The far right Goopers dislike John McCain and they favor the man who disregarded his own national security advisors and actually congratulated Vladimir Putin who is a dictator, a man who rigged the elections, and a man who poisons and murders his oppostion.
The far right bloggers -- you know, the ones who call themselves the REAL Americans -- favor Trump over McCain.
You remember John McCain, right? He's the man who was a POW, who was tortured for five and a half years while Cadet Bone Spurs was bragging about getting so much p***y that he feard getting a STD -- "his own Vietnam," in his words. That's the guy who represents the Republican Party and that's the guy who is currently disgracing America.
An American president does not lead the Free World by congratulating dictators on winning sham elections. And by doing so with Vladimir Putin, President Trump insulted every Russian citizen who was denied the right to vote in a free and fair election. mccain.senate.gov/public/index.c…
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"DO NOT CONGRATULATE" Putin
And yet the American "president" did .
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Is there anyone, except the self-deceivers on the far right, who doubts that Trump and the current GOP won the 2016 election by cheating and through Russian interference?
The current GOP is more like a Mafia gang than a political party, and its Don is destroying America and all she's represents in the world.
EXCLUSIVE: Cambridge Analytica bosses say they “ran all the digital campaign” for Donald Trump - including potentially illegal activities. channel4.com/news/exposed-u… #CambridgeAnalyticaUSA
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Congratulating Putin on his win is called diplomacy and it is the same thing Obama did in 2012. At the time Putin pulled Obama out of the fire over his line in the sand threat with Syria who was killing millions of their own people with the backing of Putin. It has never been said if Valarie advised against it so we won't know if he went against advice.
Now gathering information is stealing elections. If that is the case polls should be outlawed. Was the action of Donna Brazile not illegal because she gave -H- the questions to a debate. How about the DNC eliminating bernie for the race.
Hillary lost because she was a terrible choice to run, the DNC was clueless and for once the republicans ran a better campaign. Their choice of candidate was horrible but it does show how much of a better campaign they ran.
When Bernie was complaining about the lack of support he was getting from the DNC and the media wasn't giving him time. The DNC and media was silent because -H- had won and there was no need.
skudrunner said...
"Congratulating Putin on his win is called diplomacy and it is the same thing Obama did in 2012."
I knew it was only a matter of time before a Trump apologist would come running here to say OBAMA DID IT TOOOOOOO!!!!
Here's the thing, skud. Had Russia interfered in America's electoral process when Mr. Obama called? There IS a difference, y'know. Even if Trumpistas are not able to understand the moral differences, other Americans do.
ALSO: President Obama, unlike #45, did not ignore any advice from his security advisors to NOT CONGRATULATE.
Why do you suppose Trump's own security team did that? It wasn't the Democrats telling #45 not to congratulate, it was his ow GOP team. Did it ever occur to you and your fellow apologists why that is?
I didn't think so.
Sometimes, one of these things is NOT like the other.
And the reason we have Trump as preznit is because people likThee you, skud, don't stop to think about these things. It's all a game to you: Trump does something outrageous, and you Goopers go looking for something that Mr. Obama did so you can say HE DID IT TOOOOOO!
In this case, you and your fellow Trumpistas are horribly wrong. Horribly. You're all turning yourselves inside out to defend the indefensible.
The rest of your comment is nothing more than trying to change the subject of this post, and trying to say the Democrats are just as bad.
Special Counsel Mueller will have the last word on that. Not you.
Skud... did Nixon ever... ever congratulate Brezhnev on his string of great victories when he ran the USSR? Of course not.
Did past US presidents congratulate Chairman Mao when he won elections in China? Of course not.
Did any US president congratulate Khomeini or Gaddafi on their presidential wins when they were dictators of their countries? Of course not.
Because US presidents do not congratulate brutal dictators on sham elections, even when they are "our" dictators.
Skud... I do have a question for you. Are you able to have a conversation without adding a snarky anti Dem comment? Seriously, I know Ducky and I can be pretty snarky sometimes, but you make us look like pikers.
What?!? Trump did something Obama did? I’m amazed. Trump is trying to do everything the opposite of Obama.
Shaw... as we continue to contemplate what will shake the 35% group if support for Trump, consider this quote from Senator Bob Corker...
"People who tell me, who are out on trail, say, look, people don’t ask about issues anymore. They don’t care about issues. They want to know if you’re with Trump or not”
That about sums it up. The extreme bloggers are not dealing with the issues, choosing instead happy themes, open threads where they can talk about anything else other than Trump, show wonderfully slanted videos and just sit back and let comment strings run.
There is very little serious conversation in those stink holes because they've effectively decided an echo approval chamber is a better place. Maybe because it really was never about issues. It was, is and continues to be about anyone other than a candidate with a D after his or her name. Issues be damned.
From my fb friend G.G.:
"Every philosophy also conceals a philosophy; every opinion
is also a hiding place, every word a mask."
And you know it's true because it's Nietzsche. We read yesterday that the Pretender in Chief was warned by national security advisers and briefing materials: "DO NOT CONGRATULATE." Of course he did. He couldn't resist it because despite being a corrupt, greedy, and murderous despot with territorial ambition free of morality or conscience, he's Trump's hero.
