In a recent post, using documented evidence, I exposed the lies--that Mr. Obama does not believe this country is at war and that Mr. Obama doesn’t talk about terrorism-- former vice president Dick Cheney chose to spread all over cable teevee and the internet. Now comes the former mayor of New York City, Giuliani, doing the same thing. Counting on people to accept his falsehoods as fact, Giuliani has been shameless in repeating bald faced lies about the number of terrorist attacks during the Bush and Obama administrations.
All of what Mr. A Verb, A Noun, and Nine Eleven claimed has been refuted and shown to be part of what seems to be an effort by out-of-office political hacks to undermine Mr. Obama’s presidency and do this country serious harm. We have enemies plotting to do this country immense damage. Do we really need political has-beens causing additional injury to our country by lying and provoking irrational fear in the population? Do liars like Cheney and Giuliani really believe that no one will check the documented record to see if what they claim is true? Apparently not. While appearing in an interview with George Stephanopolous, Giuliani actually asserted that there were no domestic terrorist attacks during George W. Bush’s presidency. Stephanopolous let that whopper slide by without a follow-up question to discover how Giuliani came to that idiotic conclusion. Stephanopolous has since admitted he was wrong in letting Giuliani get away with such an insane statement.
Most thinking people understand that this country will continue to be under attack abroad and here at home so long as reactionary Muslims perceive us as their mortal enemy. This has been ongoing for decades, and no administration, past or present, has been or is immune to the threat and actual implementation of these attacks. We will have failures in intelligence because human beings are fallible and as a result, people will be hurt, killed because of these heartbreakingly dangerous realities. It may be just politics as usual for contemptible hacks like Cheney and Giuliani to repeat the perverse lie that Mr. Obama does not care about the safety of the American people, but in doing so they undermine every effort the administration is taking to do the best it can to keep us safe.
For the record, here are the facts to demolish the sneering lies of Rudy Giuliani:
Post-9/11 Domestic Terror Attacks During Bush Administration:
Sept-Oct 2001: Anthrax attacks on Congress, NY govt offices, media.
Dec 12, 2001: Foiled plot by Irv Rubin and Earl Krugel to blow up mosque in Culver City, CA, and office of Congressman Darrell Issa (R-CA).
Dec 22, 2001: Shoe Bomber Richard Reid fails to blow up AA Flt 63.
July 4, 2002: Hesham Mohamed Hadayet kills 2 at the El Al ticket counter at LAX.
Oct 2002: Beltway Snipers John Allen Muhammed and Boyd Lee Malvo kill 10; Malvo later testifies attacks motivated by "jihad."
April 2003: White supremacists William Krar, Edith Bruey foiled in the Tyler Poison Gas Plot with huge stockpile of cyanide, 100 conventional bombs, and 500,000 rounds of ammunition.
June 5, 2003: John Noster arrested in LA w/cache of pipe bombs, jet fuel, weapons, and assorted books alleging a worldwide socialist conspiracy.
March 3, 2005: Mohammed Reza Taheri-azana drives an SUV onto a crowded part of campus at UNC at Chapel Hill, injuring 9.
April 3, 2006: Allen Weatherford arrested in MN with cache of weapons, detonation devices, fuel oil, and fertilizer intended to blow up a local courthouse.
July 28, 2006: Naveed Haq kills 1 and hospitalizes 5 in a shooting at the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle.
Aug 30, 2006: Omeed Aziz Popal kills 1 and injures 17 in SUV rampage that began in Fremont, CA, and ended at the Jewish Community Center of SF.
Dec 22, 2006: Derrick Shareef’s "violent jihad" attack on an Illinois shopping mall disrupted by feds.
Feb 12, 2007: Sulejman Talović opens fire at the Trolley Square Mall in Salt Lake City, killing 5, injuring 4, while shouting "Allahu Akbar!"
Not to mention the March 23, 2003 grenade attack by Army Sgt. Hasan Akbar on his fellow members of the 101st Airborne, which killed 2 and wounded 14. That particular attack is not technically "terrorism" because it involved combatants rather than civilians, but then again so did the Right's previous-favorite Obama administration attack, that of Nidal Hassan at Ft. Hood earlier this year. Funny nobody ever mentions Hasan Akbar when they're trying to claim that the Ft. Hood incident proves Obama is soft on terrorism.
h/t Democratic Underground
Watch Larry O’Donnell tear the lies of Rudy Giuliani apart:
32 comments:
Eventually, the smart people will see through these lies. The trouble is that there are very few, if any, smart people on the right.
shaw,
You need to resume comment moderaton. I see the idiots are back spewing their lies and GlennRush stupidity.
