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Wednesday, October 14, 2009

NFL REJECTS LIMBAUGH

The Hindenberg of Gasbags, no matter the gazillions of dollars paid to him for his daily emanations of effluvia, has just learned that he is not beloved by the NFL--owners and players.

The Gasbag apparently believed that his wealth could trump the noxious racism he's been broadcasting over his very long career and allow him to buy an athletic team.  Perhaps the Gasbag believed that people's memories are short and that no one would perform a simple Google search and find what he has said in the past about the NFL and its players:


"Look, let me put it to you this way: The NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it."

Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay said this afternoon that the divisive rhetoric of prospective Rams minority owner Rush Limbaugh makes him unappealing.



"I myself couldn't even think of voting for him," said Irsay speaking from the NFL's fall ownership meetings in Boston.

Asked if he'd spoken to other owners about Limbaugh's candidacy, Irsay said, "I haven't and I don't think I would even go to the point of talking to Tony Dungy, Jim Caldwell, Dwight Freeney, talking to those men and seeing what their positions are. I'm very sensitive to know there are scars out there. I think as a nation we need to stop it. Our words do damage and it's something that we don't need. We need to get to a higher level of humanity and we have.
 
 
NFL players' union opposes Limbaugh's bid for Rams, says football "overcomes division and rejects discrimination and hatred"




From an October 11 ESPN.com article:


NFL Players Executive Director DeMaurice Smith on Saturday made a move to solidify the union against a bid by conservative talk show radio host Rush Limbaugh as part of a group that aims to purchase the St. Louis Rams.


In an e-mail to the union's executive committee on Saturday specifically addressing Limbaugh's bid, Smith said, "I've spoken to the Commissioner [Roger Goodell] and I understand that this ownership consideration is in the early stages. But sport in America is at its best when it unifies, gives all of us reason to cheer, and when it transcends. Our sport does exactly that when it overcomes division and rejects discrimination and hatred."

NFL commissioner Goodell: Limbaugh's "divisive comments are not what the N.F.L. is all about"


From an October 13 New York Times report:

Commissioner Roger Goodell cast doubt on Rush Limbaugh's viability as an N.F.L. owner Tuesday, saying that "divisive comments are not what the N.F.L. is all about."

"I've said many times before, we're all held to a high standard here," Goodell said. Then he continued: "I would not want to see those comments coming from people who are in a responsible position in the NFL -- absolutely not."


Goodell emphasized that the Rosenbloom family, which owns the St. Louis Rams, is not even fully committed to sell its majority stake in the team and that they were extremely early in the process. Limbaugh has teamed with the former Madison Square Garden executive Dave Checketts in a bid for the Rams. But Goodell's comments were a thinly veiled signal that Limbaugh's bid -- even if it were the highest -- would most likely not receive support from owners, who must approve any change in ownership.

63 comments:

I Ain't Got No Blog said...
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Jim said...

Before you get all gaga over this non-sense I'd think you would like to hear both sides. I've listened to Rush for over 10 years and there is not one ounce of racism uttered on his program. Not one. You can't deny that because you haven't listened long enough. The left just loves to pick and choose sound bites and if that ain't enough they make up stuff. Saul Alinsky would be proud.

From RushLimbaugh.com:

RUSH: Well, this is the dilemma that I admitted having when the program began. I've talked about this a bunch. Brief history. When I started this radio program in 1988, I had never been called a racist, a bigot, a sexist, a homophobe. People who knew me never thought that. It was ridiculous. But then I got on the radio as a conservative and all of a sudden I started being attacked as a racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe. And I didn't know what to do about it. It had never happened, and there was nobody that could give me any guidance. I just got a bunch of advice and there are basically two pieces of advice I got. "Rush, you gotta hit back! You can't let people make those claims about you and try to ruin your reputation and smear you. You gotta fight back on that!"

So I would take that advice and I would respond to it, and the critics would just (rubbing hands together) laugh with glee, "A-ha! We must have hit a home run. Limbaugh's upset," and they would just add to the smears. And then other people said, "Look, you're bigger than all that combined. You just have to ignore it because if you acknowledge it, you just elevate it and more and more people hear about it than otherwise would," and those are always the two options that you have. Now, there are mitigating factors, that is, I think when race is brought into it that you can't let stand. If people are trying to destroy your reputation and your credibility, your life and your career by attacking you as a racist, then you have to stand up and fight that. Now, we are in the process behind the scenes working to get apologies and retractions with the force of legal action against every journalist who has published these entirely fabricated quotes about me, slavery, and James Earl Ray. I never said them. We have tracked them. We know where they came from. We don't know the identity but we know where they came from, a single blogger who posted the stuff on my Wikipedia page in Wiki quotes, unsourced. Wikipedia says, "Well, this is in dispute." It's not in dispute. They were never uttered. I never said them. And I've even told reporters, "I never said them." One reporter said to me, "Oh, don't worry about it. You've created a masterful publicity stunt here," meaning my effort to buy the St. Louis Rams is just a publicity stunt. "Enjoy the controversy. I'm not going to retract it. Why should I? This is good for you," he wrote. He's black. Jason Whitlock.

