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Friday, December 6, 2019

WILL TRUMP CULTISTS LISTEN TO ONE OF THEIR OWN?

23 comments:

BlueBull said...

No. They'll do what they always do - turn on their own if they step even a tiny bit out of line. The more whacked out, outrageous, bigoted, deceptive and crude the better for the radical righties who've destroyed the GOP. No conspiracy theory is too absurd for them. No lie too great. No position too idiotic for the wingnuts. I really don't understand how any sane, smart person could still back them after they were proven wrong about W, proven wrong about Palin (they said she was a great leader. HA!) and now with this worse than ever crime family they've hoisted on us. Again, how could ANYONE vote for these utter and profound morons?

Doctor Tomato said...

You could sit in a courtroom for a month and not run across a more driven petty criminal than Donald Trump.

Make him account for all of his crimes, starting with fraud in his various shell businesses, the casinos, the empty golf courses, Trump "University", and the bad bets on everything. Somehow he managed to invest in all of the wrong properties after the crash, when all of that free money was sitting around for someone who had a bankroll.

But, of course, that's the least of our worries. We knew what kind of man he is, and it rears its hideous head every single day. Let's see if we have the courage to dump him and his smiling enabler Mike Pence as soon as possible, and then let the chips fall where they may.

Anonymous said...

Poor judge Nap begged Trump for a seat on SCOTUS and was rejected,hence his bitterness.

Shaw Kenawe said...

Just what a Trump cultist would say. Instead of listening to the judge's informed legal expertise, Anonymous uses a Trumpian excuse for a judge speaking truth to power.

Anonymous, like the rest of the Trump cult, admires a documented, pathological liar, a guy who cheated not just on his 3 wives, but even on his mistresses, and hung out with a child rapist, saying in a magazine interview that Epstein was a fun guy, and finally, a documented fraud who had to pay $25 million in a law suit because he cheated people out of their money with his fake university -- also, he stole from his own foundation and used the money to buy a portait of himself instead of giving the money to veterans. He had to pay $2 million in that law suit and along with his spawn can never run a charity again in the state of New York.

On top of all those moral failings, Trump is a sniveling, balless coward who went running home because the big guys made fun of him. The leaders of the rest of the world laughed at the POTUS!

And this "Anonymous" is hopiC!ng that poor excuse of a human being will represent America for another 4 years?

JHC!





Dave Miller said...

Shaw... the short answer is NO.

Heck, they won't listen to themselves from the Clinton Impeachment.

Rational Nation USA said...

Hey Rusty, how are ya? Haven't seen you in quite awhile.

Cruising incognito now eh.

Dave Miller said...

Nothing will move this group.

Now we have the personal lawyer of the United States President meeting with the son of the former head of the KGB in the part of Ukraine that Russia invaded. And that son is himself a KGB school graduate. For the purpose of influencing a US election.

And yet we hear nothing.

In their worst dreams, there is simply nothing like this that has ever happened before in the history of our country. And yet not one, not one single GOP rep sees anything wrong here. They believe it is fine for a sitting president to consult with former KGB operatives.

It really is breathtaking.

Shaw Kenawe said...

Here's proof that Trump supporters are cultists who apparently don't care about our Constitution and our form of government. Putin couldn't have asked for a more cooperative group of people to help him destroy America:

The President's Fans Think He'd 'Operate More Effectively' Without Congress or the Courts

Rational Nation USA said...

It is true. IF effective tyranny is ones desired choice of governance.

What I can't understand is this, if they wish for a monarchy or dictatorship why don't they simply move to Russis, China, or some other nation with essentially dictatorial leadership and corruption. Leaving same folks to their Constitution and the rule of law.

There's no understanding these intellectually lazy cultists.

Anonymous said...

Tell us Ms.Shaw, what does all of Trumps past personal escapades have to do with the present booming economy and lowest unemployment in 50 years.

Shaw Kenawe said...

So, Anonymous, it isn't Trump's "past personal escapades" as you put it, it's his PRESENT AND PAST, lying, cheating, and committing fraud that bothers people who care about honesty, decency, and fealty to our Constitution and rule of law.

We understand that there are millions of cultists like you who don't give a flying donut about such honorable traits in a leader so long as you "get yours." All through history there are examples of people who supported tyrants, murderers, cheats, liars, and frauds because they delivered for the mob. You and your fellow Trump cultists are no different.

If you have children or grandchildren, I wonder if you point to Trump's odious past and present lying, cheating, and committing fraud and tell your children and grandchild that personal honesty, decency, and fealty to the rule of law is NOT important, so long as you get what you want from your leaders.

I'm guessing that's how you raise your family. But it's not how a majority of Americans raise theirs.

My grandparents lived under Mussolini who made the trains run on time and who went after the Mafia -- two admirable goals in Italy at the time.

Why don't you Google Mussolini and discover how the Italian people rewarded Mussolini The Italians finally came to understand that giving up Italy's honor and decency isn't worth a punctual train schedule.

I'm afraid you and your fellow Trump cultistx will reckon with that as well in the future.

Fed up said...

Re: The shooting at Pensacola Naval base. Trump will never stop licking the Saudi royalty’s ass; they pay him for hotels & condos.

That’s why there was no Saudi Muslim ban, no consequences for Jamal Khashoggi being dismembered, & why trump vetoed bipartisan congress *3 times* when they tried to end arms Saudi deals


With trump, it is 100% always & forever about his own personal power & money.

R.D. said...

