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Thursday, March 6, 2014
So you want to get cofirmed by the U.S. Senate for a political appointment?
UPDATE BELOW
Well, if it's for a position in the Justice Department, for gawdsakes, don't be a lawyer!
Seven Senate Democrats joined the Republicans in denying President Obama's choice, Debo Adegbile, to head the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division because he represented a convicted cop killer. IOW, Attorney Adegbile was practicing US law, so that disqualified him?
"Lawyers hoping for a political appointment in the future, take note: the U.S. Senate is now judging attorneys based on their representation of politically unpopular clients.
In a move sure to rattle the legal community, a majority of senators voted Wednesday to block the confirmation of a respected civil rights lawyer to a top Justice Department spot because he helped get a convicted murderer off death row.
All Republicans and a handful of Democrats voted to sink Debo Adegbile’s nomination to lead the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division.
The overriding reason for their opposition was that he once represented Mumia Abu-Jamal, a death row inmate convicted 30 years ago of killing a Philadelphia police officer.
Adegbile did not make the decision to take on the case. When he became the head of the NAACP Legal Defense and Education Fund in 2012, the group was already representing Abu-Jamal, and Adegbile continued to do so on a narrow constitutional issue. In other words, he was just doing his job by advocating for his client."
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"Ahead of the vote, members of the Bar of the Supreme Court warned senators against sinking Adegbile’s confirmation based on his representation of Abu-Jamal.
In a January letter to Leahy and Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), the ranking member of the Judiciary Committee, they argued that taking such action could send the wrong message to attorneys everywhere. “LDF’s advocacy on behalf of Mr. Abu-Jamal does not disqualify Mr. Adegbile from leading the Civil Rights Division,” reads the letter.
“To conclude otherwise would send the wrong message to any lawyer who is affiliated, or might be asked to become involved, with a difficult, unpopular case for the purpose of enforcing and preserving important constitutional principles.”
Would the Senate Democrats and Republicans have voted against the confirmation of Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, John Roberts? In his career, he did pro bono work and defended a mass murderer.
"In 2008, a federal appeals court unanimously held — with two Reagan appointees on the panel — that procedures used during a convicted cop killer named Mumia Abu-Jamal’s death penalty hearing violated the Constitution.
Specifically, the panel of predominantly Republican judges concluded that the trial judge gave the jury a confusing form that could have been read to require a death sentence unless every single juror agreed to a life sentence.
The NAACP LDF filed an amicus brief on Abu-Jamal’s behalf. At least one of the Democrats who opposed Adegbile, Sen. Casey, cited his work to overturn this unconstitutional death sentence as the reason for his opposition.
As MSNBC’s Adam Serwer points out, the Senate was not always so critical of lawyers who help bad people fight potentially unconstitutional death sentences. Indeed, as an attorney in private practice,
Chief Justice John Roberts “devoted 25 pro bono hours” to representing a mass murderer recently executed in Florida.--Think Progress
This is foolish and incredibly stupid. The seven Democrats are cowards and should be ashamed of themselves for denying a well-qualified lawyer because he did his job as a lawyer in his limited representation of the defendant. Work, by the way, that is guaranteed by the US Constitution.
What would those Democrats and Republicans have done with our second president, John Adams. People apparently do not read history. John Adams defended the British soldiers who were involved in the Boston Massacre. He won that case, from which he was famously quoted, "Facts are stubborn things," And he was castigated for doing so and terribly unpopular with the colonial patriots at the time. Adams defended the hated British! Would those Democrats and Republicans have denied John Adams the presidency because he did his job?
There is no reason except cowardice on the part of the Democrats and the Republicans' usual obstruction to deny a lawyer who practices law under our Constitution and who is clearly qualified for the position in the Justice Department.
UPDATE:
James R. Silkenat, president of the American Bar Association (ABA):
"As the Senate Judiciary Committee prepares to deliberate over the nomination of Debo Adegbile to be Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division, I write to address the criticism this nominee has received regarding the legal representation he provided to a death-sentenced prisoner.
A fundamental tenet of our justice system and our Constitution is that anyone who faces loss of liberty has a right to legal counsel. Lawyers have an ethical obligation to uphold that principle and provide zealous representation to people who otherwise would stand alone against the power and resources of the government - even to those accused or convicted of terrible crimes.
