Saturday, February 22, 2014
The TeaPublicans' Hero, Ted Nugent, Sings "Jailbait."
Your modern Republican Party has embraced the guy who proudly sang this song:
I've got no inhibitions
So keep your keys out of your ignition
I steal a car like I got the curse
I can't resist the old lady's purse
Jailbait you look so good to me
Jailbait won't you set me free
Jailbait you look fine fine fine
I know I've got to have you in a matter of time
Well I don't care if you're just thirteen
You look too good to be true
I just know that you're probably clean
There's one lil' thing I got do to you
Jailbait you look so good to me
Jailbait won't you set me free
Jailbait you look fine fine fine
Nuget doesn't appeal to the crazy "fringe" of the GOP. He has been embraced by no less than Mitt Romney, who ran for POTUS, by Sarah Palin, who hoped to be VPOTUS, a former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, the guy who's running for governor of the state of Texas, and the GOP's newest presidential hopeful, Ted Cruz.
Every one of those mainstream and admired Gee-Oh-Pee-ers consider Ted Nugent a "friend" and have no problem with him and his brand of rhetoric.
The T-GOP owns Ted Nugent. He's a great representative of its character.
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What you're talking about is guilt by association. I wonder if the party leaders you point out actually really knew the real Ted Nugent in all his full idiocy. Or were they just enamored of his strong 2'nd amendment advocacy and wrapping himself in the Red, White, and Blue.
Politicians, for the most part are political opportunists. Perhaps they befriended Nugent because they knew he appealed to firearms (of all types) ownership and saw this a big plus. Without checking into his shady rather degenerate character.
Having said that, after his most recent statement it is puzzling why there hasn't been uniform denunciation in the strongest language of Nugent and his brand of BS and hate.
Because of the relative silence of the leadership it is now reasonable to believe
that even if they don't agree with him they are willing to look the other way. With all the publicity Nugent has received it is almost impossible for anyone to NOT know his character.
Nugent has the same 1'st amendment rights we all have and that includes the right to be stupid and make idiotic politically motivated statements that are not only ignorant but asinine.
The right of free speech extends to remaining silent as well. Sometimes silence speaks louder than words.
I suppose I've rambled a bit. So of I have
thanks for indulging me.
RN: "What you're talking about is guilt by association. I wonder if the party leaders you point out actually really knew the real Ted Nugent in all his full idiocy."
RN, Nugent has been acting like a fool and mouthing disgusting invective since Mr Obama was elected president. This isn't new. Those leaders in the GOP could NOT have missed his manic outbursts and inflammatory taunts.
He has a following of the LEADERS of the GOP, not the fringe. That's not "guilt by association," that is REAL ASSOCIATION by people like Romney, Palin, Cruz, Abbott, Perry, Gingrich, who showed no leadership qualities in failing to denounce Nugent's filth.
No one here denies Nugent his right to say stupid things. And because the leaders in the Republican Party did not come out and strongly denounce his latest sewerage, they own him.
Nugent is the Modern Republican Party.
I do believe my final two paragraphs, excluding the closing, pretty much covered it. Which at least for me is the intetesting factor. The republican and TP leadership Don't get it.
nuts like nugent do a real service to democrats like obama. the hard core right will stick with the republicans and the hard core left will stick with the democrats but the free thinking centrists will move towards the democrats when lunatics like nugent and the like open their big mouths.
Hey billy! long time no see!
Congratulations to Canada on its Olympic hockey wins. I cried with our U.S. teams, but if we had to lose to a country, I'm glad it was Canada!
And yes, the GOPers don't get it. When it cozies up to crazies like Nugent, they lose the Independents.
Hell. The GOPers should lose ALL sane voters when it accepts him as representative of their party.
RN... maybe you should have said, "because of the relative silence, it is now reasonable to believe they agree with Nugent.
Can anyone tell me, absent a full throated denunciation from GOP leaders, why we should believe they do not embrace his viewpoint, and his values?
Skud? Anon? Anyone?
Ted Nugent embodies the center of the GOP and conservative politics in the US today.
And before the right brings up Jeremiah Wright and the former terrorist Bill Ayers, let's remember that President Obama publicly denounced Wright and put significant distance between himself and Mr. Ayers.
Billy, you hit the nail on the head... this is death for all seven centrists still remaining in the GOP...
RN: Having said that, after his most recent statement it is puzzling why there hasn't been uniform denunciation in the strongest language of Nugent and his brand of BS and hate.
