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Tuesday, July 30, 2024
MAGA & CO., still having hysterics over, “La Cène Sur Un Scène Sur La Seine."
I had a long conversation with an art professor about this dust up earlier today. Here's his take.
A lot of thinking must center on intent. What is/was the intent of the creators when an object is created. So for instance, take the McDonald's send up. Was the intent of the creator to mock, criticize, have some fun, or something else? When an artist creates, he generally has some intent in the back of his or her mind.
What was that intent in this instance?
Was it to shock? If so, for what purpose? Did the creators have an intent to be critical of Christianity because they opposed some of the views? Was the scene done not to create art, but to incite a populace ready to be enraged?
The Trump images I showed him, he found to be stupid and blasphemous. But not evil because he did not see the intent to criticize religion per se, but rather, to use it. Where as he saw the French images as leaning to an intention to be critical of religion.
In the end, for him, it comes down to intent.
Which I have no idea how someone who does not know the creators, ascertains.
According to the creator of the tableau, which I read in an interview --can't remember where, the "intent" was to show the Greek origins of the Olympic games through the painting by Bijlert.
I am very familiar with DaVinci's Last Supper, "Il Cenacolo," because I actually saw the original when I visited the refectory of the Convent of Santa Maria delle Grazie in Milan, Italy.
When I saw the tableau at the opening of the Olympic games, the Last Supper never entered my mind. I saw Bacchus and the other characters, and that's all. I was not familiar with the painting on which the representation was based.
I might add that Da Vinci's iconic painting is actually a fresco secco that was painted on the walls of the Convent of Santa Maria delle Grazie over a period of time.
The composition came from Da Vinci's IMAGINATION, inspired by the Gospel of St. John.
The fresco secco itself is a MADE-UP tableau because, of course, no photos existed of what the Bible's Last Supper actually looked like or was.
This whole outrage is manufactured, IMO, because people's ignorance of what the Bacchanalia was and what it represented in Greek mythology.
I think Jesus, himself a radical spiritualist who railed against the hypocrisy of his own Jewish faith at the time, would today be railing twice has much against the Religion and Church named after him. Based on my readings and understanding of the Gospels, especially the Gnostic Gospel of Thomas, Jesus would harshly denounce Christian Nationalism.
A spiritual path, a religion, and a church are strengthened by a diversity of views and practices. As nothing in existence remains static and unchanging ut only makes sense that as societal and cultural norms change spiritual paths evolve to meet the current needs if the community. It can and is done in many spiritual traditions.
This kerfuffle is only important to those who intentionally make it so in their own minds based only on beliefs.
No, what you saw was a Carnival during Lent. A mixture of the sacred with the profane. And mixing those two things is NEVER a good look. Just ask Andres Serrano.
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I had a long conversation with an art professor about this dust up earlier today. Here's his take.
A lot of thinking must center on intent. What is/was the intent of the creators when an object is created. So for instance, take the McDonald's send up. Was the intent of the creator to mock, criticize, have some fun, or something else? When an artist creates, he generally has some intent in the back of his or her mind.
What was that intent in this instance?
Was it to shock? If so, for what purpose? Did the creators have an intent to be critical of Christianity because they opposed some of the views? Was the scene done not to create art, but to incite a populace ready to be enraged?
The Trump images I showed him, he found to be stupid and blasphemous. But not evil because he did not see the intent to criticize religion per se, but rather, to use it. Where as he saw the French images as leaning to an intention to be critical of religion.
In the end, for him, it comes down to intent.
Which I have no idea how someone who does not know the creators, ascertains.
Just some thoughts.
According to the creator of the tableau, which I read in an interview --can't remember where, the "intent" was to show the Greek origins of the Olympic games through the painting by Bijlert.
I am very familiar with DaVinci's Last Supper, "Il Cenacolo," because I actually saw the original when I visited the refectory of the Convent of Santa Maria delle Grazie in Milan, Italy.
When I saw the tableau at the opening of the Olympic games, the Last Supper never entered my mind. I saw Bacchus and the other characters, and that's all. I was not familiar with the painting on which the representation was based.
I might add that Da Vinci's iconic painting is actually a fresco secco that was painted on the walls of the Convent of Santa Maria delle Grazie over a period of time.
The composition came from Da Vinci's IMAGINATION, inspired by the Gospel of St. John.
The fresco secco itself is a MADE-UP tableau because, of course, no photos existed of what the Bible's Last Supper actually looked like or was.
This whole outrage is manufactured, IMO, because people's ignorance of what the Bacchanalia was and what it represented in Greek mythology.
I think Jesus, himself a radical spiritualist who railed against the hypocrisy of his own Jewish faith at the time, would today be railing twice has much against the Religion and Church named after him. Based on my readings and understanding of the Gospels, especially the Gnostic Gospel of Thomas, Jesus would harshly denounce Christian Nationalism.
A spiritual path, a religion, and a church are strengthened by a diversity of views and practices. As nothing in existence remains static and unchanging ut only makes sense that as societal and cultural norms change spiritual paths evolve to meet the current needs if the community. It can and is done in many spiritual traditions.
This kerfuffle is only important to those who intentionally make it so in their own minds based only on beliefs.
Les,
I agree with you. There was no reason, IMO, for the outrage.
No, what you saw was a Carnival during Lent. A mixture of the sacred with the profane. And mixing those two things is NEVER a good look. Just ask Andres Serrano.
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