General John Kelly: "He said that, in his opinion, Mr. Trump met the definition of a fascist, would govern like a dictator if allowed, and had no understanding of the Constitution or the concept of rule of law."
(Columbus DID kill "a bunch of Indians" -- the Arawak people and wiped them off the face of the Earth. But don't confuse these willfully uneducated people with facts.)
"Columbus and his men round up Arawak men, women, and children and enclose 550 of them in pens and four caravels bound for the slave market of southern Spain during his second voyage to the New World. Approximately 200 perish during the passage, and their bodies are cast into the sea. After the survivors are sold as slaves in Spain, Columbus later writes: “Let us in the name of the Holy Trinity go on sending all the slaves that can be sold” (Resendez, 2016).
Additionally, while in Haiti, Columbus orders all Natives 14 years or older to collect a certain amount of gold every three months, an impossible task since there is so little gold there. If Arawak Natives do not collect enough, Columbus has their hands cut off and tortures them.
Bartolome de las Casas, a young priest, witnessed many atrocities committed by Spaniards against Native peoples. He later wrote: “I saw here cruelty on a scale no living being has ever seen or expects to see.” Las Casas describes the treatment of Natives thus: “Our work was to exasperate, ravage, kill, mangle and destroy; small wonder, then, if they tried to kill one of us now and then…. The admiral, it is true, was blind as those who came after him, and he was so anxious to please the King that he committed irreparable crimes against the Indians…” (Zinn, 1950). Las Casas also notes that the Spaniards “thought nothing of knifing Indians by tens and twenties and of cutting slices off them to test the sharpness of their blades.”
bunkerville continues:
"Growing up, Columbus Day and it’s[sic] annual parade were a big deal to our community, which was probably around 70% Italian-American.
We didn’t quibble about where he landed or whatever damage he mighta done. We just celebrated the man because he had the b***s to do something that we thought nobody else had the b***s to do.
(Is he referring to committing genocide on innocent native peoples? Yeah, I guess HE WOULD believe that took "balls." And bunkerville and people whining about changing Columbus Day to Indigenous People's Day admire it.)
The problem, Dear Reader, is that those folks stopped reading history after the 5th grade and took everything they were fed as "the truth" of what the European explorers did in the New World. They still have that 5th grade mentality about Columbus and the history of what he and his men did.
Here's an idea, why not celebrate Amerigo Vespucci Day in addition to Indigenous People's Day, since it was Vespucci who actually discovered the western hemisphere land masses that later were named North and South America -- "America" being the feminized version of "Amerigo."
Vespucci was a well respected navigator and cartographer, and AFAIK, didn't commit genocide on any of the native peoples in the New World.
I'm glad the German clergyman and amateur cartographer, Martin Waldseemüller, used Amerigo's first name in naming the continents rather than his last name. Otherwise we'd be singing "God Bless Vespucci Land!"
Bernie Sanders @SenSanders · 2h We owe Native Americans an enormous debt. From the first days of this country, they were lied to, their treaties violated, and their needs ignored. Today, on Indigenous Peoples’ Day, let us recommit to standing with them in the fight for long overdue justice.
Salvatore, Salvatore, have you any idea just how foolish you sound? As well as completely ignorant of compassion and decency. What the asshole Columbus did to indigenous peoples was immoral and therefore just plain WRONG At ever level. If you don't see the problem with what Columbus did to people, people just like us, then you are no better than Columbus was.
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There are many people who still don't "get it:"
"bunkerville says:
We grew up with a lot of myths. The one that has Columbus ‘discovering’ America is one of the biggest, but…
Don’t tear his head off just because somebody else killed a bunch of Indians."
It amazes me how willfully blind people continue to be concerning this:
Columbus enslaves the Arawak and commits genocide
(Columbus DID kill "a bunch of Indians" -- the Arawak people and wiped them off the face of the Earth. But don't confuse these willfully uneducated people with facts.)
