UPDATE:
Trump: now a thirty-something prez!
President Unindicted Co-Conspirator is polling at 36% approval. If he can get himself to sink lower, the Democrats will surely prevail in the House, and maybe -- a long shot -- the Senate, and the good people of this country will prevail!
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"The root of the problem is the president’s amorality. Anyone who works with him knows he is not moored to any discernible first principles that guide his decision making."
"Given the instability many witnessed, there were early whispers within the cabinet of invoking the 25th Amendment, which would start a complex process for removing the president. But no one wanted to precipitate a constitutional crisis. So we will do what we can to steer the administration in the right direction until — one way or another — it’s over. The bigger concern is not what Mr. Trump has done to the presidency but rather what we as a nation have allowed him to do to us. We have sunk low with him and allowed our discourse to be stripped of civility."
Charlie Pierce:
"Yeah, his behavior in office has shocked the hell out of me, too. Who could've guessed that a raving know-nothing with a gold commode might turn out to be a tacky president*?
Enough of this stuff. Stand up in the light of day and tell your stories. All of them, right from the beginning. Admit that what you're confronting now is the end result of 40 years of conservative politics and all the government-is-the-problem malfeasance you've been imbibing since you were wingnuts in swaddling.
The fire's licking at your ankles at last. Come out of the cupboards, you boys and girls. None of you are heroes."
11 comments:
It has been a long slow descent into insanity that the GOP has steered itself. I'm very grateful that I had the good sense (my parents upbringing gets credit) to jump off that train some time ago.
tRump is the end result of a party that has lost its soul and with it any sense of decency, core values, and morality.
Sad...
Here's a typical view of a Trump supporter...
"...no president has been faced with such a dire situation other than say George Washington, or Abraham Lincoln who risked it all the free the slaves and paid with his life. We cannot compare Trump to any president in modern times, say post Civil War. None of them either had such challenges or if they did, did not go into offensive mode against them. FDR – nightmare communist, Truman – left us with N Korea, Eisenhower built the national freeway system. JFK – got us to the moon, LBJ- disaster, Nixon/Ford – worthless, Carter -disaster, Reagan stood out – won the cold war, GHWBush, clinton, GWBush – worthless to disasters – clinton shipped all the mfg jobs out of country, Trump is fighting against countries who have been eating our lunch for decades and massive corruption in any significant agency in DC, people in the WH, the media, the hollywood crowd and the indoctrinated fascists running around showing up at Kavanaugh hearings cheered on by democrats and even democrat congress people begging the tards to do violence on fellow Americans if they look like they might be a republican supporter.
I can’t think of a more dangerous time. A democrat majority anytime in probably the next 20 years at least will kill America D E A D."
Can anyone explain to me how you communicate with someone like this? Everyone who opposes Trump is wrong. But that is what we're seeing from the 35%ers...
These are the folks Trump was talking about when he said he could shoot someone and not pay a political price.
RN, I consider you a conservative/libertarian who puts country above party.
I would hope I would do the same should the Democrats ever support for the presidency an immoral, incompetent fraud like Trump. I know you do all you can to dissuade the kooks at a certain blog, but I'm afraid they've all gone to join the "POTUS" IN Crazytown. They're all as immoral, incompetent, and fraudulent as he is. In fact, they see themselves in Trump and that's why they are so devoted to the scoundrel. Nothing you say or prove to them will change their minds. They are all irredeemable nutcases who will be left in the dustbin of history for supporting the disaster in the White House.
Bravo to you! A man of principle and honor.
Dave the person who wrote that is a typical Trumpista who knows only a skewed version of history, if he even knows history at all. Everything he wrote is a simplistic gobbledegook, much like his brain function. The good news is that he and his cohorts are a distinct and lonely minority within America. He and they do not represent the majority. In any given country, there will always be misinformed thinking by a minority who smugly believe everyone is with them.
They are to be pitied.
Cruel? Maybe. But other conservative/libertarians see through the fraud in the White House and understand the danger he poses to America. The folks like the one who wrote that simplistic garbage are NOT what make America great; they make America ashamed.
