Monday, October 7, 2013
A History of the GOP, President Obama, and the A.C.A.
Oct 2008: "You'll never get elected and pass healthcare."
Nov 2008: "We'll never let you pass healthcare."
Jan 2009: "We are going to shout you down every time you try to pass healthcare."
July 2009: "We will fight to the death every attempt you make to pass healthcare."
Dec 2009: "We will destroy you if you even consider passing healthcare."
March 2010: "We can't believe you just passed healthcare."
April 2010: "We are going to overturn healthcare."
Sept 2010: "We are going to repeal healthcare."
Jan 2011: "We are going to destroy healthcare."
Feb 2012: "We are going to elect a candidate who will immediately revoke healthcare."
June 2012: "We will go to the Supreme Court, and they will overturn healthcare."
June 2012: "We can't believe the Supreme Court just upheld healthcare."
Aug 2012: "The American people will never re-elect you, because they don't want healthcare."
Oct 2012: "We can't wait to win the election and explode healthcare."
Nov 2012: "We can't believe you just got re-elected and that we can't repeal healthcare."
Feb 2013: "We're still going to vote to obliterate healthcare."
July 2013: "We're going to vote like 44 more times to erase healthcare."
Sept 2013: "We are going to leverage a government shutdown into defunding, destroying, obliterating, overturning, repealing, dismantling, erasing and ripping apart healthcare."
Oct 2013: "WHY AREN'T YOU NEGOTIATING???"
h/t Matthew Rose
h/t (O)CT(O)PUS (see comments section below).
Carl Bernstein on Morning Joe, Oct. 8, 2013
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Awesome, except that the ACA was upheld by SCOTUS in June 2012, not 2013.
Awesome. Links would be helpful.
Thanks Anon, fixed it.
Well, they are batting 1.000. Five years of perfect failure. That's what the GOP gives you.
J.C., and let's not forget what Mitch McConnell told the country was the GOP's first and most important goal:
Making Mr. Obama a one-term president.
How did that work out, Senator McConnell?
Carl Bernstein Slams Media Coverage of the Shutdown:
Longtime journalist Carl Bernstein on Tuesday called on the press to abandon the false equivalence that's colored much of the coverage of the government shutdown.
Appearing on MSNBC's "Morning Joe," the man who helped break the Watergate scandal said that the current budget impasse is not a two-sided matter. "This is about the Republican Party and what it's going to be," Bernstein said.
"Is it going to conduct a fact-based, philosophical argument in our political system or is it going to be nihilistic, hateful, asymmetrical in terms of facts and the truth part of the party, as in Joe McCarthy?"
(…)
"It's about demagoguery and it needs to be viewed that way," Bernstein said.
Thanks (O)CT(O)PUS, I've put up the video you linked to.
Someone had to tear the false mask of "equivalence" off of the media. Let's hope more journalists like Bernstein call the TeaPublicans what they truly are: Anarchists and a menace to the security of the United States.
Right now herpes is more popular with the American people then the teaPUBLICANS. if you can stomach reading any of the con blogs you'll see they're all stamping their feet because the rest of the country sees them as destructive little 2 year olds. luckily this will damage the asshats but good.
Anarchy is what this country was founded on and it is only anarchy if you disagree.
We are now into the current administration saying SS check may be stopped, we will default on our debt. He has been successful at lowering the US rating once so the second time is a non-issue.
Maybe both sides should tell the truth for once and work toward the best interest of the American people. The attitude of I don't care how long the shutdown lasts because we a winning is not wise coming from the "leaders" camp.
With the thousands of non-essential government employees getting a paid vacation you can't why would they want it to end.
annoysaid..//With the thousands of non-essential government employees getting a paid vacation//
they are NOT getting paid,get with it.
John Boehner, however is getting paid.... $223,500....for not doing his job.
[1] Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
[2] The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the TRUTH, and against his anointed, saying,
[3] Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
[4] He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the TRUTH shall have them in derision.
[5] Then shall TRUTH speak unto them in its wrath, and vex them in itssore displeasure.
[6] Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
[7] I will declare the decree: the TRUTH hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
[8] Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
[9] Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.
[10] Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.
