BREAKING NEWS via REUTERS:
U.S. SUPREME COURT REJECTS TEXAS LAWSUIT BACKED BY TRUMP CHALLENGING BIDEN'S ELECTION WINS IN FOUR KEY STATES
It's finally OVER!!!!!
Conservative Steve Schmidt's Tweets:
There will be no Trumps on Air Force One or Marine One.
The idiot children and presidential in-laws will be stripped of their power and authority.
Trump will lose the presidential seal.
The American people decide our elections.
Joe Biden will restore honor, dignity, decency and competence to the presidency at the stroke of noon on Jan. 20, 2021.
Don’t let Trump’s absurdist spin and lies cause panic. Stay calm. Count the votes.
When the counting is done, it will be the end of Trump’s cancerous term.
Donald Trump, what you did last night was unpardonable. You have lost. You will go. The trappings of power will be stripped from you.
The American people have rejected you. The states that elected you in 2016 have fired you. Your fate is sealed. The counting goes on, and it is getting darker by the moment for you. There is no legal basis for your absurd claims and legal actions. You will keep getting laughed out of court.
It’s almost over. Close your eyes, Donald Trump.
Now say President Joe Biden to yourself three times.
This isn’t going to look that close.
You have done such damage to this country.
Your crooked and inept family has desecrated the White House. History will brutally judge you.
Loser."
Schmidt again:
Think about it as essentially repudiating and unsigning the Declaration of Independence.
They want a ruler not a President. It is a declaration of repudiation and hostility towards the American Republic. They want their leader Trump, who lost the election to remain in power. They are lying about an election Joe Biden
won. They are poisoning faith and belief in democracy by explicitly repudiating it.
The actions of the 17 GOP State AG’s and 126 GOP House Members is an almost inconceivable act of betrayal. They have broken faith with America and desecrated the blood sacrifices of Patriots from Lexington to Gettysburg from Normandy to the Edmund Pettus bridge.
Trump has birthed an Autocratic movement. It has made its first move. If we lose this this country there is no place else for us to go. We are free because we are sovereign. We are a government of the people, for the people by the people. Politicians work for us and we can fire them. We choose. We are in a dangerous hour. It will be a long fight."
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The militias should be heard from soon. We still have some dangerous times coming.
The miitias should act out soon. We still have some dangerous times.
A difference of almost 8 million votes and an exclamation point of 9 Supreme Court judges.
Winner of almost 60 straight cases defending his landslide victory over the loser, DJT. President Elect, Joe Biden.
Only the "false fact" crowd, deadenders and losers claim otherwise.
Ducky and Dave,
Lots of Trumpers on the new social platform “Paler” are calling for “succession.” And armed rebellion.
Trump has unleashed a mob of spelling-challenged anti-democracy, anti-American thugs!
That should be “Parler” not Paler.
70 million deadenders are a dangerous horde when pisssd off and armed.
The real "fun" hasn't started yet. But it will.
Not a single allegation from Trump has resulted in an indictment. Meanwhile all three of his campaign managers, his personal attorney, his national security advisor and a number of his advisors have all been charged with real crimes.
I'm not so sure that your enthusiasm should be warranted!
It isn't over yet. Congress still has certify the EC vote. When VP Pence refuses to go along with the theft of the election, the 12th amendment will be triggered, kicking the decision to the House, where each state gets one vote.
Quote: As things stand, this method of adding up state representations rather that the individual votes of the 435 representatives would give the Republicans a majority to reelect their candidate.
If that doesn't work? The Proud Boys are standing by. LOL.
Shaw... here are my thoughts on the recent SCOTUS decision and the GOP moving forward. I had rpeviously posted them at Derv's site...
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It's clear now that the SCOTUS has thrown the Trump inspired suit out of court that we have a real problem. Either each and every Republican who signed onto this brief, despite many being lawyers, have no understanding of the law they studied, or they are blatantly trying to subvert the Constitution for political gain.
How else can we explain such nonsense?
They entered into an action that denies the very Federalism that for years they have defended in campaign after campaign. Is it too much for us to now believe those beliefs were never really held close, but instead were simply used as a means to gain votes, control like minded people and win elections?
Based on this now dismissed suit, never again should we even entertain a Republican decrying federal oversight of a state. Just like we should never believe them when they speak of the need to balance budgets or to have a person of great moral character as a leader or president.
The GOP since 2016 has sacrificed every belief they have previously held close to their hearts. All in fealty to the most unqualified person ever to sit in the Oval Office.
Rev, The fourth estate is charged with keeping the other three in line. The problem is the fourth estate is owned by one side of the political spectrum and they are mute on any misdeeds of the left. The prince paying off iran, crickets, attacking Israel and siding with Egypt, yawn. The -H- and her handling of her emails, oh well, her incompetence of handling her job as SS, yawn, hunter and his selling daddy's position and now his tax problems, little said. They obsessed along with the left about russian interference and collusion with trump which was found baseless. They sided with democrats on placing full blame on trump for the spread of the virus ignoring all the leftists, pelosi, cuomo, de blasio, cooper, shumer, biden and all the rest who said don't worry.