Ciao Baby said...

Oh yeah you can always depend on Shaw coming out of the woodwork to defend the Black Guy Al Sharpton over the White guy no matter who it is.
The thug-mongers Football payers don’t even deserve to be in Rush’s employ. Her views on this subject are SO slanted it can make me throw up.
I don't even care about Rush, but to be on the same side of AL SHARPTON is a travesty. Al Sharpton doesn't even understand the definition of HONESTY

I Ain't Got No Blog said...

So if I write an opposing view to yours and show where you are wrong, you delete my post!

It's so typical of someone who is closed off to opposing viewpoints How typical of you lefties!

I also have that post on Truth's blog, where at least he has the GUTS to leave it.

Shaw Kenawe said...

I believe Rush Limbaugh is a destructive force in America. And I believe he's a racist.

I'll let his own words speak for themselves:

"Look, let me put it to you this way: The NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it."

I've heard children utter the coda "There, I said it" when they believe they have uttered something everyone "knows" but is too afraid of expressing for fear of retaliation. Limbaugh felt comfortable in saying those words because he believed everyone listening to him agrees that the NFL, because of the number of Black men who play in it, resembles nothing more than a gang of murderous thugs.

Would he have made that observation if no African-American played in the NFL? IDTS. Then why did he utter such a smear?

One could use the same sort of racially loaded statement by saying that the Congressional Republicans all too often (Senate and House) look like a meeting of the KKK, without the hoods. That is the equivalent of what Limbaugh's words were about the NFL:

Stupid and racist.

Shaw Kenawe said...

IAGNB,

This is what you wrote about me in the comment I deleted:

"Shaw Kenawe You're either in denial or a blundering idiot.
YOU are very big on throwing around that word “RACIST” but YOU are a bigger RACIST than any of them."


I've decided to protect myself from having to read anymore comments like that. And comments like the ones you happily joined in on in another blogger's hatefest about me.

Learn a lesson in presenting your arguments from the commenter, Jim.

He's a gentleman. You are not.

As you can see, Jim's opposing comment has not been deleted.

Shaw Kenawe said...

Ciao Baby,

Are you kidding?

I've written absolutely nothing about Sharpton. Nothing.

Everything in my post is about my opinion of Limbaugh, as well as the NFL's players and owners' take on his bid to become part-owner of the Rams. There's nothing in any of this about Sharpton.


And please do me a favor. Stay away from here.

Go find someone else to annoy with your non-sequiturs.

Shaw Kenawe said...

IAGNB and RaAA,

You guys need to learn how to argue but mostly, to read. Neither of you do either well.

I've never said a word about Louis Farrakhan on this blog.

No one said anything about Limbaugh not having the "right" to be a part owner of an NFL team.

The subject of this post is that THE NFL DOESN'T WANT HIM--THE OWNERS AND THE PLAYERS.

All other discussions over what the Gasbag has said on his show, what Sharpton said, or anyone else is irrelevant.


Rude and Arrogant Ass,

Please stop coming here. You were all to happy to join in with IAGNB and all the others who were all too eager to bash me in that sexually disgusting blog post a few weeks ago.

I don't want you here.

You and IAGNB have proved time and again that you have nothing important to bring to any discussion.

Arthurstone said...

I love reading posts defending the great man. Always lots of CAPS.

Yet another, albeit indirect, contribution of Rush Limbaugh to civil discourse.

And Jim, thanks for working Saul Alinsky into the thread.

Well done.

Jim said...

Hey, SK, I knew this would get out of hand. You are one brave gal and I respect that of you.

Now, every one of these people from Rick Sanchez to David Shuster to Tamron Hall to James Carville -- who really knows better. James Carville knows me. We have socialized together. James Carville is repeating this totally fabricated lie attributed to me about slavery. We have tracked its origins. Its origins are in 2005, a blogger who was throwing it all over the Internet and then got it into my Wikipedia entry in the Wiki quotes, and even there it says it's unsubstantiated, "disputed," but these people are still going in there and using it. These are professional journalists: Rick Sanchez, Tamron Hall, David Shuster -- who, by the way, NBC already suspended Shuster once for saying that the Clintons "pimped" out Chelsea Clinton. Again from RushLimbaugh.com

Would it have been any better SK if Rush had used the feud between the Hatfields and the McCoys as an analogy of violence in a football game? I think you are being way to sensitive about comparing a football game as a battle between the Crips and Bloods. Some of these games get personally vicious, ala the Oakland Raiders of the '60s and the battle between the Houston Oilers and the Pittsburgh Steelers.

BTW - it is only the vocal whiners in the NFL that are being reported on in the media. Of course for me I quit watching pro sports years ago when salaries got to a point I could no longer relate to. Just a bunch of rich guys of one color, green.