They are the 30 percenters, and they don't understand what that means.
Five words that I can hardly stand to hear: "anonymous source" and "The president tweeted." Look, I get that anonymous sources can be of great value to journalism, but this is totally different. Someone like "Deep Throat" points journalists towards evidence of a crime that they can then use to expose the perpetrator(s). This putz is just whining. Fucking do something if you're that concerned - because I gotta tell you, letting a madman run the country into the dirt just because you like deregulation is kind of a bad look. Just saying.
I wonder if we can count on some of the conservative judges on the Supreme Court to hold to principles of legal precedent?
Chief judge Roberts said during his nomination hearings that he thought Row/Wade was settled law and was not looking to overturn it. But he did vote to hear certain abortion cases and his votes on those cases show his anti-abortion thinking. Yet, I was surprised that Roberts voted with the ACA and Obama.
If Supreme Court votes are on political, ideological lines (as they usually are) we can expect to see an assault on all sorts of settled law that conservatives have disagreed with for 50 years.
Just recently Sen. Schumer allowed 15 conservative judges to be approved to lifetime appointments without debate. The Judiciary is slanted to the conservatives and will stay that way until conservative judges start dying, decades from now.
Jerry... the judicial branch of government is perhaps the most important branch we have. You've brought up a couple of good issues. On abortion, I think we will see that return to the states. Look, a clear majority is not where many Dems are. That majority, as I read the tea leaves, wants some restrictions on abortion after the first trimester.
Many can disagree with that, but the polling seems to be pretty good. The Clintons used to say safe, legal and rare. We've not heard that in years. That's a worthy goal, at least in my opinion.
I'm not sure what progressives wanted Schumer to do. He didn't have the votes and the Dems, during their reign, decided to end the filibuster. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
The settled law question is what worries me most, or to coin a phrase, unsettles me the most.
Take gay marriage. That case turns partially on the Loving decision. If you can invalidate gay marriage, why not my interracial marriage. The arguments pro and con are the same.
Heck, we can't even get SCOTUS nominees to say publicly if Brown v Topeka was correctly decided.
This is the moment I feared most when Trump won. It is now upon us.
Can anyone explain to me how you communicate with someone like this?
Dave, I can't. I just read the comment section over at the Mother ship. I was surprised Mz. Z let your reasoned, polite and gentle rebuttal through. Based on her over the top reaction there is no communicating, with her anyway. I've left a couple comments over there since she imposed her ban and got the same reaction no matter how civil I was. The Mothership has run a ground, all hope is lost.
Dave,
Thanks for your thoughtful, rational reply. Your thinking is clearer than mine.
Ever since Trump was elected my president I have been in a fighting mood. I think Democrats should fight everything he and the Republican majority does. Take it to the Supreme Court, use every Congressional rule available to fight back. You might say that we have to pick and choose our fights, but with Trump and these brick wall, dirty Republicans I think we should fight them on everything. It's a constant fight, not just a pick and choose situation. Sometimes a fight is worthwhile even if we know we are going to lose.
Like those 15 judges. Even without the filibuster Senate rules call for a 30 hour debate time on each judicial nomination. Republicans have the votes, but maybe Democrats could have made the fight last past the Fall elections and keep a few from possibly getting confirmed.
Again, your thinking is more rational than mine and I know anger is not the way to deal with a bully, but when I hear Trump's garbage, I just can't help myself.
Jerry, you're not alone. The TrumpCultists crow about the economy saying that will get Trump elected. What they fail to explain is this: If the economy is the important issues, why does Trump's approval rating continue to sink? If he's making America great again, then why do a MAJORITY of Americans detest him?
TrumpCultists never answer this conundrum.
Sen. Booker told the Republicans to stuff it today and released "confidential"material showing just what kind Kava is, in the face of being expelled from the Senate. Go Booker!!!
President Obama spoke out today and directly at Trump. Looks like he will be in the election fight this Fall! Great!
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