Paul Revere by Cyrus Dallin, North End, Boston

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Wednesday, November 1, 2017

"You bet there's collusion." -- Conservative Max Boot

UPDATE:

From defunding Mueller's investigation to outright firing him, Trump's advisors, Steve Bannon and Roger Stone, are urging Trump to "DO SOMETHING!"

Panic in the White House!, and there are no good options for this crooked president and his regime.

READ IT HERE.






Don't believe the Trumpsters or FAUX NOOZ when they pretend the indictments on Monday are "nothing burgers." The Manafort, Gates indictments and  Papadopolous felony charges are serious, serious, serious. That's why so many Trumpsters are making so much noise to distract.

No one with any intelligence can seriously say the Mueller investigation is a witch hunt. 

Stay tuned.



via Daily Kos

Max Boot/NY Daily News


 "You bet there's collusion: 

And other reasons Donald Trump should be nervous after Robert Mueller's indictments It is not every day that a president’s former campaign manager and another campaign worker are indicted on felony charges. In fact the last time it happened was 1974, when Nixon’s campaign manager John Mitchell was indicted. Trump’s claims that “this is years ago, before Paul Manafort was part of the Trump campaign,” aren’t true. 

The indictment says that the money laundering and conspiracy for which Manafort and his associate Rick Gates are being charged continued “through at least 2016” — i.e., through the period, from March 29 to August 19, 2016, when Manafort was working for Trump. Gates remained at the campaign even after Manafort was ousted. Trump’s other claim — “Also, there is NO COLLUSION!” — is marginally more compelling, insofar as it’s true that the indictment of Manafort and Gates does not accuse the Trump campaign of colluding with the Kremlin. 

But that’s like Al Capone bragging that his indictment didn’t say anything about racketeering. Money laundering and tax evasion are offenses that prosecutors charge in order to nail a suspect for a whole range of other egregious behavior."

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"The contention that there is “NO COLLUSION” became even less compelling a few minutes after the Manafort and Gates indictments when Mueller unveiled another blockbuster indictment: Former campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos pled guilty to lying to FBI agents about his efforts to solicit “dirt” on Hillary Clinton from an unnamed “professor” in London who was closely connected to the Kremlin. According to the indictment, “The Professor” told Papadopoulos in April 2016 that the Russians “ ‘have dirt on her’; ‘the Russians had emails of Clinton’; ‘they have thousands of emails.’” 

 Note that the Russian hacking had only occurred in March and did not become public until June. So Papadopoulos clearly was in touch with someone who had access to top-secret details of the Russian plot to influence the U.S. election—and Papadopoulos let his superiors at the campaign know what he was up to. In other words, he was as eager for Vladimir Putin’s help as Donald Trump Jr. was when he wrote “I love it” on June 3, 2016, in response to another offer of incriminating information on Hillary from another Russian emissary. 

If this isn’t collusion, then the word has lost any meaning. It is important to keep in mind, moreover, that we have seen only a small portion of the evidence that Mueller is accumulating. What has been reported in the media is damning enough. Just last week, for example, we learned that the head of Cambridge Analytica, the data firm paid $5.9 million by the Trump campaign, contacted Julian Assange of Wikileaks to ask for help in finding Hillary Clinton’s emails. Just imagine how much Mueller knows that isn’t public knowledge. No one in the media, for example, was talking about Papadopoulos until Monday. Mueller will learn even more if he can “flip” more of his “targets” and turn them into cooperating witnesses against the president — something that has already happened with Papadopoulos."

22 comments:

Anonymous said...

This Russia chimera us STRICTLY a DIVERSIONARY TACTIC dreamt up by crazed, short-sighted, narrow-minded, power-mad ZEALOTS and partisan BIGOTS who are OBSESSED with the stupid notion that hounding President Trump from Office should be our primary order of business.

Speaking metaphorically it's the Romans and the Jews crucifying Our Savior all over again.

Shaw Kenawe said...

P.E. readers, I published this comment found in moderationl this morning just so others can see how deluded some Trumpsters are.

Clearwater, Florida said...


The right wing hysterics are relieved that the New York aattacked happened on Tuesday so they don't have to think about the crimianls in the Trump regime.

Infidel753 said...