Too much of the Republican voting base thinks that way -- "subhuman mongrel", etc. Not all of them, but too many for a politician to risk alienating.
There's a substantial constituency of people out there who are perfectly OK with Nugent, otherwise he wouldn't be a star. Apparently people like Greg Abbott don't want to risk losing the votes of those people by denouncing his attitudes too openly.
I'm not impressed by Nugent's quasi-apology, either. Nobody's naïve enough to be unaware of the effect that words like "subhuman mongrel" have. Nugent would not have said those words unless he meant them.
Shaw, they will. Either way though we're screwed. One party government is not a thing to be desired. Intelligent, rational, dispassionate discussion and debate on diverse issues between TWO or more parties is.
Bada Bing, I rest my case.
I agree with you Infidel753. Nugent meant them, and by their silence one can deduce from their silence the republican leadership and the TP leaders agree.
Indeed a sad era in the American two party system.
yes, our national team is doing well but i'd rather have a stanley cup!
Ted Nugent "apologizes", audio from WBAP's The Ben Ferguson show via Media Matters...
Ted: ...they want me to apologize for using street fighter terminology like subhuman mongrels, but that Leftist, mindless, soulless, unprofessional dishonest media will constantly level allegations of pedophile and draft dodger toward me, and no one seems to mind that they lie, while I'm just using metaphor street language to describe corrupt power-abusing elected officials who break their vow - violate their vow to the Constitution. Yeah, there is some social justice for you...
Ben Ferguson: Did you cross a line by calling the president of the United States that, and, if you saw Barack Obama, would you apologize to him for saying that about him.
Ted: Yes, I would. I did cross a line, I would apologize. Not necessarily to the president, but on behalf of much better men than myself. Like the best governor, Rick Perry... [also Louie Gohmert and Ted Cruz]. ... I apologize for using the street fighter terminology of "subhuman mongrel" instead of using just more understandable language, such as "violator of his oath to the Constitution". The liar that he is, the president lied when he said we could keep our doctors, we may retain our health care, period. ... I will try to elevate my vernacular to the level of those great men that I am learning from in the world of politics.
Also, Media Matters reports that "Top Republicans Condemn Ted Nugent's Subhuman Mongrel Comment", although it does note that "the vast majority of conservative media... has remained silent on Nugent's offensive comment about Obama. As MSNBC and CNN began covering the brewing controversy on February 18, Fox News ignored the story altogether. According to a search of internal video archives, Fox has still yet to weigh in on what has become a national story".
Rick Perry said "That's Ted Nugent... That's just Ted. Anybody that's offended - sorry, but that's just Ted". But Rick must have realized he couldn't get away with "shrugging off" the deeply offensive slur, because he later said Nugent "shouldn't have said that about the President of the United States ... I got a problem calling the president a mongrel. I do have a problem with that. That is an inappropriate thing to say" according to the 2/21/2014 Media Matters article.
So, it took awhile but apparently some Republicans are starting to condemn the comments. Ted Cruz, John McCain, Randal Paul and Newt Gingrich are named in the MM article. Randal tweeted Ted Nugent's derogatory description of President Obama is offensive and has no place in politics. He should apologize". However, reading that Randal weighed in on the topic reminded me that the Pauls (both of them) have a history of voicing disagreement with civil rights legislation.
Don't count Paula Deen out just yet, y'all.
Finally---some good news, I by no means condone racism, but I think what they did to Paula was way out of line!. Other celebrities, especially Black celebrities have done similar or worse and had it not impact their lives at all...
Nugent's 'apology' is mere tripe. He is an ass and has been one for quite some time.
RN.."What you're talking about is guilt by association. I wonder if the party leaders you point out actually really knew the real Ted Nugent in all his full idiocy."
well, ya. 1) they did not vette him for his views and opinions before they invited him on a national stage???? 2} it sure is hard to 'associate' with bullshit and stink and not have some stick to you.
I know you abhor Nugent and I think every one else on this forum does to, but don't become an apologist for those who invited him. Not merely for his second amendment views (Nugent's]
course that is just my opinion...and I have developed a rather cynical view of opinions....starting with my own.
Me, an apologist? Hardly. That was merely an original point giving the benefit of the doubt. That's me.
Now there is no reason to extend the benefit further. Anybody who defends him, campaigns with him, and supports him confirms they are just like him.
Like I said he (they) have the right to be stupid and bigoted. The rest of us have the right to criticize and mock him (them) with gusto...
... and I'm not a democrat.
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