Jim said...

Thanks Arthurstone, I think. ;-)

Arthurstone said...

It isn't really a compliment Jim.

It's an acknowledgement of the current 'conservative' fascination with the great Saul Alinsky. His thoughts & tactics are turned upside down to defend over-privileged demagogues like Rush Limbaugh.

What a world!

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/23/weekinreview/23alinsky.html?_r=1

dmarks said...

Jim said:

"I've listened to Rush for over 10 years and there is not one ounce of racism uttered on his program. Not one."

I can't recall hearing it either. But I have not listend to Rush Limbaugh 24/7. Or 3/5 as the case may be. Others have, and I did check out the source of the quotes that Shaw likes to list as examples of Rush's racism. Unfortunately, they are true quotes. And it's pretty hard to deny the racism in the quotations, other than the Spike Lee one which plays on Lee's specific reputation from having made a movie in favor of mindless rioting.

On the subject of football, I remember when Rush made those racial comments about the NFL. I heard these comments from his own mouth (through the golden microphone and into my radio). Racist? I'm not sure. Ham-nanded and dumb? Of course. Rush was injecting race into place where it had no business being. He was the one playing the race card on this.

I know tons of NFL fans, and they are the most colorblind guys imaginable. Rush's racial twist on things is way out there.

Rush does make some great points on a lot of other things, like when he speaks his "civics 101" style lessons on the greatness of free enterprise and all that. But he has way too many gaffes, and a habit of going off on tangents where he can only lose, and does only lose.

Remember when Rush Limbaugh used to go on and on endlessly about toenail fungus and soccer injuries? That's quite embarassing, as is his insistence on adding race to football discussions. He can do much better than that. He has done much better than that. But I do not excuse him at all when he takes the low road, the divisive road, and goes off on nutty tangents.

A New York Guy's View said...

So now a black racist wanting to ruin the game of football? And turn it into a racial issue?
where was this racist douchebag when a black kid beat to death another black kid with a 2x4 in Chicago 2 weeks ago. Didn't hear a damn word out of him then!! The Sharpton's of the world don't give one flyin' fig for the Black youth unless there is a possibility for a big payoff.

That Pompous ass irrelevant racist Sharpton is always looking for his 15 minutes of fame this month it’s about Rush and Football. Sharpton seems to weasel his way into everything when he wants publicity.


By the way, did you also attack Wanda Sykes when she made those disgusting remarks?

A New York Guy's View said...

If you listened to the show, you'd know of what you speak, since you don't and would rather get your information off of blog sites, and liberal media sites you would know the truth. No He is not, But don't take my word for it, His website contains transcribes of the actual conversations taken place on his show.
It’s really very funny that you liberals never talk about the liberal racists. Crystal Mangum rape hoax. Tawana Brawley rape hoax. Demands for the firing of Don Imus while supporting vulgar misogynistic rappers who call women bitches and hos. Quota systems. Affirmative action. Black Panthers. Nation of Islam. Aztlan. MECHA, La Raza, LULAC. And yes your Dear racist Judge Sonia Sotomayor.

Look, if you want to hate Rush, or ridicule him, that's fine. But instead of just posting lists of things he said that are taken out of context, why don't you research them, pull up the full text of the conversation

Arthurstone said...

Learn something new everyday.

Spike Lee made a movie 'in favor of mindless rioting'.

Go figure.

Recommended reading:

'A Peoples History of the United States' by Howard Zinn

'Mexico Unconquered: Chronicles of Power & Revolt' by John Gibler

I'm currently reading the Gibler book. Useful views of how the US got to where it is and how we too often choose to behave now that we're here.

Jim said...

O, say it ain't so Arthurstone:
It isn't really a compliment Jim.

Dadgum it man, you're like a money sock without any money.

Look here A, the use of Alinsky is appropriate. It is a tactic in his book to isolate, demonize, and belittle your opponent, using whatever tactics that will get it done. Lies, shout downs, the works.

1 more thang A, Wikipedia is a discredited source for any thing written there. If it said the sun rose in the east I would verify that with an astronomy dept at the local college to make sure!

For the green in leaves folks the bunch of owners in the NFL ain't exactly saints! Rush wouldn't even be a FULL owner. I dare you to do a research of NFL owners, heck, I double dog dare ya! ;-)

Jim said...

Always the outsider eh A?

He is perhaps best known for A People's History of the United States, which presents American history through the eyes of those he feels are outside of the political and economic establishment. Source

Arthurstone said...

Jim typed:

'Always the outsider eh A?'

Not really Jim.

But usually the skeptic. And thanks for the link to Zinn. He's an interesting guy and provides a useful counterpoint to the typical Norman Rockwell/Chamber of Commerce/John Wayne version of US history we've been spoon fed since infancy.

Jim said...

