General John Kelly: "He said that, in his opinion, Mr. Trump met the definition of a fascist, would govern like a dictator if allowed, and had no understanding of the Constitution or the concept of rule of law."
Tuesday, February 28, 2017
Lord Dampnut's Address to Joint Session of Congress as a BINGO Game
A trillion in infrastructure and the largest military budge increase in U.S. history(his words) all paid for by tax cuts thanks to the Laffer curve, I guess. Yes, their going to try that one again.
The new special department to investigate crimes by immigrants seemed a nice touch to the evening's general paranoia.
I didn't watch any of it. He nauseates me, and I wasn't feeling too great to begin with.
Someone said he finally acted like a president? Apparently he gave an Oscar-worthy performance. He's still and always will be a thin-skinned bully. And a con. That's what he truly is.
RN: "Even Van Jones said he became President tonight."
The guy who said the press is "the enemy of the people" can NEVER be an American president. No matter how many performances he pulls off. The guy who seeks to ban certain religious people from coming to this country can NEVER be an American president.
I didn't fall for the jackass -- which is what he really is -- a braying jackass mouthing what his intellectual betters tell him to mouth to "look presidential."
Jones, while saying he disagreed with much, lauded Trumps efforts to honor the legacy of the SEAL who died in Yemen.
He felt the way he treated the widow was indeed presidential.
If there are moments he does good, we should say so, as Jones did, or fin the risk of becoming what we criticized for 8 years as the GOP savaged Pres Obama... nothing more that crazed always complaining loonies...
Dave: "Jones, while saying he disagreed with much, lauded Trumps efforts to honor the legacy of the SEAL who died in Yemen."
SK: I have two problems with that. One, Trump blamed the failure of the mission and death of the Navy SEAL on "the generals." He did not utter the words "I take responsibility," as did President Obama and Secretary Clinton. Two, Ryan Owens' father, like other Americans, have questions about why Trump went forward with the action and where he was during the mission? Answer: He was tweeting out another inane tweet.
Dave: "If there are moments he does good, we should say so, as Jones did, or fin the risk of becoming what we criticized for 8 years as the GOP savaged Pres Obama... nothing more that crazed always complaining loonies..."
SK: President Obama didn't come close to behaving like Trump has as president. We've witnessed him calling members of the press (and indirectly the 1st Amendment) "enemies of the American people." He's been petty in his unceasing tweets about the size of crowds, SNL skits, Meryl Streep, and dozens more insignificant issues that a serious president should ignore.
Should we forget his rambling, chaotic presser? His constant blaming and accusing others for his faults and missteps? His misogyny, racism, xenophobia, mendacity?
Do you know what a battered wife syndrome is? This is how I see the Trump presidency. But I refuse to be the battered wife in this analogy. So, if he manages a non-crazy speech once in awhile, that doesn't erase the outrageous lies, misrepresentations, baseless accusations, and shameful pettiness that is the hallmark of his presidency.
His latest, just before his address to Congress, was to accuse President Obama for the recent attacks against the Jewish community! Have we become so inured to his outrageous and incomprehensible lying that we accept this and carry on as though these things did not come from him just because he "acted presidential" in one isolated moment in time?
I'd like to know what justified President Obama's detractors' constant savaging of him and his family was. Policy differences? His vacations? His temperament? His treatment of minorities? World leaders? Women? POWs? Gold Star families? Vacation time?
Now compare any of that with what we've witnessed in a little over a month of the man, Trump, and his presidency.
Sometimes, certain oppositional attitudes are justified.
IMO, Trump is an aberration. I won't normalize him.
Shaw... there's no defending the right and their treatment of Pres Obama. In fact, they've taken to outright insanity looking at Trump. Just yesterday, the Mothership noted that Obama, unlike Trump, was treated with civility, including during his addresses to Congress. I guess calling him a liar in the House is in fact, civil.
They are clueless and wanted nothing more than to destroy his presidency. They claimed he only wanted to destroy America. They claimed he was un American. they claimed he lied repeatedly. They claimed he said my, and I too much in his speeches. They claimed he wore dark suits. They picked at everything. Which is their right.
But what isn't their right is to pretend it did not happen.
I am sorry but the extremist right wing did do those things and now are aghast that the left is doing it to DJT.
I wish we weren't.
And I, like you, will not "normalize' DJT. But when he does good, we should acknowledge it. And last night, for a few minutes, he honored that Navy SEAL. Good on him for that. Last night.
Now we return to bashing him for failing to take responsibility, stop lying, making promises he will never keep, making America a mockery around the world, spending too much on vacations and not even having the good sense to have a dog!