[11] Serve the TRUTH with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
[12] Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in TRUTH.
skud: "Anarchy is what this country was founded on and it is only anarchy if you disagree."
"Anarchy is what this country was founded on...," says skud--a situation of confusion and wild behavior in which people in the colonies were not controlled by rules or laws--a state of lawlessness due to the absence of governmental authority or any established order.
Then he introduces the possibility that maybe the country was NOT founded on anarchy because if you disagree with some existential "something" --he doesn't say what-- then it wasn't.
This is why the TeaPublican Party is nuts. People who have no grasp of history and who are illogical belong to it.
PS. The French Revolution was an example of anarchy; the American Revolution was an example of rebellion.
re·bel·lion noun \ri-ˈbel-yən\
: an effort by many people to change the government or leader of a country by the use of protest or violence
Mr. Free Thinke, you do not tolerate people coming to your blog and posting comments that have nothing to do with the blog post.
Can you explain to us what those Psalm 2 has to do with what the gangsters in the TeaPublican Party are doing to this country?
And would you tolerate someone coming to your blog and posting all sorts of atheist sayings about nonbelief?
“Religion has convinced people that there's an invisible man ... living in the sky. Who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a list of ten specific things he doesn't want you to do. And if you do any of these things, he will send you to a special place, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer, and suffer, and burn, and scream, until the end of time. But he loves you. He loves you. He loves you and he needs money.”
― George Carlin
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
“Being a Humanist means trying to behave decently without expectation of rewards or punishment after you are dead.”
― Kurt Vonnegut
“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.”
― Voltaire, Questions sur les Miracles à M. Claparede, Professeur de Théologie à Genève, par un Proposant: Ou Extrait de Diverses Lettres de M. de Voltaire
There is something infantile in the presumption that somebody else has a responsibility to give your life meaning and point… The truly adult view, by contrast, is that our life is as meaningful, as full and as wonderful as we choose to make it.”
― Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion
“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.”
― Isaac Asimov
scumrunner: “thousands of non-essential government employees getting a paid vacation …”
FACT: Over 800,000 government employees have been furloughed and will not receive a paycheck until the shutdown ends. Many of them have mortgages, medical expenses, college loans, childcare costs, and other bills to pay … and many of them, like so many middle class Americans, live from paycheck to paycheck. For them, this is NO VACATION!
My daughter is a high-ranking officer at the Pentagon, and her husband – my son-in-law – is one of these furloughed government employees. Right now, their income is less than half what it was a week ago, and they are STRUGGLING!
A NEW LOW IN SNARKASM, consider yourself lucky. If you were in this room right now, I’d throw you out … piecemeal!
He that is taught only by himself has a fool for a master.
Hunter S. Thompson
....as long as FT wants to throw out anecdotal personal experiences to equate his own over valued wisdom and his equally overly grandoise opinion of himself and his world view.
IN FACT....IT DOES RELATE to the Republican stance no matter how much he postulates otherwise...it is Republican intransience that is shutting down our political process. Many are using deflection and misdirection to lay the blame on Obama, or using the lame blame, 'both sides'....but it all comes off like a drunk who beats his children and then blames his wife, cause, 'she pissed me off'.
I am tired of fools.
okjimm,
Agreed. Knowing "fallacious facts" requires faith and the desire to look for instances that support your world view, hoping readers have the same desire to support their world view using your "fallacious facts."
One's pay and position in the new fangled think tanks of the far right merely depends on knowing the fallacious facts and spreading them around thus reinforcing the boss' worldview.
Pakistani Muslims Form Human Chain To Protect Christians During Mass
Headline you'll never see on con blogs because all they write about is Muslim hate. Also MUSLIM HATE!
ok
Call it time off with pay then and not a vacation. Violence never solved anything.
Ms Shaw
Instead of just attacking someone with differing views consider
Wikipedia
"There are also other forms of anarchy that attempt to avoid the use of coercion, violence, force and authority, while still producing a productive and desirable society"
LOOK for the SILVER LINING
Verse 1 (Boy)
Please don't be offended
____ if I preach to you awhile,
Tears are out of place in eyes
____ that were meant to smile.
There's a way to make
____ your very biggest troubles small,
Here's the happy secret of it all.