John Gibler is one interesting apologist for leftist violence. I wonder what it is they are fighting to establish? A Cuban style nirvana? Just asking.

Arthurstone said...

Unlike you Jim I think I'll read the book.

It's just possible you, heaven forbid, are asking the wrong question as to what 'they' are fighting to establish'.

But seriously.

Isn't Google great?

Though I think your thumbnail sketch of the Zapitistas (first paragraph at the site you linked) is a bit shallow and displays a certain, shall we say, laziness.

But I'll get back to you once I've finished the book by 'John Gibler is one interesting apologist for leftist violence.'

Cheers!

TRUTH 101 said...

How is pandering to bigots, as Rush Limbaugh does, any better than being an outright bigot? The "Crips and Bloods" comment wasn't an appeal to bigots? Or "the bone up the nose" comment?

What is obvious to those of us with sense is that folks like Ciao Baby. Blogless Guy and others, are totally blinded by the pandering to their inner bigot by Limbaugh and others of his ilk.


Open your eyes friends. This guy is making millions by exploiting emotions that are beneath the dignity of rational human beings. Question this guy's motives behind the things he says before blindly cheering him on.

A New York Guy's View said...
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A New York Guy's View said...

Sorry for the deletions,I had to correct my spelling errors.
TRUTH 101 said...
How is pandering to bigots, as Rush Limbaugh does, any better than being an outright bigot? The "Crips and Bloods" comment wasn't an appeal to bigots? Or "the bone up the nose" comment?
What is obvious to those of us with sense is that folks like Ciao Baby. Blogless Guy and others, are totally blinded by the pandering to their inner bigot by Limbaugh and others of his ilk.
Open your eyes friends. This guy is making millions by exploiting emotions that are beneath the dignity of rational human beings. Question this guy's motives behind the things he says before blindly cheering him on.

What is obvious to me is YOU are completely OFF topic. Completely Off Topic here, the topic is Al Sharpton putting his Big Mouth in to Rush Limbaugh's affairs.
While left-wingers love to say Rush Limbaugh is a racist and call him all kinds of names as clearly shown on this blog, truth be told, there is no evidence of this. Instead, there is distorted reporting and sound bites taken out of context (remember the deliberate hatchet job the Democrat party did during the elections on what Limbaugh said last year about Hispanics?), and blatant lies. I’ve listened to Limbaugh for ages, and NEVER has he uttered a racist comment. He may speak more openly than others are comfortable with, may be more provocative than leftists want him to be (although, just listening to left-wing maniac Keith Olbermann rant for five minutes makes Limbaugh sound like a choir boy), but he is no racist. You want to talk about racists? Why not talk about Wyanda Sikes, or Whoopie Goldberg? I never see that happening here! And not in any of the lefties comments here have I read ONE thing about AL SHARPTON being the racist that he is!!!!! Sharpton wants to deny Limbaugh the right to buy and operate a business? Doesn't that smack of white race hate, and facisim? Sharpton's time is over and done with and he just doesn't get it. So he wants to grab Rush's headlines as Sharpton has no audience, and the Liberal left is obsessed with anything Rush does. Why are they so afraid?

BTW, Tax officials have a message for Rev. Al Sharpton: pay up. The IRS has filed personal liens against Sharpton totaling nearly $1 million (the actual value of the lien as of last spring was $931,397). Sharpton also owes nearly $365,558 to the City of New York for unpaid personal income tax; his for-profit company, Rev. Al Communications, currently owes the state of New York $175,962 in delinquent taxes. And that may be only the top of the iceberg. So how’s that for the pot call the kettle black? Another low-life tax cheat that thinks he is above having to pay taxes.
If Rush has the money and the desire, why shouldn't he "be allowed" to purchase whatever he likes? Does anyone seriously think that a player would turn down his money? If you don’t like him then don’t support his team. But this is America and even if he is a racist which he is not, he should still be allowed to buy a team.

Arthurstone said...
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Arthurstone said...

A New York Guys View Raved:

'What is obvious to me is YOU are completely OFF topic. Completely Off Topic here, the topic is Al Sharpton putting his Big Mouth in to Rush Limbaugh's affairs.'

Just to get things clear the actual post was regarding Rush Limbaugh and the NFL.

Sharpton was introduced on the discussion thread by something called Ciao Baby.

No need to thank me.

Keep up the work New York Guy!

CALLING OUT A JERK said...

Arthurstone said...

A New York Guys View Raved:

'What is obvious to me is YOU are completely OFF topic. Completely Off Topic here, the topic is Al Sharpton putting his Big Mouth in to Rush Limbaugh's affairs.'
Just to get things clear the actual post was regarding Rush Limbaugh and the NFL.
Sharpton was introduced on the discussion thread by something called Ciao Baby.

No need to thank me.
Keep up the work New York Guy



HEY STUPID, THE TOPIC IS RUSH AND SHARPTON!

dmarks said...