I notice the troll call malcontent doesn't link to anything to back up his/her brainless comments.
You link to data that is verifiable, and trolls like malcontent just make shit up and paste it all over people's blogs.
malcontent can't seem to leave you alone, shaw. You bug the crap out of numskulls like him. Keep up the good work and keep irritaating the malcontented jerks of the internet.
Rudy Giuliani--the guy whose best friend is the convicted FELON Bernie Kerik, who he also recommended to be the head of Homeland Security for Bush? Rudy Giuliani, the guy who was screwing his misstress and cheaating on his wife, Donna Hanover, while he was in Gracie Mansion? Rudy Giiuliani? His father was a felon too. Rudy Giuliani, the he-man who loves to dress up in ladies' clothing and have his picture taken? What a classy guy. NOT!
Yeah he's a real American. An American phoney asshole politician if there ever was one.
"A noun, a verb, and 9/11."
Bwahahahahaha.
Shaw: My first beef with this “Undies Bomber” is that so many people are calling it a “failed” attack. In my opinion it was “successful”. He boarded a plane and detonated a bomb, thankfully it didn’t explode. It DID however catch fire and “terrorize” an entire plane full of people. In MY book, that’s TERRORISM.
I don’t blame Obama 100% for this terrorist attack, because the procedures were already in place from the Bush Administration. I DO however blame the people who were monitoring those policies and procedures. THEY failed and failed miserably. THOSE people NEED to be fired ASAP. What good are procedures if they aren’t being followed?
Giuliani, Cheney and everyone else need to state the FACTS, regardless of WHOM they are talking about. The correct response is: We had the WORST terrorist attack on American soil during the Bush Administration and post 9/11 we have been successful in thwarting some attacks, however a few have been successful, but fortunately not nearly as devastating.
Terrorists will NOT stop no matter who is in office. They HATE us and quite frankly I don’t believe Obama is going to change their minds. Closing Gitmo isn’t enough. They hated us before Gitmo was instituted and will hate us after Gitmo is dust in the wind. I don’t know the answer to this dilemma. I’d like to send Snipers to every country where these Terrorists hide and pick them off one at a time, but obviously that’s not going to happen. If I had the answer I’d be one rich woman. So, until we find the ultimate solution, we’re stuck taking off our shoes and getting our bodies scanned at airports.
malcontent,
I have told you not to come here and post your rants. You have a psychological problem that I do not wish to deal with.
Either you are obsessed with me and my blog or you are in desperate need of remedial reading, since you apparently don't comprehend what I have written in plain English.
You have this posted on your blog:
Beware you liberal kooks and Obama knob-slobbing trolls, Beware you America apologists Communist finks. Muslims, and atheist and all other unpatriotic America loathing ass-hats. Reading this blog may cause nausea, vomiting, shortness of breath and other serious damage to your brain.
There is something deeply disturbing about a person who would continue to stalk a liberal --me--after posting this deranged warning on his own blog. And yet you voluntarily and without provocation, return again and again, to my blog.
Coming to this blog to haarass me will not solve your well-deserved feelings of inadequacy nor will it change the fact that you will never be anything more than the bully and internet stalker you have so pathetically demonstrated yourself to be.
Pam,
Thank you for a thoughtful comment. You've made some good points which I'd be happy to discuss with you.
Just now, I need to take a deep breath and go listen to some soothing music.
I'll be back later.
I didn't mean to ignor Leslie .or my friend from SoCal. Thank you for your comments, too. I appreciate them.
I would have never voted for "Rudy" anyway because of a certain show-stopping left-wing view of his. however it did surprise me how terribly bad he did in the debates. Just about any question that was asked of him about any subject was answered with a sentence about how he was such a hero on 9/11. He came across like a real monomanic.
SoCal: I see you are bashing Guiliani for his affairs, as some sort of political disqualification. Are you consistent and do you apply the same thing to Bill Clinton? And then, SoCal, you got into some sort of gay-bashing or cross-dresser bashing or something like that.
So, does your "Yeah he's a real American. An American phoney asshole politician if there ever was one." apply to anyone on the left who is gay or a crossdresser, or cheated on his wife?
