lewinsky scandal, and they were correct to do so.

The MAGA Republicans no longer care about their candidate’s private or public moral turpitude. Something desperately wrong happened to what’s left of that political party.

My own experience with third subject on this thread is that Trump’s most ardent supporters will not, or cannot, come face to face with the mendacious character and moral depravity of their favored candidate. Either it is too painful for them to acknowledge, or they’ve lost themselves in the black hole of conspiracies.

Dave Miller said...

Shaw... speaking of the sycophants connected to Trump, and your list is a good start, maybe someone on the right can explain why a good man like former VP Mike Pence, is not supporting him.

I don't agree at all with Pence on politics, but on this he seems to understand that voting for a man who wanted him hanged for following the Constitution, is a bridge too far.

I never thought a day would come when literally only Chris Christie and Mike Pence seemed sane on the national GOP stage.

Dave Dubya said...

Shaw,

Yes, "Like Trump, they disregard what people ask of them, even a simple request like sticking to the subject in a post.

Like Trump, they believe requests, suggestions, or rules do not apply to them. Also, like Trump, they have no self-discipline, and believe their opinions and ideas are better than anyone else’s.

It’s understandable why they support a scoundrel like Trump."

In simpler terms they are authoritarian followers. No thinking or consideration of facts and evidence is required when your authoritarian leaders insist they have all the answers.

From:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/measuring-the-authoritarian-mind-set-of-trumps-followers/2020/10/01/23490cc8-ea38-11ea-970a-64c73a1c2392_story.html

"Measuring the authoritarian mind-set of Trump’s followers"

Some of the biggest questions about President Trump involve his followers. Who are they, what do they want, and why do they support him no matter what? “Authoritarian Nightmare: Trump and His Followers,” co-authored by John W. Dean and Bob Altemeyer, is an effort to answer those questions. Without his supporters, “Donald Trump would be nothing but a Twitter troll,” they assert.

Dean has seen presidential malfeasance firsthand. He served as White House counsel for Richard Nixon, was involved in the Watergate coverup, later provided congressional testimony about Nixon’s culpability, became a key prosecution witness in the trials of Nixon administration officials and pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice.

He has also written “Blind Ambition: The White House Years” and “Lost Honor: The Rest of the Story”; “Worse Than Watergate: The Secret Presidency of George W. Bush”; and “Conservatives Without Conscience,” which used Altemeyer’s work examining the connection between modern right-wing conservatism and authoritarianism. Altemeyer, a retired psychology professor at the University of Manitoba, has studied authoritarianism for many years and is the author of “The Authoritarians” and “Enemies of Freedom: Understanding Right-Wing Authoritarianism.”

...Trump is clearly an authoritarian leader, according to Dean and Altemeyer, but most of their book is devoted to examining and explaining authoritarian followers using psychological questions and personality tests. Altemeyer’s “RWA” scale measures how much someone believes in right-wing authoritarianism based on their responses to various statements. For example: “Our country desperately needs a mighty leader who will do what has to be done to destroy the radical new ways and sinfulness that are ruining us.” RWA followers strongly agree with this statement.

Shaw Kenawe said...

Dave Dubya,

Authoritarians also form partnerships with the majority religion in their countries, see Modi, Putin, Orban, and Trump, for examples. That makes them more powerful and dangerous.

More people should read Project 2025 to understand how Trump and his enablers (Fundamentalist Evangelicals, MAGA politicians, and certain members of the SCOTUS) want to turn our secular nation into a theocracy.

Shaw Kenawe said...

I just re-read my above comment and thought of this paradox:

Joe Biden is about as devout a religionist (Catholic) as anyone could imagine — consistent church goer, etc., and Trump is as far from a religionist as one can get — never see him in any church on Sundays. Yet it is the devout Catholic that wants to preserve our secular laws, and the guy who’s broken just about all the Commandments that are near and dear to American Christians who is in favor of, and even brags about , imposing religious laws on our secular nation.

We live in weird times.

Anonymous said...

Republicans who support Donald Trump are members of a rogue political party that does not recognize the results of legitimate elections. It isn't surprising that these political hacks resort to retribution. They have earned the sobriquet, Banana Republicans.

Les Carpenter said...

Damn Straight anonymous!

Paula said...

I don’t know if I should laugh or cry. Let me get this straight - President Biden has orchestrated the prosecution of Trump but he is unable to prevent the prosecution of his own son?!