Arthurstone said: "Learn something new everyday. Spike Lee made a movie 'in favor of mindless rioting'."

Glad to provide you some education. Go see the movie "Do the Right Thing". I did. That's the mindless rioting one.

New York Guy said: "Look, if you want to hate Rush, or ridicule him, that's fine. But instead of just posting lists of things he said that are taken out of context, why don't you research them, pull up the full text of the conversation."

I DID look up the context of the Limbaugh quotes that appear way down in the right-hand column. The context does not alter them. They all stand, other than the Spike Lee one. The racism gets quite blunted on that one when you check out Lee's previous pro-riot movie.

Truth 101 said: "How is pandering to bigots, as Rush Limbaugh does, any better than being an outright bigot? The "Crips and Bloods" comment wasn't an appeal to bigots? Or "the bone up the nose" comment?"

Well, the bone one shows an outright bigot. I can probably be convinced that the crips one does too.

All: Sharpton does come across as a way-off-topic subject here, I have to say.

TRUTH 101 said...

I've liked Reverend Al since he gave the best speech at the 2004 Democratic Presidential Convention. I harbor no delusions about the man though. He's made a great living sticking his nose in stories and being a guest on the big news shows. Great example of capitalism and making money for not producing anything material. Much like Wall Street executives. The right should build a monument to Al Sharpton. He epitomizes the economic philosophy of the rulers of the republican party.

Arthurstone said...

Of course I've seen Do the Right Thing dmarks.

I have a hard time believing you saw it.

Wait. I take that back.

It is not ' the mindless rioting one' you describe in your thumbnail review.

What's the other Spike Lee 'pro-riot' movie anyway?

Malcolm X?

Derrick said...

TRUTH 101 said...

I've liked Reverend Al since he gave the best speech at the 2004 Democratic Presidential Convention. I harbor no delusions about the man though. He's made a great living sticking his nose in stories and being a guest on the big news shows.
. The right should build a monument to Al Sharpton. He epitomizes the economic philosophy of the rulers of the republican party.


I have a great suggest for his monument


http://bristle.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/piss021peepshows1e2.jpg

Arthurstone said...

calling out a jerk:

Thanks!

They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Anonymous said...

This is why I despise Spike Lee...speaking of parasites…

dmarks said...

Arthur: "Do the Right Thing" is the dumb pro-riot movie. "Malcolm X" is not it. That movie suffers from being kind of sleepy and stiff. One reviewer wisley put it "Like the tired sequel to a long series of previous movies, Malcolm I through Malcolm IX".

Anywhere, here's a rather well written review from IMDB in which someone refers to the mindless riot aspect:

"West Side Story said more about NY race relations, in clearer terms, nearly 30 years earlier (and the characters dressed more like adults than elementary school pupils). Lee's neighbourhood is strangely devoid of gangs and gang members (surely the salient features of any tough US urban neighbourhood) and he focuses on (and himself acts) the role of a struggling individual trying to hold down a job in a small business run by an Italian-origin family.

As if he has internalised the US majority's anti-black prejudice, Lee depicts working-class black society as infantilized, leaderless and incoherent, and it is hardly surprising when a ridiculous confrontation over a trivial issue blows up into an ugly, mindless riot. There seem to be no proper adults among the gabbling, show-off blacks, and the action largely concerns the incoherent ramblings of directionless characters who only coalesce when they rise up in insensate fury.

Viewing the picture 20 years late, my strong reaction to the riot was for everyone on the street to be locked up forthwith and get their heads well knocked together. That's certainly what would happen in Africa, but the USA has its own peculiar baggage: a racial melting pot in which most blacks stay permanently at the bottom of the mix, and new waves of immigrants regularly sail past them into prosperity.

Lee was clearly trying to address this issue, but the necessity of making an entertaining film about amusing people to sell seats and pay off the Studio's investment tended to trivialise his efforts: when the riot does occur it is all the more shockingly senseless because the people involved have been caricatured throughout the action. Although Lee cites gifted leaders, M.L. King and Malcolm X, and brandishes their portraits, at the end of this film it is hard to believe that these grandiloquent public men arose from the same confused, purposeless people that Lee depicts."


Why not let this one go, Arthur? Does it really detract from Shaw's point of putting those Limbaugh quotes in there if just one of them is not really racist?

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Anon said: "This is why I despise Spike Lee...speaking of parasites…"

I don't despise him. He's just a typical media figure who is good at the art of self-promotion and keying into controversy in order to sell tickets. Like Oliver Stone and many many others.

Arthurstone said...

dmarks wondered:

Why not let this one go, Arthur?

And let stand your libel that Spike Lee makes 'pro-riot' films and is 'in favor of mindless rioting'?

I don't think so dmarks.

You have an endless proclivity for presenting leftists in the worst possible light and then 'balancing' those smears by trotting out David Duke.

rockync said...