The American people understand this obligation, and the corollary principle stated in rule 1.2(b) of the ABA Model Rules of Professional Conduct that "[a] lawyer's representation of a client does not constitute an endorsement of the client's political, economic, social or moral views or activities."
I was alarmed to learn that there is some opposition to Mr. Adegbile's nomination based solely on his efforts to protect the fundamental rights of an unpopular client while working at the Legal Defense Fund.
His work, like the work of ABA members who provide thousands of hours of pro bono legal services every year, is consistent with the finest tradition of this country's legal profession and should be commended, not condemned. [American Bar Association, 1/13/14]" --M.M.
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"There is no reason except cowardice on the part of the Democrats and the Republicans' usual obstruction to deny a lawyer who practices law under our Constitution and who is clearly qualified for the position in the Justice Department."
Well, apparently 7 independent thinking democrats jponed republicans in this vote.
Can we anticipate every time there is a disagreement with party dogma (democrat/progressive) and independent individuals break party rank we can expect to hear the charge of "coward(s)?"
Hm, interesting choice of terms. Seems a bit hyperbolic and a smidgen off key to me.
But the vote is in, the decision made. Time to move on.
Oh, and the more liberal progressive legal minds are well represented in the DOJ as it is. We do need differencing views and opinions if our republic is to remain strong.
Carry on...
The President could find a cure for all cancer, institue World Peach, and get the Cleveland Browns to the Super Bowl....
...and this Republican Party would obstruct it cause he can't nail jello to a wall. stuff.
Debo would make a fine ambassador to Argentina.
"Can we anticipate every time there is a disagreement with party dogma (democrat/progressive) and independent individuals break party rank we can expect to hear the charge of 'coward(s)?' "
The vote on this nominee had nothing to do with "party dogma." This was a nominee eminently well qualified for the position. The opposition came from folks (Dems and Repubs) who didn't like the fact that he was involved with an unpopular law case.
You did not address any of the points I brought up, nor did you address the points made by members of the Bar of the Supreme Court:
"...taking such action could send the wrong message to attorneys everywhere. 'LDF’s advocacy on behalf of Mr. Abu-Jamal does not disqualify Mr. Adegbile from leading the Civil Rights Division. To conclude otherwise would send the wrong message to any lawyer who is affiliated, or might be asked to become involved, with a difficult, unpopular case for the purpose of enforcing and preserving important constitutional principles.”
We're not discussing "dogma," we're discussing a man who was limited in his involvement in the defense of criminal who committed a heinous crime.
That does NOT disqualify him. He was doing his job as was given to him. Did you not read the post?
I stand by my characterization of the Dems and the Repubs who, IMO, made a knee-jerk decision (some, because of electoral politics coming this year) instead of doing the right thing.
You didn't have anything to say about Chief Justice Roberts' pro bono work for a mass murderer? The John Adams case? What is your opinion on those points?
This nomination process was never about "differing views." It's about disqualifying a supremely well-qualified litigator just because he handled a hot-button legal case.
Cowardly vote, IMO.
"Sen. Chris Coons (D-Del.), who is facing reelection this year and whose state sits within the Philadelphia media market, said he thought Adegbile was well-qualified for the position, but was concerned that he would face "visceral opposition from law enforcement on his first day on the job," citing the opposition to his nomination by several law enforcement organizations."
There's no "dogma" involved in that Democrat's decision. It's politics all the way down.
Shaw, some of the votes against this nominee specifically stated that their opposition was based on his representation of Mumia Abu-Jamal.
That to me is ridiculous... does that mean anyone who represents death penalty clients is forever DQ'ed from certain public service jobs?
How do we determine at level that disqualification should kick in?
RN, if you define these 7 Dems as independent thinkers on the basis that they defied the majority of their party, one would have to conclude that for the most part, the GOP has no independent thinkers.
Adegbile was not himself a cop-killer. He didn’t help a cop-killer get off and roam free with false claims of innocence. What he did do—which fits pretty readily within the historic mandate of the NAACP’s Legal Defense Fund—was to help ensure that the American criminal justice system, and especially the death penalty, is administered fairly and constitutionally. As a representative of an organization that is institutionally dedicated to ensuring that justice is administered fairly, he fought for fairness and (totally unfair!) judges agreed that unfairness occurred.
