The men’s team also won their third Olympic gold ever; but despite equal work and equal outcomes, the response was very different.
The men got a personal visit from the FBI director and a call from the president.
The women’s team, by contrast, was mocked by Trump and laughed at by the male athletes.
It’s a reaction we see too often. Not just in sports, but at work too. Highly qualified, remarkable women being treated as second class citizens.
We need to call it out every time."
Trump, again, failed at leadership. His inability to acknowledge the US women's hockey team, as he acknowledged the US men's team, for their remarkable achievement shows us what a sickening misogynist he is.
PS: The last time we heard "locker room talk" by Trump was when he bragged about sexually assaulting women, because he's a "star."
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Trump is, in every respect, America's Nero. Except Trump is not just watching as America burns both at home but globally, he is the engine and the fuel causing the fire. A fire gleefully supported by his cult and sycophants.
When someone defines everything as us versus them, they should not be surprised when it comes back around to them.
We've always had partisan, political differences in the US. But it has only been in recent history that those politics became personal, pointed, rude and demeaning.
We used to have political opponents. Now we have political enemies. We used to have good people with whom we disagreed. Now those people hate America. We used to work to convince and win people to our side. Now they are deplorable.
Not so much anymore.
I would much rather watch women compete than men and now that I have seen women's hockey I'm a fan. The LPGA is far more entertaining to watch because of the skill they have. Unfortunately all this may change if they allow men to compete in women's sports. Title nine was a great advancement for women's sports and it is under threat.
The idea that women should be paid the same as men is something I can't support not because they are less talented but because the revenue is not the same.
What do you mean by “the revenue is not the same?”
So should a female United States senator, in your opinion, not be paid the same as a male US senator? Should a female president be paid less than a male president? I’m not understanding what you mean.
Women, regardless of being women, should be paid the same as men regardless of job function in so long as they demonstrate their competencecy.
What skud must be refering to us the greater revenue brought in by me in sports. It is after all the capitalist way. Whoever creates the greatest wealth for the owner(s) receives the greater income for their efforts.
Capitalism has never been about fairness or equality.
Shaw, I think what Skud is saying relates to pay versus gross income. For example... the arena for the LV Aces WNBA basketball team, three time champions, will never gross enough to pay mens NBA salaries.
So what do we do? Same with, although the disparity is smaller, soccer.
It's a simple question of mathematics. Lebron James makes $52 million a year for the LA Lakers. Aja Wilson, the best player in the WNBA and an Aces player, makes $200K.
Since the Aces will never have the gate receipts the Lakers do, how do we work through that?
The same is true for golf. The sponsorships and gate receipts just don't match those for the Men's Tour, so salaries suffer.
That's the view from athletics.
Teachers? Scientists? Lawyers? Etc.? Even it up. Doctors? Nurses? 100%. Senators, Congresspeople? All the same.
But I don't see how we get there sportswise...
Well, maybe not in our lifetimes. But women’s sports is becoming more and more popular. Not by leaps and bounds, but by small steps.
Some cultures have always treated women on a more equal basis. At least philosophically and spiritually. The Sikhs are one example. Women in their culture are years ahead of Western culture, especially the US with respect to women and how society treats them.
B a c k t o s k u d' s c o m m e n t:
When profit dictates women will not acheive equality in pay to men in sports until women gross as much revenue as men's sports do. The bottom line, profit on gross revenue is all that really matters to owners.
Wow Ms. Shaw, I really didn't see my statement is being difficult to understand but I forgot everything I say is based on political sway so I understand.
"Revenue is the total income a business generates from selling goods or services" There is far more revenue generated in men's sports than women's. Less TV revenue, fewer spectators and fewer sponsors mean less money for prize money. You can understand that can't you or do you need additional clarification.
As to politicians pay I support a citizen congress who meet several times a year and get paid a per diem, not professional politicians who become millionaires in a few years and do nothing to improve your or my life. How do become a multi millionaire without being crooked.
skud, still living in 1781.
Oh skud, for a minute I forgot that EVERYTHING in America, even your worth as a human being, is based on how much money you have, how much $$$ you can earn or you can generate for a corporation, and not on merit and talent.
And if you're a billion billionaire, you can even get away with crimes!
Pardonnez-moi.
A friend sent this to me in an email today:
"For the sixth straight Olympics, U.S. women have won more gold medals than the men. Six consecutive Games.
That is sustained dominance. That is institutional excellence. That is not coincidence. That is not luck. That is discipline. That is sacrifice. That is women carrying the standard year after year and still being asked to smile politely while someone else holds the microphone.
And still the reflex centers the men first. Still the phone call goes to them. Still the joke reduces the women to a technicality. Still the laughter signals comfort with that framing.
When women carry the standard year after year and are still reduced to a punchline, men do not get to shrug it off as a moment. The reaction matters. Laughter matters. It shows who feels centered and who does not.
And then came the contrast. The women declined the State of the Union invitation. They did not laugh. They did not attach themselves to a narrative that diminished them. They did not perform gratitude for conditional recognition. They chose dignity. That is power."
Your words "So should a female United States senator, in your opinion, not be paid the same as a male US senator?" Guess it comes down to money in some eyes.
Women are generally stronger than men, intellectually and emotionally. Which is why wise men know why Women have earned the identiy The Divine Feminine.
And, their phtsical capabilities, stamina and resilience are just as ttrainable as men.
Maybe they should play... ala Billie Jean King....
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