But he wrote his comment in boldface and put some of the words in all capitals! That automatically makes it right -- doesn't it?

It's a hallmark of the foolish or at least the untested, that they mistake their own vehemence for evidence supporting the truth of whatever they are saying. Trump was doing the same thing when he put NO COLLUSION! in all capitals.

The Papadopoulos revelations are enough to establish collusion by the campaign, though not yet by Trump personally. More evidence will come. Mueller is just getting started.

Dave Miller said...

Shaw... freethinke and his sock puppets?

Ppl are saying the one guy who pled guilty was wearing a wire for some of his meetings with Trump and the Cabinet.

Maybe Trump was bugged. And if so, I'll be the first to say we were wrong to doubt him, but thank God he was...

okjimm said...

ha! dialogue in a thread on FB: "this shouldn't be a bashing of Presidents. We as a nation will never accomplish anything positive as long as we are divided. Idiot or not, he is the leader of this country. Shame on us for such disrespect. We were taught better as children!" I had called trump an idiot and the response is 'so what'? Boy, sure can't fix stupid.

Shaw Kenawe said...

Dave: "Shaw... freethinke and his sock puppets?"

I don't know. I get "Anonymous" comments every day. It could be someone copying or imitating other bloggers. I don't know who left the comment, but it is an example of Trump's followers pretending what was revealed on Monday are serious charges. We all know that if this had been President Obama's campaign manager being charged in October of 2009, the same person who copied that comment would be screaming for Mr. Obama's impeachment.



Dave: "Ppl are saying the one guy who pled guilty was wearing a wire for some of his meetings with Trump and the Cabinet.

Maybe Trump was bugged. And if so, I'll be the first to say we were wrong to doubt him, but thank God he was..."

Trump claimed President Obama wiretapped his Trump Tower, which IS a lie. If Mueller wired Papadopolous, it was done legally. Everyone who's talked to Papadopolous since Mueller flipped him should be soiling their undies by now.

Shaw Kenawe said...

Clearwater, The Trumpistas use anything to distract from the horrible news about their president.

Infidel753, #45's people haven't been able to pry his little tweeting fingers from his phone, and that's good for us who can watch him deteriorate into an ugly mess of shouted harangues and bullying. ALL IN CAPS!

okjimm "Idiot or not he is the leader of this country." Does the person who wrote that understand how foolish he/she is? Would he/she say "Idiot or not, he is my brain surgeon?" "Idiot or not he is the pilot of this plane." Why does anyone think we need to be respectful and accept an "idiot" as the head of our country with the power to plunge us into a deadly world war?

Clearwater, Florida said...


From the Vanity Fair link in Shaw's post:

*"Here’s what Manafort’s indictment tells me: Mueller is going to go over every financial dealing of Jared Kushner and the Trump Organization," said former Trump campaign aide Sam Nunberg."Trump is at 33 percent in Gallup. You can’t go any lower. He’s fucked."

Are Trump;s fans tired of this kind of winning?

Shaw Kenawe said...


Clearwater, I have to think Sam Nunberg knows what he's talking about. I also read this (not in Vanity Fair):

Department of Justice confirms that if indicted Trump will be tried as an adult

LOL!

Ducky's here said...

ooops, looks like Beauregard's in the poo poo

Popcorn, shaw?

Funny, it's been quit on the mothership lately.

Infidel753 said...

From defunding Mueller's investigation to outright firing him, Trump's advisors, Steve Bannon and Roger Stone, are urging Trump to "DO SOMETHING!"

Plenty of well-worth-reading stuff at that link. Here is some more. A sizable bloc of Republicans in Congress is determined to protect Mueller from any effort by Trump to squelch the investigation. And remember, we don't need all of them on board to protect Mueller or even to bring about impeachment. We only need enough to reach the necessary majorities in combination with all the Democrats.

The end-game could be closer than we realize. Mueller is working slowly and methodically, but if Trump is really freaking out that badly, he could easily do something that would precipitate his own downfall. I just hope that something doesn't involve starting a war in an effort at distraction.

Shaw Kenawe said...


DuckyJeff Sessions lied to Congress about his meeting with Russians, another high profile liar in the Trump administrations.

Apparently a lot of the passengers on the MotherShip are still pretending that Russiagate is a hoax, Mueller is on a witchhunt, and that Hillary will end up in jail. Pathetic.