How times change:
"As long as a nominee is otherwise
qualified, the nominee's personal philosophy
should not be a consideration
unless that philosophy undermines
the fundamental principles of our constitutional
system or the nominee's
dedication to his or her ideological principles is so strong that he or she
cannot be an impartial judge. In the absence of such concerns, the Senate must respect the right of a President to nominate qualified candidates of his choosing. "
..confirmation of Antonin Scalia,
IMO, one of the most biased jurists to sit on the Supreme Court.
Shaw is 100% correct that they are political cowards Les. What is more, they are stupid. The people who wouldn't vote for them because they voted in favor of a lawyer who did his job won't vote for them anyway.
And they wonder why the Democratic Party is broken.
Hahahahhahahahahahahahah! You've got the BEST conlurkers!
Hahahaaaaaaahahahahaha!
"RN, if you define these 7 Dems as independent thinkers on the basis that they defied the majority of their party, one would have to conclude that for the most part, the GOP has no independent thinkers."
Well Dave, You're not seeing me argue that one.
"Obama called the vote against Adegbile a 'travesty,' and accused lawmakers of succumbing to 'wildly unfair character attacks against a good and qualified public servant.' What else could anyone have expected the Racist president to say!"
Good post Shaw... and yet this is nothing compared to the GOP preferring Putin as President over Obama...
I feel like I am living in some lost world when even Les agrees that the GOP is a bunch of unthinking people.
Here's what i am wondering... is it possible that the real independents in our country are the sane, reasonable, moderate supporters of the "old" GOP?
Maybe the GOP as a party has devolved into just a formalized branch of the pissed off angry bloggers who claim the mantle of "true" conservatives.
I've got to think there is some truth to that view when you get 100% lock step votes on anything.
Really? No dissension? Not even one vote?
Wow...
Unrelated, but it looks like I have been welcomed to the "Some idiot with too much time on their hands decided to recreate my web presence" Club...
JA!
Dave: "Unrelated, but it looks like I have been welcomed to the "Some idiot with too much time on their hands decided to recreate my web presence" Club..."
Oh Crikey! That means you've arrived. I've got FIVE idiots pretending to be me. Keep up the good work, Dave, p.o.ing idiots is a positive thing.
TYF, conlurkers?
Should I be proud?
StCs, that is especially stupid.
Joe, I hate to agree, but you're correct. BTW, where have you been? We miss your cutting wit and incisive take on the cray-crays of the right.
BB-Idaho,
In a rational world this nominee would have had no problem.
We're no longer a rational nation.
(Sorry, RN,)
billy? Great to see you here. But, Argentina?
RN, I stand by what I've written. We can agree to disagree. And wonder of wonders, we can do it without trashing one another! How is that possible?
okjimm, I practiced nailing jello to the wall all afternoon, and all I got was a slimey wall and a sore thumb.
So was Bork
Would making an extremely thick sticky jello, with guick set glue as an ingredient work do you think?
Oh, BTW Shaw, you wouldn't be you if you didn't stand by what you wrote.
Rational people don't trash other rational people over a disagreement. As we know though not everyone sees it that way. Would that make them irrational?
Actually, we've been under attack by communist democrats since 1963 when LBJ took over and not a Nonobyte has ever been reversed.
"Would that make them irrational?"
Oui!
And now for my nightcap of single malt Scotch.
And a very good book.
Nighty-night all.
Didn't see SUAGMABeak! didn't see that before I posted.
Very funny.
g'night.
"Representing murderers hasn’t proved disqualifying before – Republicans confirmed John Roberts as chief justice of the Supreme Court despite his pro-bono work on behalf of a man recently executed for mass murder. When they choose to, Republicans understand that an attorney shouldn’t be identified with his client’s cause. That would prevent top lawyers from defending unpopular clients, which would erode the quality of justice for those accused of terrible crimes.
None of the senators who cast votes against Adegbile, however, will ever have to worry about not being able to afford a fair shake in court.
“Mr. Adegbile played by the rules,” President Obama said in a statement following the vote. “And now Washington politics have used the rules against him.”
re: nailing jello
actually used to bring some home from the Catholic School cafeteria....when I got enough home....Dad shingled a whole garage roof with the stuff.
.....but after that he couldn't park the car inside the entire Lent season. ohohoh...Mom would use it to border the flower beds....Like she always said..."Your father nevered promised me a rose garden."
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