Americans should perhaps be given a basic cognitive function test before they are permitted to vote.

skudrunner said...

Paula, The show trial is a total waste of time and money. The local son of the local president is being tried by the local juries while the step mom looks on from a near. Joey already visited one witness to lay the groundwork so when you said he is unable to prevent prosecution, he has done one even better. Show no one is against the law while paving the way for to be no punishment. Unlike joey b his handlers are sharp.

Shaw Kenawe said...

What on earth are you talking about, skud?

The trial is local because that is where the alleged crime occurred, just what happened in New York with Trump. Local!

Your insinuation is noted, without a drop of evidence that anything criminal happened. Hallie Biden is the widow of Beau Biden and the mother of President Biden’s two grandchildren. He visited her on the anniversary of Beau Biden’s death.

Now you and other Biden haters can deduce what you want, but you weren’t there, so you don’t know what went on between his son’s widow and him. Your implication is more about what goes on in your suspicious mind than what actually happened.

Les Carpenter said...

Now you and other Biden haters can deduce what you want...

They have, and they will continue to fabricate whatever delusions support their reified beliefs or desires.

It's the MAGA mentality and way. skudsy may not like trump (not sure I believe it) but he sure as hell talks like a MAGA soldier fully supportive if their message and reactionary agenda.

possumlady said...

Read this GREAT Letter to the Editor in the Post last evening. I think it is a brilliant suggestion:

The probability of Donald Trump being sentenced to jail even after he was convicted of 34 felonies in New York is near zero. Any sentence short of jail time will be used by Mr. Trump to mock the system of justice at political rallies and on Truth Social. However, there is one sentence that would undercut Trump’s ability to spread disinformation without hampering his free speech rights. It also would address Mr. Trump’s deficiencies as a candidate and a low-information American citizen, while promoting his rehabilitation instead of feeding into his claim of martyrdom. The sentence would consist of the following parts:

1. Mr. Trump would be required to take a course in U.S. history, the Constitution and civics over a period of time commensurate with recommended sentencing guidelines.

2. After completion of the course, Mr. Trump would be required to take the naturalization test given to all immigrants who seek American citizenship.

3. If Mr. Trump failed to pass this exam, he would be required to continue his coursework until he passed the test.

4. While Mr. Trump is fulfilling the above requirements, he should also be assigned community service at least once a week until he earned a passing grade. This should be a low-profile service such as office work for a nonpartisan charity or offering his voice to solicit contributions for food banks. He could work the phones and create ads for social media.

Dan Rita, Mount Holly, N.J.

skudrunner said...

PL, I think you are referring to the 70 million American Voters who you deem as low-information. Many of the 70 million would feel differently and feel the 70 million who supports a candidate who seeks to cancel the American dream as low-information.

My wife had to pass the naturalization test years ago and I don't think 50% of Americans could pass. Since the NEA and falsi deemed attending school was not important how many current students could pass a basic civics course. Ask a neighbors teen to name the branches of government and you might well be greeted with a stare.

Les Carpenter said...

Creative justice aimed at rehabilitation and personal growth.

Excellent idea.

For normal folks with a reasonable likelihood of rehabilitation.

Trump would likely rail against that as well. The savoir of the Christian Nationalists and neo-Nazis believes himself perfect in every way and therefore on him would be viewed both by him and his MAGA cult as the deep state and the Biden DOJ as the criminals. As they already do. Without so much as a smigeon of evidence.

But, that idea enacted would certainly grant the former guy the compassion he himsel would never extend to anyone else in his position unless they were a loyal sycophants. IMO anyway.

possumlady said...

Skud, where in my post did I mention ANYTHING about trump supporters? Geez, you have a big chip on your shoulder, imagining slights when there were none.

PLUS, I'm sure you would fail the test because you apparently have a hard time reading. As written above, trump's first requirement would be:
1. Mr. Trump would be required to take a course in U.S. history, the Constitution and civics over a period of time commensurate with recommended sentencing guidelines.
Then, and only then would he have to take the naturalization test. Or, do you think he and his supporters are too dumb to pass the test even after taking the required course??

skudrunner said...

Those who support him must be categorized with you statement "Mr. Trump’s deficiencies as a candidate and a low-information American citizen"

Maybe we should teach spend more time teaching history, the constitution and civics in schools and require students to pass tests to graduate. I know that is against the guidelines of the NEA but is might be a choice.