The "his friends are felons" accusation completely blows up in your face too, as the current President also has associates who are felons. What major politician doesn't? Your comment would have been better if you had bashed him for something that actually mattered.
Face it, you are bashing Guiliani for something completely irrelevant, and in a hypocritical fashion.
I don't know who the hell chooses as a major issue in voting for someone whether or not he is a "he man" or wears women's underwear, but by doing so you probably find yourself in with a mostly homophobic crowd.
Shaw: Thanks for pointing out Malconcent's "... Muslims, and atheist and all other unpatriotic America loathing ass-hats" comment. Malc is being quite un-American, really, shooting a big hole in the Bill of Rights (freedom of religion). Besides, I know or know of so many patriotic Muslims and Atheists as to prove him wrong so many many many times over.
So, who's the real patriot, here? This heroic American, this Muslim who died for his country? Or Malcontent?
So, Malc, I guess Army Corporal Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan was less of an American than you are, because he's a Muslim? And what of the numerous Atheists in the US military? Not real Americans too?
dmarks, you missed the whole point of my comment. I was mocking malcontent who said Giuliani was more of an American than Obama, and I merely pointed out all of Giuliani's idiocies. There is nothing about slamming gays in my comment. Not all cross-dressers are gay. I was pointing out that Giuliani has no dignity, that he cheated on his wife while entertaining his mistress in Gracie Mansion has NOTHING TO DO WITH CLINTON OR any other politician. My comment was to show the malcontent person that his claim that Giuliani was such a stand-up guy was b.s. Giuliani is a politician with warts and failings like every one else.
And as far as we can tell, Obama is not an adulterer like the other pols you mentioned. My comment is about Giuliani and only Giuliani. Lighten up. Are you shaw's blog policeman???
"Are you shaw's blog policeman???"
Am I telling anyone they can't comment? Of course not.
"that he cheated on his wife while entertaining his mistress in Gracie Mansion has NOTHING TO DO WITH CLINTON OR any other politician"
It's quite on topic: the most famous politician in US history who did pretty much the same thing. The same lack of dignity.
"Not all cross-dressers are gay."
So, feel free to bash cross-dressing, I guess, because some of them are not gay?
"And as far as we can tell, Obama is not an adulterer like the other pols you mentioned"
Yes, never said he was. But when I looked up "associated with felons" on major politicians of both sides, I stopped making a list, as so many were on it. And as for someone's father being a felon, there's no way anyone can be blamed for that.
But I am no fan of Guiliani, even if none of the reasons have to do with possible transgender issues or unfortunate accidents of birth.
You did zing Malc pretty well, I guess. He's not responding. Either he took Shaw's request seriously, or finally did spill his coffee on his laptop.
The A-Hole friend from SoCal said...
Rudy Giuliani--the guy whose best friend is the convicted FELON Bernie Kerik, who he also recommended to be the head of Homeland Security for Bush?
Just like our dear leaders friends like From Barack Hussein Obama Sr. to Marshall Davis Barack Obama’s mentor who was a member of the Communist Party and who Obama calls “Frank” in his memoir “Dreams from My Father,” was an unrepentant communist. He stayed with the Communist Party even after the Hitler-Stalin pact. That’s why he is referred to as “a Stalinist agent.”, to Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn the Weather Underground terrorists, Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, weren't just any '60s radicals. They were communists who openly supported the enemy killing Americans in Vietnam. Some of the members in this group, including Dohrn, had traveled to Havana, Cuba, to get instructions from the communists about how to wage their campaign in the United States.
To Sam Graham Felsen who runs and writes Obama's blog for him, Sam Graham-Felsen writes in a Marxist publications that openly calls for revolution against the American government.
Good old Sammy is a former writer for the leftist Nation magazine and a contributor to the Socialist Viewpoint. He is certainly a believer in class warfare. The product of a Harvard education, Sam is an admirer of anti-American academic Noam Chomsky. Mr. Chomsky is fond of visiting dictators and terrorists and giving speeches that blame the worlds' ills on America. To And let us not forget the very famous Reverend Jeremiah Wright, an anti-American bastard, as his pastor. Wright is one of the most anti American anti-Semitic sob that ever walked the streets of America and who never met a Marist he didn’t love.
Starman417:
First of all, do not denigrate my commenters with childish name-calling. If you want to participate with the grown-ups, act like one. I did not go to your blog and insult you or your commenters.