Now we have the election and the fourth estate sees no issue with sending 30+ million ballots to supposed voters. They didn't raise issue with joey campaigning from his basement couch. When joey was given a fluff question they accepted what ever answer he gave.
Rev, I will grant that the GOP blew it but where is the questioning body to keep politicians in check. The only way to save the integrity of the country is to have an unbiased fourth estate which doesn't seem to be in the cards.
The man sill has more than a month in office. Anything can happen in a month.
Skud, why would the conservative owners of media be mute on any "misdeeds" of the left? fyi, the Democrats you mention didn't have access to the intelligence briefings Dotard received that warned him of the coming pandemic in late 2019.
Ms. Shaw, It was over when it was decided to mail out millions of unsolicited ballots, I know this was the most honest election ever, but some people are overly optimistic. The results were not going to change and even if some fraudulent ballots were found it would not change the results.
Derv, Local media may tend to report the way their audience believes but the opinion makers are left. CNN, MSDNC, ABC, NBC, CBS, NYT are all about the left as are most major newspapers. They even gave good press to the bern. We are dealing with 24 hour news and that is the way a lot of people form their ideas.
The democrats mentioned did have knowledge of covid but like everyone they had no idea of the severity. All of this is moot because joey has a plan which includes 100 million doses of the trump vaccine administered in his first 100 days.
Trump told us he was going to do this BEFORE THE ELECTION EVEN TOOK PLACE! It has been his plan all along: falsely claim mail-order ballots are fraudulent, tell his supporters not to vote by mail, and encourage state legislatures to forbid counting of mail-in ballots before Election Day. The result was predetermined! On Election Day it would look like he won. Biden’s votes would come in later!
IF ANYONE THINKS TRUMP WON, YOU HAVE BEEN CONNED!
Skud... among your many opinions, as opposed to facts with evidence was this gem... "They [the media] obsessed along with the left about russian [sic] interference and collusion with trump [sic] which was found baseless."
Maybe the media obsessed because the Bi-Partisan Senate committee found, as a point of fact, that the Russians did interfere with the 2016 elections, as did the Mueller investigation.
We'll all wait for any real proof, links or evidence on some of the fluff you posted. And please remember, even the Trump Campaign has admitted they are not alleging fraud. Until they said it was because the fraud was undetectable.
But thanks... you've perfectly shown what the issue is here in the US. Significant groups of people, like yourself, believe things as facts, without any evidence. Just because you think it's true It's a false/alternative fact world.
I brought this comment I made over from the post below because it explains what happened not just to skudrunner, but to the people who still Incorrectly, falsely, and stubbornly believe Trump won the election or that the election was “stolen.”
Skud, you and your friends have been bamboozled, and I’m sorry that you can’t see it, that you REFUSE to see it. A majority of your fellow Americans see it, as does a majority of the civilized world.
Carl Sagan explains what I mean:
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”
This is exactly what’s happened to you and to the thousands of Trump cultists who’ve been bamboozled by this century’s greatest bamboozling conman. It breaks my heart to see so many thousands of my countrymen unable to break away from the hold Trump has over them. You and the people on the Trump blogs you frequent have given that power to Trump, and he doesn’t care about you or your lives.
The fact that we are the sickest country with 300,000 Covid deaths while being the richest and most technically and medically advanced in the world tells you all you need to know about Trump’s miserable leadership and his disregard for the lives of the people he was supposed to lead.
Trump has bamboozled millions of Americans into thinking he’s what he is not! I’m sorry for you and your loss of rational thinking.
What we saw today [yesterday in DC] was a national tragedy. Thousands of Americans unable to look at facts and face the truth of Trump’s defeat, an honest and legal defeat in the election. And that’s because you’ve been bamboozled!
Trump has now called Joe Biden “illegitimate” referring to Biden’s being elected. Trump, in a shockingly traitorous interview with a FOX News personality, has planted the idea of Biden’s presidency being illegitimate, so that his bamboozled cultists will believe it and parrot the lie. The big dirty traitorous lie against America and all she has stood for for the last 240+ years.
Here’s Trump’s exact quote. I forgot to include in the comment above.
Trump says this without a shred of irony: "I worry about the country having an illegitimate president. That's what I worry about. A president that lost and lost badly. This wasn't, like, a close election."
Shaw said... "Trump has now called Joe Biden “illegitimate” referring to Biden’s being elected."
That's how Trump and the GOP roll Shaw...
Instead of talking about policies and steering clear of personal insult, the preferred method of Trump is to disqualify opponents. Remember, Trump the citizen had no use for reasoned dialogue on Candidate Obama's policies, none at all. Rather, his plan was to brand him as constitutionally ineligible for the office of the presidency.
Just as he's doing now with Biden.
Trump is not smart enough, or versed enough to talk about the issues, so he DQ's his opposition by making them not just unqualified, but illegal interlopers.
Ms Shaw, you mean trump said biden was illegitimate in the same manner -H- and many on the left said virtually the same thing about trump. You do insinuate the right was had but fair to acknowledge that the media controls the country not the politicians.