We're not talking about "normalizing" Trump Shaw, not at all. But, the shift in tone was remarkable. If, and it may be a big if, the guy maintains this tone and accomplishes even 30% of what he promised those who voted for him, the economy statys robust and people continue to do better, Dave will be proven to be right. The left runs the risk of becoming the right in this scenario if it continurs in the emotional and personal attack mode. It may even result in his reelection.
Criticize policy and present facts, with many verifiable and credible sources. Point out his hypocrisy. Offer better alternatives. But, don't becomne him in tone. It very likely will backfire. We must be smart about this. Trmp ain't a dunce, and, he showed t last night.
Now savage the falsehoods in his address. But show some respect. He is the president wether we like it or not and most Americans believe you respect the office. Play it smart.
BTW, being respectful and playing smart does not a lesser progressive make.
Dave: "...the Mothership noted that Obama, unlike Trump, was treated with civility, including during his addresses to Congress..."
Like Trump, those people do not believe in self-reflection, and they have convenient, selective memories.
A Republican US Representative shouted "YOU LIE!" during Mr. Obama's speech to a joint session of Congress. Do those people deliberately forget or are their minds completely full of cement? Did they forget that Republican committee chairpersons in state organizations passed around racist photos of Mr. Obama and his family? That US Senators and Representative and an ex-mayor of a major American city as well as the present POTUS questioned Mr. Obama's citizenship, thereby casting doubts for 8 years on Mr. Obama's legitimacy as president? That's civility?
Those people, as I've said, are terminal. There's no hope for them; they're lost souls. That very blog allowed one of their regulars to advocate for the assassination of Mr. Obama, and that comment was left standing, while the other commenters laughed and agreed. That's their idea of civility?
Dave, that one moment when Trump acknowledged William Ryan Owens' sacrifice was scripted. Never forget. Since Owens' tragic death, Trump has been in front of the cameras many times, but he never spontaneously said a word about his death. He had to have a staffer write those words because you and I and everyone who's paying attention know that this president is not capable of common human decency. We've seen that since before June 2015.
When a 70 year old man has to be told how to show compassion, empathy, and human decency because he doesn't know how to spontaneously do it himself, then I can't be hopeful for much.
I judge him by what he says unfiltered and unscripted, and it's worse than awful. The lies, the disparagement, the unfounded accusations, the blaming, he boasting, all of it sickens one to the core. He said some nice words about a military hero who died on a mission that the president blamed on his generals. I'm not moved or impressed by that at all. It sickens me.
RN, let's see what Trump accomplishes. Increasing spending while decreasing revenue and cutting services to the most vulnerable sounds familiar, doesn't it? Haven't we gone done that failure of a road once before?
As for calling him out for inaccuracies and downright lies, I've done that by publishing Robert Reich's list of them in the post above this one.
During that process, known as "dignified transfer," Owens' father said he did not want to meet the President and questioned the decision to launch the raid.
"Why at this time did there have to be this stupid mission when it wasn’t even barely a week into his administration?" he said. "The government owes my son an investigation."
White House press secretary Sean Spicer said Monday that the raid will undergo three reviews, but said it "was successful."
NBC News reported Monday, however, citing unnamed senior U.S. officials, that the raid had produced no “actionable intelligence.”
Trump seemed to shirk his own responsibilities as commander in chief earlier on Tuesday, placing the responsibility for the raid on military leaders.
“This was a mission that was started before I got here. This was something they wanted to do,” he said. "And they lost Ryan."
President Donald Trump said Tuesday that a U.S. commando killed during the first counter-terrorism operation of his term was "very happy" after his widow received an extensive standing ovation during Trump's speech to Congress.
"I think he just broke a record," Trump said.
Trump said that Chief Special Warfare Operator William "Ryan" Owens died "a warrior and a hero, battling against terrorism and securing our nation."
Congress gave Carryn Owens, his widow, an extensive standing ovation. Owens attended the address as Trump's guest.
"And Ryan is looking down, right now, you know that?" Trump said. "And he's very happy, because I think he just broke a record."
So Chief Special Warfare Operator Owens is "very happy?" Because he broke a record?
Wouldn't it be safe to say that C.S.W.O. Owens would be "very happy" to be alive and with his family, not because he broke some applause record. But of course, that's the sort of thing that impresses Trump, big applause and a standing O. What a putz.
Dave, one other thing I've noticed. Remember when Mr. Obama was president and the "Sunday Faith Bloggers" questioned his Christianity and criticized his church attendance?
How often have we seen Trump and his lovely third wife, Melania, leaving Sunday services in Washington DC, or Manhattan, or Florida? Seems the "Sunday Faith Bloggers" have nothing to say about that, eh?
19 comments:
Trump earned his Oscar tonight. Even Van Jones said he became President tonight.
Fact checking will be fun for sure. But, if he keeps tonight's tone going forward like Van Jones said he'll be there for 8 years.
Which given much of his agenda would not be good at many levels.