Secondly, with regard to your comments, Mr. Obama DID NOT NOMINATE Davis, Ayers or any of the people you mentioned to head up any governmental agency or cabinet posts as Giuliani did in promoting his best friend, the felon Bernie Kerik, for a position in Bush’s cabinet, showing his extreme recklessness and poor judgment of character. Your comparisons don’t work here.
When I googled “Barack Obama’s Blog” I found this. Nowhere on the blog is Graham-Felsen mentioned or named. See for yourself. As for your allegation that Felsen called for revolution against the American government, tea baggers and others, such as Michelle Bachmann, have called for revolution against the present US government. Do you believe it is patriotic only when tea bagger call for the overthrow of the government? Your hypocrisy is stunning.
Michele Bachmann:
I want people in Minnesota armed and dangerous on this issue of the energy tax because we need to fight back. Thomas Jefferson told us, having a revolution every now and then is a good thing, and the people — we the people — are going to have to fight back hard if we’re not going to lose our country. And I think this has the potential of changing the dynamic of freedom forever in the United States.
.
Smart Politics notes it’s not the first time since the election of President Obama and a new Democrat-led Congress that Bachmann dubbed her conservative compatriots “foreign correspondents reporting to you from enemy lines.” .
You commented on class warfare.
How would you have labeled Palin, a conservative woman running as McCain’s vp, when she engaged in class warfare by saying the people in rural Virginia were the “real” Americans. That was elitism at its worst. Where did she get off telling us who “real” Americans are? She is the queen of class warfare. Apparently you label political rhetoric as “class warfare” only when liberals engage in it.
Giuliani was a terrible mayor here in NYC,and I'm so relieved he isn't running for anything this year.
"Wright is one of the most anti American anti-Semitic sob that ever walked the streets of America and who never met a Marist he didn’t love."
Did he graduate from there or something?
There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.
Benjamin Disraeli (1804 - 1881)
Beth: You talk about rights. It's my right to choose an abortion and really none of your business or anyone else's.
Beth,
You have no "rights" on MY blog.
Understand?
I administer this blog and choose who can comment and who cannot.
I am not the government, so this does not abrogate your free speech rights.
You have a lot of chutzpah coming here where you are not welcome while at the same time you do not allow me to comment at your blog.
I don't give a flying donut what you think about abortion. It's a legal medical procedure.
Now, I respectfully request that you and your troll friends go back under your bridges and tell each other how mean the liberals are to you.
Oh, I see Beth has already deleted her anti-abortion propaganda.
As we say in Bahstin, she's a pissah!
Beth has been a busy lady today. Apparently she's a new employee of some right-wing outfit and can't take the heat. She deleted her comment on my blog as well.
Hang in there. I simply go ahead and delete without a warning. The rules of the road are in plain sight.
Has Beth been purposely deleting her comments? How rude of me to repost them for her.
She was just back - under "Anon." Hey, I'm not here to babysit.
Isn't posting comments then deleting them yourself kinda like arguing with yourself?
Totally pointless.
Pam,
LOL!
Malcontent: Your continued harassment of this forum is a Terms of Service violation set forth by Blogger™. Go away and stay away. If you continue to comment here, you will be reported for abuse.
Your profile address: http://www.blogger.com/profile/16422498810430959070
Your blog address: http://malcontentralphie.blogspot.com/
Beth: Your continued harassment of this forum is a Terms of Service violation set forth by Blogger™. Go away and stay away. If you continue to comment here, you will be reported for abuse.
Your profile address: http://www.blogger.com/profile/08221274605812695773
Your blog address: http://myprinciples-beth.blogspot.com/
According to Blogger™ :
10. Termination; Suspension. Google may, in its sole discretion, at any time and for any reason, terminate the Service, terminate this Agreement, or suspend or terminate your account. In the event of termination, your account will be disabled and you may not be granted access to your account or any files or other content contained in your account although residual copies of information may remain in our system for some time for back-up purposes. Sections 2, 3, 5 - 8, and 10 - 15 of the Agreement, along with applicable provisions of the general Terms of Service (including the section regarding limitation of liability), shall survive expiration or termination.
Beth and Malcontent: This is what you stand to lose under the Terms of Service agreement if your comment abuse continues.
Good dispatch and this fill someone in on helped me alot in my college assignement. Thanks you on your information.
Post a Comment