"Columbus and his men round up Arawak men, women, and children and enclose 550 of them in pens and four caravels bound for the slave market of southern Spain during his second voyage to the New World. Approximately 200 perish during the passage, and their bodies are cast into the sea. After the survivors are sold as slaves in Spain, Columbus later writes: “Let us in the name of the Holy Trinity go on sending all the slaves that can be sold” (Resendez, 2016).
Additionally, while in Haiti, Columbus orders all Natives 14 years or older to collect a certain amount of gold every three months, an impossible task since there is so little gold there. If Arawak Natives do not collect enough, Columbus has their hands cut off and tortures them.
Bartolome de las Casas, a young priest, witnessed many atrocities committed by Spaniards against Native peoples. He later wrote: “I saw here cruelty on a scale no living being has ever seen or expects to see.” Las Casas describes the treatment of Natives thus: “Our work was to exasperate, ravage, kill, mangle and destroy; small wonder, then, if they tried to kill one of us now and then…. The admiral, it is true, was blind as those who came after him, and he was so anxious to please the King that he committed irreparable crimes against the Indians…” (Zinn, 1950). Las Casas also notes that the Spaniards “thought nothing of knifing Indians by tens and twenties and of cutting slices off them to test the sharpness of their blades.”
bunkerville continues:
"Growing up, Columbus Day and it’s[sic] annual parade were a big deal to our community, which was probably around 70% Italian-American.
We didn’t quibble about where he landed or whatever damage he mighta done. We just celebrated the man because he had the b***s to do something that we thought nobody else had the b***s to do.
(Is he referring to committing genocide on innocent native peoples? Yeah, I guess HE WOULD believe that took "balls." And bunkerville and people whining about changing Columbus Day to Indigenous People's Day admire it.)
The problem, Dear Reader, is that those folks stopped reading history after the 5th grade and took everything they were fed as "the truth" of what the European explorers did in the New World. They still have that 5th grade mentality about Columbus and the history of what he and his men did.
The person who wrote this actually teaches young people!
"Again, I agree…Columbus STATUES MUST STAY! HE did have guts, as BUNKERVILLE reminds us, and he IS part of our history, whether he actually IS or NOT!
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Here's an idea, why not celebrate Amerigo Vespucci Day in addition to Indigenous People's Day, since it was Vespucci who actually discovered the western hemisphere land masses that later were named North and South America -- "America" being the feminized version of "Amerigo."
Vespucci was a well respected navigator and cartographer, and AFAIK, didn't commit genocide on any of the native peoples in the New World.
I'm glad the German clergyman and amateur cartographer, Martin Waldseemüller, used Amerigo's first name in naming the continents rather than his last name. Otherwise we'd be singing "God Bless Vespucci Land!"
Most companies dumped Columbus Day as a holiday years ago. Time for the government to do it too.
And white Americans of European descent coninued the racism and brutal mistreatment of the only true Americans started by the racist Columbus.
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We owe Native Americans an enormous debt. From the first days of this country, they were lied to, their treaties violated, and their needs ignored. Today, on Indigenous Peoples’ Day, let us recommit to standing with them in the fight for long overdue justice.
It's a little late to honor or show respect to the original indigenous people of this land. We already destroyed them.
Salvatore, Salvatore, have you any idea just how foolish you sound? As well as completely ignorant of compassion and decency. What the asshole Columbus did to indigenous peoples was immoral and therefore just plain WRONG At ever level. If you don't see the problem with what Columbus did to people, people just like us, then you are no better than Columbus was.
Enjoy your karma when it catches up up you.
Les
Trolls are commenting here because I've suspended Comment Moderation, and I did that because Infidel753's comments were not getting through. I don't know why.
I made the determination that Infidel753's comments were worth my having to police Comments for trolls, as I have been over the past week. Sometimes it takes a few hours before I get to the delete button, since I have a somewhat busy life.
I ask you, and my other commenters, to ignore the trolls unless, of course, they post something really dreadful. (O Dear! That may mean you and others will have to counter their idiocy with facts!)
Thanks.
We need to give back the colonies and have them pay reparations for stealing the Native American's land.
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