REFRAIN:
Look for the silver lining
When e'er a cloud appears in the blue.
Remember some where the sun is shining,
And so the right thing to do,
Is make it shine for you.
A heart, full of joy and gladness,
Will always banish sadness and strife.
So always look for the silver lining,
And try to find the sunny side of life.
Verse 2 (Girl)
As I wash my dishes,
____ I'll be following your plan,
Till I see the brightness
____ in ev'ry pot and pan.
I am sure your point of view
____ will ease the daily grind,
So I keep repeating in my mind.
REFRAIN:
Look for the silver lining
When e'er a cloud appears in the blue.
Remember some where the sun is shining,
And so the right thing to do,
Is make it shine for you.
A heart, full of joy and gladness,
Will always banish sadness and strife.
So always look for the silver lining,
And try to find the sunny side of life.
From "Till the Clouds Roll By"
"... Whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things"
~ St. Paul writing to the Phillipians.
Tea Party (with apologies to Edna St. Vincent Millay)
For what purpose, Tea Party, do you exist?
Legislation is not enough.
You can no longer amuse me with the redness
Of your rage spreading stickily.
I know what I know.
The sun is hot on my neck as I observe
The spite of your leaders.
The stench of your lies is rancid.
It is apparent that there is no reason.
But what does that signify?
Not only under ground are the brains of men
Eaten by maggots.
Your existence in itself
Is nothing,
An empty cup, a flight of uncarpeted stairs.
It is not enough that since 2010, down this Capitol hill,
you and your insane followers
Come like idiots, babbling and shrieking anarchy .
Party versus patriotism?
There's a rumor floating around. If Boehner allows a CR vote, and a handful of moderate Republicans vote with the Democrats, the rumor is that the GOP may splinter into two parties. Who cares! The country will never accept a party of blackmailers, extortionists, hijackers, and hostage-takers. So Boehner's choice is: Harm the country or harm the party.
"..the rumor is that the GOP may splinter into two parties."
..the Grand Old Party and the
Know Nothings?
The GOP = The Extortionist Party
The GOP = The Cray Cray Party
70% of Americans think the TeaPublicans are assholes!
And the other 30% are the assholes.
The band plays on
Has anybody had luck with ObamaCare sign up yet?
I will assume the learn-id people that read this blog know that the government shutdown is Reid's doing at the instruction of Obama.
The house allocated the necessary funds to keep the government running but wanted a delay in Obamacare. Obama and Reid did not get what they wanted so the shut the government down and blamed the GOP as is their norm.
On October 1, 2013, the United States federal government entered a government shutdown, forcing furloughs of 800,000 workers and suspension of services not exempted by the Antideficiency Act.
Because Congress did not enact regular appropriations or a continuing resolution for the 2014 fiscal year, appropriations have lapsed and about 800,000 federal employees were indefinitely furloughed without pay, while another 1.3 million were required to report to work without pay until an appropriations bill is passed or their function is no longer excepted.
A "funding gap" was created when the two chambers of Congress failed to agree to a compromise continuing resolution. The Republican-led House of Representatives, pressured by conservative groups such as Heritage Action,offered a continuing resolution with language delaying or defunding the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (commonly known as Obamacare).
The Democratic-led Senate stripped the Obamacare language from their version of the measure. Congress was unable to reconcile the bill, allowed funding to lapse and a full-government shutdown began.
IOW, Anon@3:28 is spreading partisan crap where it is not wanted.
The fact is, Anon, that the A.C.A. was passed by both houses of Congress and litigated by the SCOTUS. It was passed the way all bills become LAW in this Republic.
The problem comes when the psychos in the TeaPublican Party will not accept the American way of governance.
They want it THEIR WAY or no way.
Good for President Obama for not letting a minority of a minority blackmail him and the sane citizens in this country into undoing what the American people elected him to do.
You foolish, destructive mobsters can't accept that Barack Hussein Obama was elected TWICE. TWICE. TWICE. by a comfortable margin by the American people, and by that fact, his programs were voted in, one of which was the A.C.A.