Time to tamp down the rhetoric of personal attack and stick to the facts. Hit the facts hard and from all angles.
It was worse than I imagined it could be.
A trillion in infrastructure and the largest military budge increase in U.S. history(his words) all paid for by tax cuts
thanks to the Laffer curve, I guess. Yes, their going to try that one again.
The new special department to investigate crimes by immigrants seemed a nice touch to the evening's general paranoia.
Who fell for that crap?
One speech does not make Lord Dampnut normal. He must not be normalized. He's crazy.
Ducky: "Who fell for that crap?"
His delusional supporters.
I didn't watch any of it. He nauseates me, and I wasn't feeling too great to begin with.
Someone said he finally acted like a president? Apparently he gave an Oscar-worthy performance. He's still and always will be a thin-skinned bully. And a con. That's what he truly is.
RN: "Even Van Jones said he became President tonight."
The guy who said the press is "the enemy of the people" can NEVER be an American president. No matter how many performances he pulls off. The guy who seeks to ban certain religious people from coming to this country can NEVER be an American president.
I didn't fall for the jackass -- which is what he really is -- a braying jackass mouthing what his intellectual betters tell him to mouth to "look presidential."
Ducky... who? AOW...
Jones, while saying he disagreed with much, lauded Trumps efforts to honor the legacy of the SEAL who died in Yemen.
He felt the way he treated the widow was indeed presidential.
If there are moments he does good, we should say so, as Jones did, or fin the risk of becoming what we criticized for 8 years as the GOP savaged Pres Obama... nothing more that crazed always complaining loonies...
Dave: "Jones, while saying he disagreed with much, lauded Trumps efforts to honor the legacy of the SEAL who died in Yemen."
SK: I have two problems with that. One, Trump blamed the failure of the mission and death of the Navy SEAL on "the generals." He did not utter the words "I take responsibility," as did President Obama and Secretary Clinton. Two, Ryan Owens' father, like other Americans, have questions about why Trump went forward with the action and where he was during the mission? Answer: He was tweeting out another inane tweet.
Dave: "If there are moments he does good, we should say so, as Jones did, or fin the risk of becoming what we criticized for 8 years as the GOP savaged Pres Obama... nothing more that crazed always complaining loonies..."
SK: President Obama didn't come close to behaving like Trump has as president. We've witnessed him calling members of the press (and indirectly the 1st Amendment) "enemies of the American people." He's been petty in his unceasing tweets about the size of crowds, SNL skits, Meryl Streep, and dozens more insignificant issues that a serious president should ignore.
Should we forget his rambling, chaotic presser? His constant blaming and accusing others for his faults and missteps? His misogyny, racism, xenophobia, mendacity?
Do you know what a battered wife syndrome is? This is how I see the Trump presidency. But I refuse to be the battered wife in this analogy. So, if he manages a non-crazy speech once in awhile, that doesn't erase the outrageous lies, misrepresentations, baseless accusations, and shameful pettiness that is the hallmark of his presidency.
His latest, just before his address to Congress, was to accuse President Obama for the recent attacks against the Jewish community! Have we become so inured to his outrageous and incomprehensible lying that we accept this and carry on as though these things did not come from him just because he "acted presidential" in one isolated moment in time?
I'd like to know what justified President Obama's detractors' constant savaging of him and his family was. Policy differences? His vacations? His temperament? His treatment of minorities? World leaders? Women? POWs? Gold Star families? Vacation time?
Now compare any of that with what we've witnessed in a little over a month of the man, Trump, and his presidency.
Sometimes, certain oppositional attitudes are justified.
IMO, Trump is an aberration. I won't normalize him.
Shaw... there's no defending the right and their treatment of Pres Obama. In fact, they've taken to outright insanity looking at Trump. Just yesterday, the Mothership noted that Obama, unlike Trump, was treated with civility, including during his addresses to Congress. I guess calling him a liar in the House is in fact, civil.
They are clueless and wanted nothing more than to destroy his presidency. They claimed he only wanted to destroy America. They claimed he was un American. they claimed he lied repeatedly. They claimed he said my, and I too much in his speeches. They claimed he wore dark suits. They picked at everything. Which is their right.
But what isn't their right is to pretend it did not happen.
I am sorry but the extremist right wing did do those things and now are aghast that the left is doing it to DJT.
I wish we weren't.
And I, like you, will not "normalize' DJT. But when he does good, we should acknowledge it. And last night, for a few minutes, he honored that Navy SEAL. Good on him for that. Last night.
Now we return to bashing him for failing to take responsibility, stop lying, making promises he will never keep, making America a mockery around the world, spending too much on vacations and not even having the good sense to have a dog!
