I'm putting this here because Schmidt wrote what I feel but am not able to express as perfectly as he does:
10:08 PM · Nov 8, 2020·Twitter for iPhone Steve Schmidt @SteveSchmidtSES This is a moment of global jubilation and profound relief. It is also a moment that requires vigilance and presence. This decision will kill Americans at a moment when Covid is raging. This will be a miserable winter of death in our country. The actions real target is 1/ 2/ American democracy. This is the first meaningful action in an attempt to kill it. I’m going to use a word with intention. Sedition. That is the appropriate word to describe the actions of @newtgingrich @LindseyGrahamSC @RudyGiuliani @TomCottonAR as they hurl baseless conspiracy 3/ Theories with no evidence of voter fraud whatsoever. Their actions are despicable and profoundly UNAMERICAN. The failure of incumbent GOP elected officials to congratulate the President-Elect is disgraceful. It is dangerous. It is 4/ unprecedented in the history of the country. This is thuggish and authoritarian behavior. It is not acceptable in America. The bad faith and dishonesty of the GOP majority in Washington at this moment is appalling. Apparently Trump’s ego needs sating so he is going to start 5/ Holding more super spreader rallies that will kill people as he takes a sledgehammer to the American people’s faith and belief in the legitimacy of the system with his blizzard of lies and conspiracy nonsense. What we are seeing is astounding. Senior American elected officials 6/ are refusing to accept the will of the American people. This may be playing out as a farce for now but we should all watch with wariness. We are witnessing an authoritarian moment. It won’t succeed. This time. But it is here and it has rooted itself in the soil of our polity. 7/ This is the essence of Trumpism. It is an authoritarian movement and a cult of personality. It has fascistic markers and teems with menace and extremism. Sadly, it is here to stay. @ProjectLincoln will fight on the side of American democracy and liberty. Here, the people are 8/ Sovereign. We choose our leaders and fire them when they fail. American soil is a bitter place for tyrants and autocrats. Trump has been defeated. Yet, the damage he has done will endure and he is not yet done vandalizing America and defacing his high office. There is light 9/ At the end of the tunnel but these next 70 days will be very hard. Trump is going to do things that will weaken our democracy for a generation over the next weeks. We are watching the greatest conspiracy theory of all time forming before our eyes— right now. That of course is 10/ The baseless idea that the election was stolen from Trump. It will be an article of faith in the GOP and belief in it will be tablestakes for every 24 candidate. What a tragedy for America. |
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It is time to move on and accept the results of the election. We don't need a four year whining tour to blame the results of your failures on someone else. Sure there was voter fraud on both sides, there always is but not a massive amount and that is whet it would take to overturn the election. If you feel you were cheated you have every right to not accept the new president as your president but he still is regardless of your hurt feelings.
Ford pardoned Nixon not because he was innocent but because it is best for the nation. Now trump needs to park his ego and hurt feelings and accept he lost which is something I don't think he can do.
skud: "Sure there was voter fraud on both sides..."
Saying it doesn't make it so. You've provided ZERO evidence; Trump's provided ZERO evidence. As usual, you come here and write stuff without a shred of evidence. It's just Trumpian gossip, b.s., and lies.
If you claim there was fraud, then give us the evidence. Since you haven't your claim is bullshit! And that's what we've come to expect from Trump and is supporters: LIES, LIES, LIES, AND BULLSHIT!
"Between 2000 and 2014 over one billion (1,000,000,000) votes were cast in American elections. The number of documented cases of voter fraud? 32!
And yet 70% of Republicans do not believe the 2020 election was free and fair."
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I didn't say it was massive but there is voter fraud in all elections, except maybe a small school board. You are old enough and smart enough to know what I said was true, if you have one vote cast that shouldn't be it is fraud.
Remember it was the democrat darling who said don't concede so it looks like trump took her advise.
I don't support unsolicited mail in voting and I remember you saying trump is not my president after he won and calling the election unfair so look to both sides on that argument.
Ask skudrunner why Trump and his goons are looking for fraud ONLY IN THE STATES WHERE HE LOST! Him and his goons haven't asked for a recount of votes in the states he won! Skud is too dense to get what that means. If there's fraud, why isn't Trump and his fkers looking for it in ALL THE STATES????
BIDEN WON! TRUMP IS A SORE LOSERMAN!
Is this the "fraud" skudrunner was talking about?
"A PA postal worker whose claims have been cited by top Republicans as potential evidence of widespread voting irregularities admitted to U.S. Postal Service investigators that he fabricated the allegations.
A Pennsylvania postal worker whose claims have been cited by top Republicans as potential evidence of widespread voting irregularities admitted to U.S. Postal Service investigators that he fabricated the allegations, according to three officials briefed on the investigation and a statement from a House congressional committee.