Mitt Romeny promised America to repeal the A.C.A. the day he was elected. The American people kicked his ass to the curb and voted to keep the guy who gave us the A.C.A.
You and the rest of your dishonest zombie-TeaPublicans won't accept the will of the American people, and so you've taken to extorting the American form of government to get concessions the majority of the American people don't want. How do I know? See the election of 2012.
Now please don't bother coming back here to spread more of your horseshit.
Thank you.
And have a nice day.
But just in case you feel compelled to return and leave more of the same, let me allow the redoubable Capt. Fogg of The Swash Zone to set your crooked little mind straight.
Capt. Fogg, responding to another Anonymous commenter over at The Swash Zone, who thinks the TeaPublicans are being resonable:
Take it away Captain:
"One more time, you insisted that this was just a case of two equally valid positions held by intransigent partisans and nothing more. That's not true. ITS A CASE OF THE LAW BEING IGNORED, SCOFFED AT AND OBSTRUCTED BY PARTISANS IGNORING THE DUTIES OF THEIR OFFICE AND BEING PAYED TO DO SO BY PARTIES FOR WHOM THE LAW IS INCONVENIENT. Because this is not true, you are wrong and you lose the argument, if we can call it one.
1. ITS THE GODDAMN LAW PASSED BY CONGRESS, SIGNED BY THE PRESIDENT AND CERTIFIED BY THE SUPREME COURT.
2. YOU DON'T GET TO BARGAIN THE LAW INTO GOING AWAY OR CHANGING. TO SUIT THE PARTY THAT FAILED TO BLOCK IT IN CONGRESS.
3. THE LAW IS NOT OPTIONAL AND APPLIES TO EVERYONE, LIKE IT OR NOT.
4. LEGAL MEANS EXISTS FOR THE REPUBLICANS TO HAVE REPEALED THE LAW BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE THE VOTES OR THE POPULAR SUPPORT. YOU LOSE MEANS YOU LOST.
THEREFORE, FINALLY AND QUOD ERAT DEMONSTRANDUM, IT IS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY MAKING DEMANDS THAT THE LAW BE IGNORED OR ILLEGALLY NULLIFIED BY A PRESIDENT WHO ACTUALLY HAS NO POWER TO DO SO. A demand that the law be implemented is not a partisan position. A demand that the law be ignored is not only a partisan position, it's pissing on Democracy. Even a dust mite can understand this and if you don't it's because you're a partisan parrot and incapable of admitting you've lost this argument because you never had one to argue.
How can I shout it so even the pinhead TeaTwits can understand? The law is, ipso facto a demand. The law is the law, you obey it or else: you pay your taxes whether you like what the government is doing with the money or not.
Of course the answer is that you're not honest and you're not making an honest case or a case consistent with the American system of American values. You're making the same detestable arguments behind the Nullification movement, the Civil war. Is it because you're too damned ignorant or too damned dishonest -- or that you, as I suggested think we're all stupid?
You are free to vote, free to campaign. You are even free to lie, but you are not free to demand that the law be set aside because you or your Confederate friends don't like it.
You can't reason with lunatics.
Galloping progressives. Taking it to the streets.
The TeaPublicans are taking Obamacare out of the debt ceiling negotiations.
They blinked.
They were stupid to go there in the first place.
The Stupid Party earns its name once again!
Lets see, they all came up with the sequester idea, blamed it on each other, said it would never be allowed to become law because it was so destructive, and now have apparently agreed to implement the mfer anyway. Now they come to us and tell us they want to form another mfing committee, like the one that came up with the fckng sequester, to come up with MORE gd cuts? I think it is past time for the dems to call in the dog catchers, they should just say you fund the government, eliminate the debt ceiling, and restore the budget back to pre-sequester levels and we can talk, until then pound sand you sorry bastards. They should make this proclamation on the national stage, and let the fckng chips fall where they may.
Hey you veteran-loving phony TeaPubs, cry us a fekken river:
In SEPTEMBER, the Pentagon told the Republicans about the service men's survivors benefits going unfunded if they shut down the government, and they shut it down anyway.
Yup. Brilliant. By all means please do.
Right, you can't.
Scrap the extention for business and end waivers then.
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