This IS the 21st century and it is not difficult to know exactly what Rush has said - he's all over youtube.
Things like his "Barak the Magic Negro" segment or his slavery built the South and the streets were safe.
Must have missed a few shows in those 10 years Jim...

dmarks said...

Arthur: Actually, I said nothing about leftists. I don't know of Spike Lee is one. I never gave it any thought. This hasn't been a right-vs-left issue here.

As far as providing David Duke for balance goes, you have probably somehow missed my anti-Limbaugh comments in this very post.

As for me "You have an endless proclivity for presenting leftists in the worst possible light"... this is a rather untrue summary. I have only portrayed the very worst leftists in "the worst possible light", because this is how they are. Again.... for the last time? can you realize that there are some very bad leftists on the fringe. Despite what Rush Limbaugh would have you believe, there is a difference between, say, Fidel Castro and Sen. Tom Harkin.

Things aren't so black and white as you would have us believe. There are good leftists, and there are also a few whose actions are in "the very worst light". I always separate these monsters from the liberals. Yet, you, again and again, like to circle the wagons in such a large circle that Mao, Pol Pot, etc are included with Ted Kennedy, etc as "good leftists". Learn the difference. There are some extremists on the Left, and they are utterly indefensible, and it is an insult to liberals to equate the extremists as being on their side. They aren't.

Back to "Do the Right Thing", it was quite apparent that Lee's movie portrayed the mindless riot in a positive or at least justified light. This perceptive observation about the film is hardly "libel".

libhom said...

Rush is going to be enormously upset about this. This is a huge defeat for him. However, his followers will remain in his orbit, unable to pull away.

dmarks said...

Lib: Ya think? Limbaugh's gone ballistic about it.

TAO said...

Quote from Rush Limbaugh, ""This is not about the NFL, it's not about the St. Louis Rams, it's not about me," Limbaugh said. "This is about the ongoing effort by the left in this country, wherever you find them, in the media, the Democrat Party, or wherever, to destroy conservatism, to prevent the mainstreaming of anyone who is prominent as a conservative.

"Therefore, this is about the future of the United States of America and what kind of country we're going to have."

So, he actually believes that his not getting a piece of the action in regards to an NFL football team is somehow going to destroy conservatism...

I am sorry that his buddies threw him under the bus when they saw that he was going to be a liability....THAT sounds like good ol' American Capitalism to me!

So, Rush believes if he doesn't get what he wants then this country is going to hell in a hand basket...

What a spoiled brat....he would have made it great in the NFL with all the rest of the spoiled pampered brats...

Michael said...

I liked what Keith Olbermann said on Sunday Night Football-if we're going to start judging sports owners on their moral qualities, there are going to be about 3 owners left.

The NFL is a private club-it doesn't matter how much money you have, you don't have a right to own an NFL team. The other owners have to accept your bid.

Limbaugh's rejection is nothing more and nothing less than the free market at work-a group of sports plutocrats put their nose up at a potential applicant to join their club. Plain and simple.

The reasons why? It doesn't matter, because it's not up to us.

(In my personal opinion, there is plenty to object to, morally and otherwise, in what Limbaugh has actually said on his radio program, never mind what is falsely attributed to him. Jim's statement that there is not one ounce of racism is laughably, demonstrably false. But it doesn't matter what I think or what Jim thinks, because I'm not an NFL owner.)

Limbaugh's fans decrying this as some sort of "conspiracy" is just more hot air feeding their own conspiracist nonsense.

Tom said...

Just be happy Rush does not want to buy a piece of the Red Sox.

Jim said...

The left won this one. Yessir, it is something to be proud of, however, I do wonder if it had been Rev. Jesse Jackson if the left wouldn't have stayed silent, much less the NFL.

Jim said...

Jim's statement that there is not one ounce of racism is laughably, demonstrably false.

Put up or shut up. If you can bucko.

Try not to use a leftist hate blogger OK? Use something more believable.

Jim said...

Final thoughts before I lay my head down tonight.

I watched some of the clips from The Factor on the website and Bill O'Reilly has been researching the quotes attributed to Rush. He can't find them! They don't exist. Well, the Bloods and Crips do.

From RushLimbaugh.com today:
So the Bloods and Crips comment I think I said sometimes the game looks like Bloods and Crips without the weapons.

Now, we had Mercury Morris who was I guess on CNN a couple days ago say, "I know what he's talking about and he's right, I know exactly what he's talking about." Mercury Morris played for the Dolphins back in the Don Shula era. My comment could easily be taken as criticism of players. It was criticism of that kind of -- it was totally unnecessary -- it lost the ball game. Lost the ball game all for the purpose of strutting around. And what it was, folks, was criticism of a mind-set. . .But that comment was more of a, "Oh, no, jeez, don't let this happen to the game." I don't want to see it. I have the game on a pedestal. I have the people who play it on a pedestal. I don't want that to change. So I was criticizing a mind-set that is destructive, and it was not helpful. It was not racial. Bloods and Crips makes it look racial, the way I chose to describe it. I could have perhaps chosen a different term.