Richard Hopkins’s claim that a postmaster in Erie, Pa., instructed postal workers to backdate ballots mailed after Election Day was cited by Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) in a letter to the Justice Department calling for a federal investigation. Attorney General William P. Barr subsequently authorized federal prosecutors to open probes into credible allegations of voting irregularities and fraud, a reversal of long-standing Justice Department policy.
But on Monday, Hopkins, 32, told investigators from the U.S. Postal Service’s Office of Inspector General that the allegations were not true, and he signed an affidavit recanting his claims, according to officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe an ongoing investigation. Democrats on the House Oversight Committee tweeted late Tuesday that the “whistleblower completely RECANTED.”
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I find it very interesting that we’ve heard absolutely nothing about voter fraud for all those “unsolicited” ballots sent automatically to registered voters in Oregon (since 2000), Washington (since 2011), Colorado (since 2013), and Utah (since 2018). I wonder why that is???
Possumlady
Ray, Did you really understand what you questioned. Why would anyone ask to investigate something that is in their favor. That would be like shi-- questioning comey about his honesty when he changed his results to favor impeachment. Sometimes I think you write something you give no thought to.
Not trying to insult you but really!
The big -H- said don't concede and trump listened to her. It will all be over soon so you can rejoice in your victory and find a different target to attack other than trump. What is MSDNC going to do for the next two years.
The Times Called Officials in Every State: No Evidence of Voter Fraud
The president and his allies have baselessly claimed that rampant voter fraud stole victory from him. Officials contacted by The Times said that there were no irregularities that affected the outcome.
TO SKUDRUNNER:
There was no FRAUD. STOP SPREADING LIES!
The Times Called Officials in Every State: No Evidence of Voter Fraud
The president and his allies have baselessly claimed that rampant voter fraud stole victory from him. Officials contacted by The Times said that there were no irregularities that affected the outcome.
“Kansas did not experience any widespread, systematic issues with voter fraud, intimidation, irregularities or voting problems,” a spokeswoman for Scott Schwab, the Republican secretary of state in Kansas, said in an email Tuesday. “We are very pleased with how the election has gone up to this point.”
The New York Times contacted the offices of the top election officials in every state on Monday and Tuesday to ask whether they suspected or had evidence of illegal voting. Officials in 45 states responded directly to The Times. For four of the remaining states, The Times spoke to other statewide officials or found public comments from secretaries of state; none reported any major voting issues.
Statewide officials in Texas did not respond to repeated inquiries. But a spokeswoman for the top elections official in Harris County, the largest county in Texas with a population greater than many states, said that there were only a few minor issues and that “we had a very seamless election.” On Tuesday, the Republican lieutenant governor in Texas, Dan Patrick, announced a $1 million fund to reward reports of voter fraud.
Some states described small problems common to all elections, which they said they were addressing: a few instances of illegal or double voting, some technical glitches and some minor errors in math. Officials in all states are conducting their own review of the voting — a standard component of the certification process.
And this:
Why GOP superlawyer Ben Ginsberg is bucking his party and blasting Trump’s baseless election claims
From newspaper op-eds to network TV interviews, Ginsberg, recently retired from his work for the law firm that has represented President Trump’s campaigns, has denounced the baseless claims by Trump and his GOP allies that last week’s election was rigged and rife with fraud.
“For the president of the United States, the leader of the free world and head of the Republican Party, to make completely unsubstantiated charges about our elections being rigged is not right,” he said in an interview.
Whereas Ginsberg said the 2000 recount was a legitimate legal issue — a recount in a single state with the two candidates separated by just 537 votes — he said the Trump campaign has no legal basis to dispute the victory by President-elect Joe Biden.
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"Asked to explain his transformation, Ginsberg said he became increasingly troubled this year that Trump was not just making baseless claims about fraud, but also undermining a tenet of American democracy.
“My evolution started when the president doubled down in the lead-up to the 2020 election on his charges that our elections are rigged and fraudulent in a way that he hadn’t previously,” Ginsberg said. “It became a systemic attack made completely without evidence, aimed at undermining a basic pillar of our democracy. I know there’s no evidence for systemic fraud because I had spent the better part of every election for four decades working in Republican poll-watcher programs and elections day operations.”
Ginsberg, 69, is now one of the most visible Republican critics of Trump’s effort to undermine the election results. He has written op-eds for The Washington Post blasting Trump’s allegations that the election was fraudulent, including one in which he wrote, “My party is destroying itself on the Altar of Trump.” He has spread his message across the media, including a Sunday appearance on “60 Minutes.”
We will spend less time and money investigating voter fraud than we spent on trump collusion with russian interference and both came up with the same conclusion, no evidence.
That is not true.
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