Paul Revere by Cyrus Dallin, North End, Boston



"I am proud to shut down the government for border security ... I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down. I’m not going to blame you for it." –Donald Trump

Monday, October 2, 2017

American Carnage

The shooter, Stephen Paddock, wasn't Muslim and he wasn't black so that's two agendas the right can't use. 

 At Least 50 Dead, 200 Wounded In Shooting At Las Vegas Country Music Festival 

It was the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history.  

At least 50 people were killed and 200 injured after a gunman opened fire on a country music festival in Las Vegas, Nevada. 

 The shooting was the deadliest in U.S. history. 

 The suspected attacker, later identified as Stephen Paddock, 64, shot at concertgoers from the 32nd floor of a nearby hotel. Police are still investigating the motive. A female person of interest, Marilou Danley, has been located by police.

Number of mass shootings in the United States between 1982 and 2017, by mass shooter's race and ethnicity

Number of incidents501577353
WhiteBlackLatinoAsianNative AmericanOtherUnknown

The statistic shows the number of mass shootings in the United States between 1982 and 2017, by race and ethnicity of the shooter(s). 

Between 1982 and July 2017, 50 out of 90 mass shootings were initiated by White shooters. 

The Orlando nightclub massacre in 2016 had the highest number of victims between 1982 and 2017, with 49 people killed, and 53 injured. 

Additional information on mass shooter profiles in the United States


Not much is known about Stephen Paddock, the shooter, but  we can agree that mentally healthy people don't massacre 50 people and wound 400 more. IMO, that alone shows some sort of mental illness:

FEB 28 2017, 

Trump Signs Bill Revoking Obama-Era Gun Checks for People With Mental Illnesses 

Donald Trump quietly signed a bill into law Tuesday rolling back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illnesses to purchase a gun.

 #45 sent his "warmest condolences" to the wounded and the victims' families.


Rational Nation USA said...

The injured toll is now at 400.

Domestic terrorism continues. Although it is unlikely Trump or his 30 something percent supporters will use such terms.

What will the criminal NRA have to say? Given past occurances of domestic terrorism it is likely it will laud 2'nd amendment rights and recommend MORE firearms in MORE people's hands. It is equally as likely Trump will support the lunacy.

We have the power of the ballet box, but, Americans simply lack the will to do the RIGHT THING.

The nation is stunned and horrified once again. But, as before, this too will likely pass into the record book without any meaningful action having been taken.

Shaw Kenawe said...

RN "The injured toll is now at 400."

I turned on the TV this AM and saw the reports and promptly turned it off. These shootings are as American as apple pie and will continue because the criminal organization, NRA, has a stranglehold on the cowards in Congress.

On another note: Imagine the howling outrage from the right wingers had the shooter's name been Mohammed. I wonder if they're even talking about the carnage.

2nd Amendment Carnage said...

"Yes. Enough is enough, so CONGRESSIONAL COWARDS! get off your dead asses, stable your high-horses, call this threat what it really is: DOMESTIC TERRORISM BY WHITE AMERICANS."

The worst massacre in America's sorry gun-soaked history wasn't perpetrated by "Mohammed," it was perpetrated by STEPHEN. Are there calls for kicking all the white Stephens who amass arsenals of death weapons out of the country? Of course not! That would be consistent. All you'll hear from the Hypocrites on the right is "thoughts and prayers and teddy bears" to the victims families and then they'll drift off into their somnambulant stupor, pretending this is all normal and fine as long as no one touches their precious 2nd Amendment.Someone said this before: Nothing was done when 20 babies were slaughtered in 2012. Why should we be upset now that 50 people are dead and 400 injured? The cowards in Congress and their enablers who support ALL WEAPONS TO ANYONE, EVEN MENTALLY ILL PEOPLE! ALL THE TIME! don't give a goddamn?

Rational Nation USA said...

Shaw, I suspect they are talking about the "occurance".

I fully expect the official response will be as customary and it will be forgotten by the rightwing within a the usual short period of time with nothing having been done to address domestic terrorism.

To your point if the shooter been Muslim and named Muhammad... We can be certain Trump and the rightwing would be calling it Islamic terrorism and vowing to defeat it, sparing no cost to do so.

The hypocrisy of Trump and the rightwing knows no boundaries.

The Truth Has Been Spoken said...

As for the Vegas shooting details I heard I figure the spin on this will be: old white guy, alt-right, Trump supporter, Republican, wealthy, gun nut. As such he will represent ALL white guys and Trump supporters and Republicans and successful people and supporters of the 2nd amendment. Oh, I forgot white privilege that will be part of the story too and it will be referred to as a massacre not just a shooting. It’s not going to be a week without dumb and stupidness I can see that now. Its going to be a long week.