This whole ordeal was strictly a political hatchet job against Rush. Plain and simple. Some may say the NFL avoids controversy and I would say, "since when?" Aren't there plenty of felons in the NFL? Or the NBA? Or MLB? I guess if one has talent a second chance and your ability to draw a crowd is a good thing, unless, you are Rush Limbaugh.

Anonymous said...

You should have watched MSNBC last night, seems like they were perfectly able to come up with numererous racist quotes of Limbaugh's. Not sure why nobody here can find any. There are PLENTY.

TAO said...

Jim,

You are probably correct about this comment, "This whole ordeal was strictly a political hatchet job against Rush."

But remember, "...he who lives by the sword dies by the sword..."

Many people have seen their own aspirations shot down by Rush Limbaugh and his political hatchet jobs....

Rude and Arrogant Ass said...
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Anonymous said...

"The hell with their rights."

How can anyone possibly see this as a rights issue?

Shaw Kenawe said...

Eric Boehlert writes:

"To get a true sense of the incoherent right-wing reaction to the NFL public rejection of Limbaugh, please go read professional Palin pal John Ziegler's name-calling screed at Big Hollywood. It's priceless, as Ziegler asserts that everyone/anyone who dislikes Limbaugh's brand of hate is ignorant. (And yes, that includes pretty much the entire NFL.) And nobody has permission to criticize Oh Mighty Rush because he has free speech rights....or something. (Note to Ziegler: Free speech protects your right to say things. That doesn't mean people have to agree. Just sayin'.)

Here's what's so satisfying about watching the screaming and foot-stomping on the right: Limbaugh makes his living smearing and insulting anyone who disagrees with him. And then when he ventures out of his protected right-wing talk radio bubble and tries to become a player in mainstream American culture and he's resoundingly told to get lost because people don't like the the type of smears and insults he wallows in for a living, his allies announce it's not fair. They claim nobody is allowed to question Rush or his motives.

Oh brother."

Shaw Kenawe said...

Jim wrote:

"Plain and simple. Some may say the NFL avoids controversy and I would say, "since when?" Aren't there plenty of felons in the NFL?"

This is the crux of the matter, Jim. Because there are some bad guys in the NFL, and some of those bad guys have dark skin, Limbaugh likened THE ENTIRE NFL to thugs in gangs.

He used race as a means to denigrate an entire sports franchise.

There is no excuse for what he said about the NFL. He has the right to say it; and the NFL has the right to tell him to go stuff his aspirations to be an owner in the League that he insulted.

Just because there are bad cops in any given city's police force, would it make it right for you or anyone to characterize a police department as a criminal operation?

This is what Limbaugh did to the NFL. Now he's paying the price for his freedom to say whatever he wanted to say--it's called consequences.

A guy named Dave said...

Was it just a couple weeks ago when El Rushbo was crowing gleefully about Obama being rejected by the world in his bid to get the Olympics for Chicago? And then a week later Obama wins the Nobel Peace Prize, and a week after that a group of AMERICANS tell Rush to get lost, they don't like him or his racism?

Oh, the humanity!

Poor wittle Rush. He can dish it, but Big Boy certainly has shown he hasn't got the 'nads to take it.

What a gutless wuss.

Gordon said...

Congratulations, Shaw. All of the false and mangled quotes you guys have been spreading finally paid off.

You win!

Truth loses.

By any means necessary.

No wonder you're celebrating.

Gordon said...

Ah, never mind.

I've pointed out the hostess' tendency to take quotes out of context and post others whose sources are murky or nonexistent. When advised of this, the hostess has chosen not to correct them.

Now she's celebrating the smearing of someone based on entirely fabricated quotes.

I'm out of here.

Anonymous said...

It's not that hard, it's just www.google.com.

Here, I'll help you.

http://newsone.com/elections/top-10-racist-limbaugh-quotes/

Anonymous said...

When Gordon said "I'm out of here" he was referring to his mind.

Arthurstone said...

Gordon whined:

'Congratulations, Shaw. All of the false and mangled quotes you guys have been spreading finally paid off.'


Tell it to Van Jones, Gordon.

Shaw Kenawe said...

Limbaugh explains the "context" of comparing the NFL to the Bloods and Crips:


NFL Bloods and Crips, Explained: It Was All About Love of the Game
October 14, 2009


"RUSH: Well, I'm in a position here where I can't address -- I'd love to -- but I can't address the thrust of your comments here. Well, maybe I can because I have said something that they are taking out of context, the Bloods and Crips comment, maybe I can explain that. But, look, nobody is clean and pure as the wind-driven snow, and everybody gets second chances. People pay the price when they pay their debt, if they are convicted of something, you wipe the slate clean. I don't have any desire to deny people second chances and that kind of thing. What you're really talking about here is the hypocrisy of things. Hypocrisy is all over the place. It's always there. But it is the reality. It is what it is. And that has to be dealt with. And the way to deal with it is not so much point it out as to recognize it as an obstacle and how to deal with it. And those are the kinds of things I can't discuss, but let me take the occasion of your call to explain the Bloods and Crips comment, because these guys who are now admitting, "Okay, maybe we can't source those quotes about Limbaugh and James Earl Ray and slavery, but he said Bloods and Crips! He said Bloods and Crips!"