He admires how the man has held all the power in Russia for so long, silenced and killed protesters and critics and rigged elections . Making America great again is wrapping paper for being Putin. His hat is a mask.
We read this morning of his latest fury at the leak of what was confidential. Apparently some patriot sees that we the people need to know what worm hides in the apple and I agree, we do. I desperately hope that Mr. Mueller has gathered enough data to put him away and that he acts soon before the choice is taken from our cold, dead Republic. I suspect that another head or two will roll, reprisals will be taken, more wild hair raging in the storm about revenge."
Dave, and this isn't an echo chamber?
Actually, I think skud is one of Obama’s and Clinton’s biggest fan. Without either one of them, he would have no way to justify Trump’s actions or words.
This is for skud's edification. Here's how that phone call to Putin in 2012 went down. It's not at all like what Trump did. Not even close. But skud seems to be interested only in trashing Mr. Obama or Hillary or any Democrat instead of looking at facts and the difference between Trump's congratulatory phone call and Mr. Obama's:
From Digby: "Recall that in 2012 there was a tremendous amount of hand-wringing over whether President Barack Obama should congratulate Vladimir Putin on his election "victory," especially after a campaign in which Putin had been especially belligerent toward the U.S. The New York Times reported that "the Obama administration fiercely debated how to respond to the Russian election, with some officials favoring a strong condemnation of the results." In the end, "the White House ultimately settled on a tempered statement, not directly congratulating Mr. Putin but saying 'the United States looks forward to working with the president-elect.'" The statement didn't mention Putin by name and the president waited five days before making the call."
So I guess Digby was in on the call. I don't excuse trump's behavior because I think it is outrages and not called for. I nor you know what Trump said in the call. That being said it is correct for a leader of one country to congratulate the leader of another country.
What is fact is Obama congratulated Putin in 2012 in spite of the fact Putin supported Syria in their mass killings of their own citizens.
JC, you are correct in the statement that I liked Clinton because he worked for all of the American people. His personal actions were disgusting but he was a diplomat of the highest caliber.
The idea that Russia rigged the election says little about the American voter and their desire for something other than elitist special interest career politicians. But from a coastie point of view, the Midwesterner who works for a living is stupid. Only the millionaires on the coasts know what is best.
skud — “JC, you are correct in the statement that I liked Clinton because he...”
skud, your sexism is showing. I was referring to Hilary Clinton, the same Clinton you mentioned along with Obama in your first comment.
Also remember the recent nerve agent attack that targeted former Russian double-agent Sergei Skripal and his daughter IN Great Britain, our ally. Trump didn't mention it. And this is against the backdrop of Trump's collusion with Russia. So he calls his boss to congratulate him on rigging his own election. After rigging the American election for Trump. Bad optics to say the least. #putinpuppet.
Anon... your presence proves that’s not true. The only ppl banned here are those that swear, use foul language or use incendiary language towards others. Even Skud, who never adds links to defend his points, gets to post.
Ducky, Shaw, RN and myself are banned from a host of conservative sites. One switched to Wordpress for the expressed purpose of banning us “left wingers.”
This is nothing like those other blogs...
You have SOME NERVER. Calling anyone. A Cheater. after worshipping the Clinton’s
tPoD:
My "NERVERs" are just fine. And I worship no politician. Your comment is not valid.
After the terrible massacre in Parkland, Florida, a group of students began hitting the trail of Talk Shows, News Shows, and other forms of Entertainment shows.
While I can understand their grief and the desperate wish to do something about this awful, and horrific attack.
In my humble opinion, the marching, cutting school, and parading of the students in Parkland, Florida all over the media is ludicrous, and ridicules.!
The Madman, or Criminals that do these things, don't give a damn about who they murder, or what happens to their loved ones left behind.
But the Democrats will blame the Republicans for anything and everything bad.
Being a survivor of a mass shooting does not instill a survivor with wisdom
What I forgot to mention in my last comment was the fact that our Government recently accused Russia of hacking into our energy grid. Another example of how "Obama did the same thing" does not QUITE apply. Russia didn't just interfere in our election, assassinate 2 people inside GB and hack into our electrical grid (or commit some other similar/comparable offenses) when Obama made his call.
As for the "Prince of Darkness", he said yesterday (on WYD) that he had been there only one day and he knew who the "creeps" are. Today he told Lisa that she has "loving friends" (people who post on her blog). Implying that he is a 2 day "loving friend" (I guess) and (I presume) excluding the "creeps".
"Being a survivor of a mass shooting does not instill a survivor with wisdom." --Anonymous
Really? That's easy to say for someone who's never had it happen to him or his children, but hard to imagine anyone with any humanity saying such rubbish.
Bravi to all the Parkland survivors and all who are energized to change the laws and the narrative on guns in this country.
More Americans support them than the apologists for the NRA.
Dervish, Of course there's a difference in what President Obama said to Putin and what #45 said in his congratulatory call to Putin. Only #45's blind followers don't get it. Who's surprised? They voted for a known liar, cheat, and fraud.
PoD is a regular WYD sock puppet. Everyone knows that, and everyone knows who it is.
Really, who is he?
The Shadow!
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