Rev, If one ballot is fraudulent then there is fraud, guess you missed that. Enough fraud to change the results, no way, but fraud was committed. It will be soon that the ego leaves the WH and the sooner the better. I don't want anything on joeys mind except staying healthy. After eight years of being attacked and four years of a president being attacked I am ready to see a quieter time and joey will bring that. Once we get through the hunter nonsense and accept nothing will happen, joe can go back to the basement and protect his back.
The Blob of Orange is such a pathetic lying POS it is impossible to understand how so many of our fellow Americans could actually fall for his glaring con(s).
I am beginning to feel as if Orwell had some vison of The Blob of Orange when he authored is 1984 dystopian novel and that we are living it now, in real time.
trump, the Orange Bastard is an indecent, vile, putrid, stinking blob of human waste. Those sycophants in congress and the senate who have supported this vile POS are NO better than he is and his blind and deaf adoring cultists are simply hopeless sheeple fooling a very evil "man's" attempt to DESTROY our once Proud Republic. At one time our experiment in self rule was a shining beacon for ALL of humanity. No more. The Blob of Orange has Fundamentally Changed all of that and he absolutely will continue when his Orange Carcass is no longer casting a black shadow in the White House. His long black shadow will however hang over this nation until he falls ill and dies.
skudrunner: "Ms Shaw, you mean trump said biden was illegitimate in the same manner -H- and many on the left said virtually the same thing about trump."
SK: Nope. Hillary Clinton conceded to Donald Trump the morning after the 2016 election. Period.
The Mueller Report says in no uncertain terms that RUSSIANS HELPED DONALD TRUMP IN HIS BID FOR THE PRESIDENCY. Period.
The Mueller Report also said this:
“If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state.” –Mueller Report
You and your fellow anti-Democracy pals on those far right blogs willfully ignore those facts because they're embarrassing and inconvenient for your narratives about Trump. Too bad. You can have your own opinions but not your own facts.
skudrunner: "You do insinuate the right was had but fair to acknowledge that the media controls the country not the politicians."
I'm glad you too admit how FAUX NOOZ, Rush Limbaugh, Newsmax, and OAN control the minds and hearts of misguided Trump cultists who still believe, against all facts and reason, that the election was "stolen."
skudrunner: "Rev, If one ballot is fraudulent then there is fraud, guess you missed that. Enough fraud to change the results, no way, but fraud was committed."
If you really believe that, then it applies to the 2016 election as well. Do you then admit that fraud was involved in the 2016 election? Or is fraud committed only when Trump loses? I await your answer.
The rest of your comment is nothing but gas-lighting, and not worthy of comment from me.
Skud... I've been thinking about your "if one ballot was fraudulent" comment.
That seems to be the type of hairsplitting that many of us hated about Bill Clinton's "the mean of is" comment. While technically true, in actuality, it is not. Let's say we had a thousand fraudulent votes cast in the last election. Based on the Heritage Foundation's list of fraudulent cases, 1000 seems to be a huge number given that they list only 17 cases where anything like fraud have been officially proven, or found. But I am feeling charitable today.
So if we take our 1000 cases and divide it by the over 150 million votes cast in the November election, our error rate is going to be mighty small. So small in fact as to be essentially non existent. Now, that is not say there are not errors in counting here and there.
But errors, without intent, do not signify fraud. It's like someone saying untrue things without the intent to deceive or mislead. The saying is false, but the person is not lying because lying requires intent. Fraud too. If Mary the poll worker makes a mistake and miscounts, or miscredits 15 ballots, it is not fraud, it is a mistake. And it should be corrected.
As we have seen in the numerous recounts, the final count has moved a little here and there, but the larger picture, the first, early and what we now know to be the final, result has never changed, at least in the presidential count.
I'm okay, as I am sure my lefty friends are too, with dealing with actual fraud. But for years we've heard this fraud charge bandied about by conservatives and even the right leaning Heritage Foundation has only been able to document 17 cases. And of those 17, only four cases existed where the elections were overturned, all in the south by the GOP.
The rest were mostly ineligible voting by an individual, or falsely registering voters.
In the end, we really have little, or so low a number of fraud that we can indeed have great confidence in our elections. If only people would believe the facts. We have mistakes for sure, but not at a level to overturn an election. We should continue to be vigilant, the government should continue to spend $$$ to make voting more secure, but all of this should be done with an eye to reality.
The reality that in our recent history, the instances of actual voter fraud, are exceedingly rare, and only in two southern states, has that fraud ever causes an election to be overturned.
Dave, thank you for that thoughtful and accurate comment.
I'll await skud's reaction to facts, and his appreciation of your research and setting things straight.
HOWEVER! Skud and his friends at the Mother Ship never respond to these facts. They've bought into GOP and Trumpian lies about fraud, and it is impossible for them to believe anything that would show them the error of their beliefs.
We'll see if skud even bothers to read and comment on what you wrote.
Rev, I am glad you admit there was fraud even if it was to a small degree. Ms Shaw, yes I do believe the 2016 election had fraudulent votes and every election since the beginning of elections. There is nothing to show t would have changed the results but there was fraud.
To respond to your media references, they are a very small audience of like minded people where the remainder are not left leaning but true haters of the right.
When are you going to get the trump vaccine.
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