Infiden753, Trump is not a mentally stable man, nor is he smart. He allowed his naive son-in-law who knows nothing about government to talk him into firing Comey -- even Bannon called that the single most stupid move of Trump's presidency. According to the Vanity Fair article, Trump is fuming over his stupid decision, blaming everyone but himself. No savvy, smart politician would have made such a catastrophic move. His supporters thought he'd make a fab president because he wasn't a politician. Look where that got him.

Dervish Sanders said...

First comment sounds like it could be FT. He posts lots of Bible verses in bold with many capped words. His lectures to commenters he disagrees with. I don't understand how so many people (many supposed Christians) could have this view of such an obvious fraud.

Why accept Anonymous comments? I ditched that option on my blog and it's never coming back. As well as the name/url option which allows people to fake comments from another. Not that anyone comments on my blog. On the blog FT frequents people say the most horrible things and it's always Anon.

Shaw Kenawe said...

Thanks for the comment, D.S. I don't think F.T. would comment here anonymously, he always uses his own name, so "Anon" above is probably someone else and I posted the comment as an example of how faar right Trump supporters think about the Mueller investigation.

I don't get that many commenters, so I choose to allow Anonymouse and URL/name for those who don't have a blog ID. So far it works for P.E.

Bob said...

Dear Dumbass President Trump,

Calling for the death penalty for the NY terrorist before he's even on trial is a good way for his lawyers to claim he can't get a fair trial. Only an idiot who knows nothing about our judicial system and laws would shoot off his mouth and say something as irresponsible as that. Trump is a walking talking moron and the GOP elected him to lead the most powerful country in the world?

Dear God!

Kevin Robbins said...

Shaw, thanks for that first comment. I think they're gonna need a heavy duty cross and nails to crucify the new Savior.

I was going to comment on Jeff Bo, too. He should know better than to lie to Congress. i think they must underestimate Al Franken. He's nailed Sessions a few times on interactions with the Russians.

For anyone worrying about that super duper pardon power, I'm pretty sure our beloved (my beloved anyway) NY AG Schneidermann is going to have some charges ready to go at least against Trump, Manafort, Gates, Kushner, and on and on. Happy Holidays, indeed.

Rational Nation USA said...

Bob, you forgot to mention independents who added to his vote tally, and helped tRump win.

Dems (the old guard power) should have gotten behind and ran Sanders.

Woulda, coulda, shoulda doesn't change reality however, and so we're stuck with the political/governance disaster that is tRump.

Ducky's here said...

Let's not focus entirely on Lord Dampnut and his real estate money launderers. Lower ranking officials in his administration are also complete ass hats. Here's Rick Perry our Secretary of Energy reminding us that fossil fuel extraction will stop secual assault in Africa.

""It's going to take fossil fuels to push power out into those villages in Africa," the secretary said at a forum hosted by Axios and NBC News. "A young girl told me to my face, one of the reasons that electricity is so important to me is not only because I'm not going to have to try to read by the light of a fire and have those fumes literally killing people, but also from the standpoint of sexual assault."

"When the lights are on, when you have light that shines, the righteousness, if you will, on those types of acts," he continued. "So from the standpoint of how you really affect people's lives, fossil fuels is going to play a role in that. I happen to think it's going to play a positive role."

The pro-environment Sierra Club called Perry's sentiments "twisted" and urged the secretary to step down "before he causes any more damage.""

A real gaggle of idiots.

Dave Miller said...

We've now moved from Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi to Uranium Uranium Uranium...

Now, let's just say all the worst about HRC is true. Does that make anything about DJT untrue?

No, of course not, so why are they not supporting getting to the bottom of that slime pit? Because to do so would make them look bad.

Dave Miller said...

Ducky... remember when we were promised so many of the best people? How 'bout a guy who knows nothing about food science heading the USDA? judges without even a qualified rating?

These guys make "Heck of a job" Brownie look like an overqualified expert, even with all his equestrian experience.

Geez...

KP said...

"How 'bout a guy who knows nothing about food science heading the USDA?"

It appears he has spent a lot of time around food. Still, immersing himself in the subject is not science.

There is an old saying that goes "dose makes the poison". I wonder if this applies to politicians. If it does we are all in danger. Ha!