They're trying to get anything else to continue the narrative here that I am some subhuman species with no rights to exist anywhere outside this radio studio and within these radio waves. I believe the comment's from 2007, and I believe the comments were made to a phone call, I had a phone call -- I think -- I'd have to check the transcript of that date, which I've not done, but my memory is, it was a playoff game in San Diego between the Chargers and the Patriots, and the Patriots had a fourth down with a very few seconds left in the game, fourth and ball game, and the Chargers held 'em. Chargers win. Chargers were leading. Then all of a sudden a ref throws a flag, 15 yards or something for taunting, unsportsmanlike conduct, some Chargers DB had gotten in the face of some Patriots player, was doing a "you can't diss me" act and so forth, and it lost the game for the Chargers. And I praised the official for throwing the flag. See, I love the game. I love the National Football League."

I've read that three times and find absolutely NO explanation for comparing the entire NFL to gangs of thugs, known for their murderous actions and the dark color of their skin--because of an action by an African-American NFL player Limbaugh disagreed with.

In what context do we take the admonition that an African-American caller should take the bone out of his nose and call Limbaugh back?

Or Limbaugh's incessant harping on President Obama's race?

Hafrican American? Did Limbaugh discuss the ethnic heritage of the Bushes and Clinton?

I don't think so. Limbaugh brings Mr. Obama's race into everything, and you can find his many quotes on it anywhere on the internet.

And now he's p.o.'d because his nastiness has caused the NFL to not look favorably upon him.

I had absolutely nothing to do with it. Limbaugh's words are out there, context and all, for people to read and then make their own judgments.

The Commissioner of the NFL and the players rejected Mr. Limbaugh.

But I'm flattered Gordon believes someone as insignificant and powerless as I had anything to do with seeing justice done in this particular case.

Jim said...

O, not every black athlete agrees with what happened to Rush:

from RushLimbaugh.com transcript -
RUSH: We have the Hutch on the phone from Seattle. Ken Hutcherson, former linebacker, Dallas Cowboys, Seattle Seahawks. Hutch, welcome to the program.

THE HUTCH: Hey, my man. I am so mad, I am doing back flips up here in Seattle. What in the world is going on in the United States? I mean, the whole issue, Rush -- whether you like it or not -- is they have done you wrong. And this is intolerance, it's prejudice, and if America don't wake up, it is going to happen to them. I am so mad, man, I cannot even -- and I'm a man of the cloth, Rush! I'm not supposed to get this upset. It is time for all of us... You know, why don't they talk to some African-Americans that know you?

RUSH: Oh, that would destroy the narrative. That would destroy the template.

THE HUTCH: Oh, forget that. You know, and talk to some African-Americans know that the poverty pimps, Sharpton and Jackson, they're nothing but slave sliders and pushers to get their way. And you're going to let them have a voice on all the stuff that they've done? Jesse Jackson was telling Bush to, "Stay out of the bushes." He was the one in the bushes having illegitimate kids! How in the world can the NFL -- and I'm going to tell you something else, brother, straight from me, who played football. Those African-American brothers who talk about they wouldn't play? That is the biggest lie on this side of the universe. Not only would their wives get on them and make 'em go -- and their girlfriends, and their moms; they would beat 'em all the way to the 50 yard line and tell them, "You better get out there and get that game check." And why don't they talk to the hundreds of African-American players that would be excited about you owning a team?


Again, sourcing MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, Wikipedia or any other propaganda arm of the DNC is not gonna win you any points.

SK, Rush admitted in that same piece you used, which I used earlier, admitted he could have used another analogy.

BTW - has anyone noticed that the singer Fergie is a part owner of the Dolphins? Great lyrics in some of her songs right? Isn't there something about . . . uh, never mind. Family blog right?

dmarks said...

Jim: Fergie owns the Dolphins? I don't begrudge the Duchess of York anything she does with the money she worked so hard to earn.

Arthurstone said...

Thanks for bringing Ken Hutcherson into the discussion. The Seattle area's very own homophobic, reactionary, evangelical, pentecostal, anti-feminist, far right-wing African-American Republican. We get a lot of the Reverend Ken hereabouts when the gays make too much noise the the women folk get a little too big for their britches. He loves a microphone and he loves explaining how God wants YOU to live.

http://www.seattlepi.com/business/346431_antiochmsft08.html

You can always feel the love when ' The Hutch' is around.

Amen.

Jim said...

No, dmarks, not that Fergie!

This Fergie of the Black Eyed Peas! ;-)