We're not talking about "normalizing" Trump Shaw, not at all. But, the shift in tone was remarkable. If, and it may be a big if, the guy maintains this tone and accomplishes even 30% of what he promised those who voted for him, the economy statys robust and people continue to do better, Dave will be proven to be right. The left runs the risk of becoming the right in this scenario if it continurs in the emotional and personal attack mode. It may even result in his reelection.
Criticize policy and present facts, with many verifiable and credible sources. Point out his hypocrisy. Offer better alternatives. But, don't becomne him in tone. It very likely will backfire. We must be smart about this. Trmp ain't a dunce, and, he showed t last night.
Now savage the falsehoods in his address. But show some respect. He is the president wether we like it or not and most Americans believe you respect the office. Play it smart.
BTW, being respectful and playing smart does not a lesser progressive make.
Dave: "...the Mothership noted that Obama, unlike Trump, was treated with civility, including during his addresses to Congress..."
Like Trump, those people do not believe in self-reflection, and they have convenient, selective memories.
A Republican US Representative shouted "YOU LIE!" during Mr. Obama's speech to a joint session of Congress. Do those people deliberately forget or are their minds completely full of cement? Did they forget that Republican committee chairpersons in state organizations passed around racist photos of Mr. Obama and his family? That US Senators and Representative and an ex-mayor of a major American city as well as the present POTUS questioned Mr. Obama's citizenship, thereby casting doubts for 8 years on Mr. Obama's legitimacy as president? That's civility?
Those people, as I've said, are terminal. There's no hope for them; they're lost souls. That very blog allowed one of their regulars to advocate for the assassination of Mr. Obama, and that comment was left standing, while the other commenters laughed and agreed. That's their idea of civility?
Dave, that one moment when Trump acknowledged William Ryan Owens' sacrifice was scripted. Never forget. Since Owens' tragic death, Trump has been in front of the cameras many times, but he never spontaneously said a word about his death. He had to have a staffer write those words because you and I and everyone who's paying attention know that this president is not capable of common human decency. We've seen that since before June 2015.
When a 70 year old man has to be told how to show compassion, empathy, and human decency because he doesn't know how to spontaneously do it himself, then I can't be hopeful for much.
I judge him by what he says unfiltered and unscripted, and it's worse than awful. The lies, the disparagement, the unfounded accusations, the blaming, he boasting, all of it sickens one to the core. He said some nice words about a military hero who died on a mission that the president blamed on his generals. I'm not moved or impressed by that at all. It sickens me.
RN, let's see what Trump accomplishes. Increasing spending while decreasing revenue and cutting services to the most vulnerable sounds familiar, doesn't it? Haven't we gone done that failure of a road once before?
As for calling him out for inaccuracies and downright lies, I've done that by publishing Robert Reich's list of them in the post above this one.
From Talking Points Memo:
During that process, known as "dignified transfer," Owens' father said he did not want to meet the President and questioned the decision to launch the raid.
"Why at this time did there have to be this stupid mission when it wasn’t even barely a week into his administration?" he said. "The government owes my son an investigation."
White House press secretary Sean Spicer said Monday that the raid will undergo three reviews, but said it "was successful."
NBC News reported Monday, however, citing unnamed senior U.S. officials, that the raid had produced no “actionable intelligence.”
Trump seemed to shirk his own responsibilities as commander in chief earlier on Tuesday, placing the responsibility for the raid on military leaders.
“This was a mission that was started before I got here. This was something they wanted to do,” he said. "And they lost Ryan."
Dear Gawd (TPM cont.):
President Donald Trump said Tuesday that a U.S. commando killed during the first counter-terrorism operation of his term was "very happy" after his widow received an extensive standing ovation during Trump's speech to Congress.
"I think he just broke a record," Trump said.
Trump said that Chief Special Warfare Operator William "Ryan" Owens died "a warrior and a hero, battling against terrorism and securing our nation."
Congress gave Carryn Owens, his widow, an extensive standing ovation. Owens attended the address as Trump's guest.
"And Ryan is looking down, right now, you know that?" Trump said. "And he's very happy, because I think he just broke a record."
So Chief Special Warfare Operator Owens is "very happy?" Because he broke a record?
Wouldn't it be safe to say that C.S.W.O. Owens would be "very happy" to be alive and with his family, not because he broke some applause record. But of course, that's the sort of thing that impresses Trump, big applause and a standing O. What a putz.
Dave, one other thing I've noticed. Remember when Mr. Obama was president and the "Sunday Faith Bloggers" questioned his Christianity and criticized his church attendance?
How often have we seen Trump and his lovely third wife, Melania, leaving Sunday services in Washington DC, or Manhattan, or Florida? Seems the "Sunday Faith Bloggers" have nothing to say about that, eh?
Rank hypocrites. Nauseating hypocrites.
Trump can't show honor for anyone. He has none and he has no empathy either. He is amoral.
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