To answer Anonymous:

The problem with many Christian conservatives is that their idea of “morality” and ethical behavior hasn’t made it out of bed and sex. Our businesses and corporations and local governments and laws can be as immoral and unethical as they want to be and these zealots turn a blind eye to the destruction that is wrought to individuals and communities, often those who are poor or darker skinned or immigrant.

Today they countenance and embrace as if JC himself a President who lies and cheats and breaks the law and undermines the Constitution while literally wrapping himself in the flag.

Too many conservative Christians are the worst kind of bigots and hypocrites while simultaneously thinking that they own the only road to God.

If they are contemptible, they do it to themselves and pollute everything around them as Trump does, and then they project it onto others just like he does! Their fears are self created and they need therapy; God cannot help those who hate and fear.

Ray Cranston said...

Hey Anonymous who supports the immoral Trump so his IRA does well, should read this:

"Living by a vital lie where evil is accepted to achieve good is a perversion of all goodness and a form of madness."

The Christian right and Anonymous's adoration of Trump is another manifestation of how deeply Trump has driven this nation to a state of madness and immorality where we can't tell what is good or evil, what is true or false.

Trump is a curse on civilization and all its values. His only god is money and everything else is foolish and everyone else is a fool.

Rational Nation USA said...

VERY WELL said Ray! So absolutely true.

Dave Miller said...

Ray, RD and others...

Here is the relevant test used by many evangelicals as it relates to governmental power generally and Pres Trump specifically. It comes from Chapter 13 of the Book of Romans, written by the Apostle Paul...

"Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience."

It is from this section that the evangelical church derives the belief that Pres Trump has been appointed, anointed, or put in place by God and as such, must be followed.

Now the astute reader will ask the following... "And what about Barack Obama or Bill Clinton?"

Recent researchers and pollsters have done just that. And they found that a significant percentage, in the range of 40%, of ppl who interpreted those verses to support Pres Trump, did not not apply them, or believe they applied to all presidents. Just, in this case, to President Trump.

There simply is no purity of belief in the GOP. They claim the mantel of God followers and America lovers and expound certain principles when they are in power, and then refuse to hold to those same principles when the Dems hold sway.

Think that's untrue? Do any of the Anon, Skuds and others disagree?

If so, please explain this...

GOP member, Catholic, and former Speaker Newt Gingrich has recently stated that is is wrong for the Democratic House to move towards impeachment so close to Christmas. Here's his quote... "...really, on the eve of Christmas it is really sad to see the dishonesty and the partisanship that the House Democrats are displaying,”

It would be touching sentiment if when Gingrich was Speaker he hadn't released draft Articles of Impeachment against Pres Clinton as the Pres was lighting the National Christmas Tree and hadn't led the GOP controlled House to vote on those Articles on December 19th.

Finally... any of you guys notice none of the conservative sites, or conservative ppl here are worried about our president's personal lawyer sitting down with the son of the former head of the KGB, himself a former KGB trained agent? In a country that Russia invaded?

Pretty incredible stuff...

Anonymous said...

My oh my, aren't you folks supposed to represent the party of inclusion, acceptance,love,kumbaya and all things rainbows and lollipops....yet here you all appear to be overflowing with anger and hate....that really can't be healthy.

Shaw Kenawe said...


"Finally... any of you guys notice none of the conservative sites, or conservative ppl here are worried about our president's personal lawyer sitting down with the son of the former head of the KGB, himself a former KGB trained agent? In a country that Russia invaded?"

Dave, If I didn't know better, those conservative bloggers and the conservatives (I'm looking at you skud) who comment here would make me believe they support the ex-head of the Commie KGB and his murderous thugs over their own government and fellow Americans.

Wait. They actually do. I've seen photos of Trumpers at his rallies that say "I'd rather be a Russian than a Democrat," and recently I read that support and admiration of Russia is at an all-time high among Republicans. Imagine if this were true of the Dems during Mr. Obama's presidency! But it's fine with the GOP.

Putin, with the help of Donald J. Trump, has really worked those people to stand their traditional suspicious and wary view of Russia on its head. Never thought I'd live to see that happen, and yet, it took only a dishonest and incompetent POTUS to help Russia accomplish it.

The far right bloggers and news sites have cast their allegiances to an anti-American thug all because of DJT.

Skud, of course, will say nothing of that, but will remind us all that Mr. Obama once said "If you like your doctor, you can keep him." And also, -H (he calls her "the beast" just like the rest of the far righties do) lost to Trump (she got 3+ million more votes from Americans than he did) and skud says we can't get over it.

No, skud, what we can't get over is your and the rest of the Goopers' support of an indecent, dishonest, and dangerously dumb man and his pal, the murderous dictator, Putin.

That's what we can't get over. We're past what happened in 2016 and wondering where America will go in 2020. If it sticks with Trump, America will certainly go to Hell.

Shaw Kenawe said...

"Anonymous said...
My oh my, aren't you folks supposed to represent the party of inclusion, acceptance,love,kumbaya and all things rainbows and lollipops....yet here you all appear to be overflowing with anger and hate....that really can't be healthy."

Being indignant and angry at a POTUS who betrays his country is righteous. That you feel the need to criticize righteous anger shows you don't know what the hell is going on.

Anonymous said...

Well Ray, the truth is...money does in fact talk and B.S. most assuredly walks....I trust you're wearing comfortable shoes.

Anonymous said...

That’s YOUR Interpretation, not mine, and not half of the Country’s

Rational Nation USA said...

It isn't. Which is precisely why choosing to ignore the above biblical verse in specific, and many in general was very easy for me. Especially with respect to the OT.

Shaw Kenawe said...

Sorry Anon, not half the country. Only 40%. A MAJORITY is anti Trump. With ample good reason.