My prayers go out for the victims and their families. May their souls and all the souls of the faithfully departed rest in peace. Amen.

Clearwater, Florida said...

The racists on the right believe somehow some way the shooter is connected to Islamists.

Never do they examine the realaity that is shown in the graph in Shaw's post:

50 out of the 90 mass shooting in America from 1982 to 2017 are by WHITE AMERICANS! Where's the right calling for mass deportation of white American males to some island to get them out of our population. Those righties call for the dportation of American Muslims just because they are Muslims and because the righties believe all Muslims aare murderers. This is by definition racism and the GOP is lousy with racists, the head racist GOPer being Trump himself.

Shaw Kenawe said...

T.T.H.B.S.: "As for the Vegas shooting details I heard I figure the spin on this will be: old white guy, alt-right, Trump supporter, Republican, wealthy, gun nut. As such he will represent ALL white guys..."

That's exactly how the extreme righties spin any mass shootings by Muslims. The extremists on the right believe all American Muslims should be deported and kicked out of their country of birth because some extremist Muslims commit mass murder. It's very telling that you are outraged with the possibility that white alt-right males will represent all white guys when that is precisely what the far right does to all Muslims.

Dave Miller said...

Actually I saw ppl saying he had to be a libtard since he was shooting at conservative CW music fans.

We have a fever and it's killing us...

Ray Cranston said...

Found on a far right blog:

Some 64 yr old white guy. Who wants to bet a libtard. They have his 62 yr old female roommate in custody. Information should be forthcoming. The democrats and their media are responsible for inciting these idiots.

When a Muslim commits mass murder, it's all Muslims need to be blamed. When a white American male commits mass murder, liberals and the media are blamed.

This is an example of the deep sickness that is today's Republican Party. That commenter is among the stupidest, but he is typical.

PS. The police have clear Paddock girlfriend. She is not a "person of interest." But that fact doesn't stop the idiots from trying to make this Obama's fault, liberal's fault, media's fault.

Those people put ttrump in the WH and they still support him. Talk about mental illnesses!

Shaw Kenawe said...

Ray, Dave, Clearwater, 2nd Amendment Carnage, and RN

Joan McCarter of D.K.: "Republicans will surely point out that we don't know that the Las Vegas shooter would have been among those included in the ban. That's totally beside the point. The willingness of these Republicans to do absolutely anything the NRA asks them to, including this upcoming planned vote to lift 80-year-old restrictions on gun silencers, makes them culpable for this massacre. Their response to every mass murder in the last decade has been to make guns easier to get.

Their response to 20 six and seven-year old children being slaughtered was to do nothing, then at the first opportunity to undo the one thing Obama tried to do to bring an end to the slaughter.

So, yeah, we're going to politicize the hell out of this. This is on the head of every Republican in Congress who enabled it."

Anonymous said...

Nothing new. The far right is pinning this massacre on "libtard" Paddock instead of faulting allowing semi-auatomatic weapons to be sold to any nut case or mentally ill American. Leave it to the right wingers to run away fro any responsibility they have in supporting the NRA and their blood-soaked agendas. When it was apparent that Paddock was not Muslim, they tried to shift the blame to Muslims because of his girlfriend who is an Indonesian Muslim. Never do they consider that 50 people are dead and 400 wounded because of our insane gun laws.

Patsy O’neil said...

Ah, but do we really know that he wasn’t a converted Muslim?
No we don’t, so like Obama said so often, “ Let’s not jump to concussions “!

Dave Miller said...

My favorite was someone speculating that maybe the shooter had a issue with big Vegas style hotels.

Ducky's here said...

It is legal to own full automatic weapons (including machine guns) in Nevada,
The state has the loosest firearm laws in the nation .

I'm sure the gunman needed ten full auto weapons for his personal protection.

Shaw Kenawe said...

The Shooter Was a ‘Local Individual’ & Police Do Not Believe It Was an Act of Terrorism ‘At This Point’

Shooting and killing 50 people and injuring 400+ isn't an act of terror? What would the definition of "terror" be then?

Infidel753 said...

What would the definition of "terror" be then?

Terrorism is generally defined as including some kind of ideological motive (political, religious, etc.). The violence of jihadists, abortion-clinic bombers, and the KKK qualifies as terrorism because it's intended to intimidate people into submission to the ideology of the killers, not because of the number of victims killed, which may be low in any one incident. Somebody who murders his wife or boss isn't considered a "terrorist" even if he kills several other people at the same time (relatives or whatever).

It may be that the Las Vegas shooter had some kind of terrorist agenda, or he may have had a purely personal motive or simply been crazy. It's fair to say we don't know yet.

As for making it harder for mentally-ill people to get guns, don't get your expectations up. We can't even for a national consensus that a mentally-ill man should not be in a job which gives him control of 7,000 nuclear weapons.