U.S. Troops Were Told Iran War Is for “Armageddon,”
Return of Jesus
Advocacy group reports commanders giving similar messages at more than 30 installations in every branch of the military
A combat-unit commander told non-commissioned officers at a briefing Monday that the Iran war is part of God’s plan and that Pres. Donald Trump was “anointed by Jesus to light the signal fire in Iran to cause Armageddon and mark his return to Earth,” according to a complaint by a non-commissioned officer.
From Saturday morning through Monday night, more than 110 similar complaints about commanders in every branch of the military had been logged by the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF).
The complaints came from more than 40 different units spread across at least 30 military installations, the MRFF told me Monday night.8
The MRFF is keeping the complainants anonymous to prevent retribution by the Defense Department. The Pentagon did not immediately respond to my request for comment.
One complainant identified themselves as a non-commissioned officer (NCO) in a unit currently outside the Iran combat zone but in Ready-Support status, deployable at any time. The NCO said they were Christian and emailed the MRFF on behalf of 15 troops, including at least 11 Christians, one Muslim, and one Jew.
The NCO wrote to the MRFF that their commander “urged us to tell our troops that this was ‘all part of God’s divine plan’ and he specifically referenced numerous citations out of the Book of Revelation referring to Armageddon and the imminent return of Jesus Christ.
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This is wholly unAmerican, anti-Constitutional, and WRONG! This is another example of the Trump administration disregarding the Constitution and establishing a national religion.
The U.S. Constitution establishes a secular government, prohibiting the establishment of an official religion and guaranteeing religious freedom for all.
While many Americans identify as Christians and the nation’s founding was influenced by Protestant traditions, the government is officially neutral on religious matters, separating church and state.
Debate exists regarding the founders' intentions; while many were Christians, others were deists, and the Constitution does not invoke God or Christianity, instead deriving authority from "We the People".
The 1797 Treaty of Tripoli explicitly stated that the U.S. government was not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
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The god of Judaism and Empire Christianity is a myth. A myth created by the insatiable need of the church (RCC) and the state (Roman Empire and Israel) to control all activities and beliefs of the people they controlled.
Both the chuch and the state, in their practice of using religion and spirituality to justify their goals is evil and certainly not Christian. Or any other religion or tradition worth following.
The American Empire and its Jewish sidekick will soon be finished. Killed by their own ignorance, hate, and greed.
If there is a god, this force will ultimately destroy the evil that has become the Jewish state and the USA.
How many Americans? Based on the panic I've read about on other sites not as many as I'd hoped.
The Military Religious Freedom Foundation has been defending American active and retired military personnel from the antics of Nationalist Christians for decades. The work that Mikey Weinstein has done, the threats he and his family have endured.... In my eyes the man is a saint, just saying.
Oh, for the record, the only physical harm threats I ever received came from trolls on the MRFF site. Nothing came of it but still, it was spicy there for a minute or two. What Mikey has had to deal with is worse.
But back on topic, I believed the Nat-C's when they told me their plan to take over the USA for their concept of deity. To that end they've been raising their kids to be Warriors for Christ, sending them to the military where they've been poisoning and destroying the wall between the state and religion ever since.
Oh, side note: weird how service critters on the USS Gerald R Ford face 45 minute lines to use the toilet. Thought the warship was the most advanced tech our military possesses? I suspect malicious compliance at play.
And the cookie continues to crumble -
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/tillis-threatens-hijack-senate-business-180429419.html?utm_source=pushly&ncid=pushly
Cyrus the Great, the great ruler of the Persian Empire (now Iran since 1935) was a ruler who respected and allowed preservation of the traditions of the other cultures (and religions) he governed.
Unlike Netanyahu and the American Fuhrer Trump. And like the Presian Empire, the American Empire will fall. Fuhrer Trump is simply accelerating its collapse.
Never a word of protest from the leftists "President Obama authorized significant military actions, including air strikes and drone attacks, in multiple foreign countries—notably Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Libya, and Syria—to combat terrorist organizations like ISIS and Al-Qaeda." " A total of 563 strikes, largely by drones, targeted Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen during Obama’s two terms Between 384 and 807 civilians were killed in those countries, according to reports logged by the Bureau."
Beachchair joe said they are fine going ahead with the nuclear program and the left is fine with that.
Was there a threat from any of these countries. Trump joined Israel in stopping a country who has said they will attack the US. Fortunately there was no red line to ignore.
Trump is showing how a white Christian Theocracy can murder more Iranians than an Iranian theocracy.
Huh. In skuds rush to paint both sides the same they miss essential context, specifically President Obama authorized U.S. military intervention in Libya on 3/19/2011, launching Operation Odyssey Dawn to protect civilians from Moammar Gadhafi's forces as a part of a UN authorized coalition aimed at stopping a humanitarian catastrophe.
Based on their words, or lack thereof, skud has proven themselves protectors of those who SA children, what is the killing of civilians to them?
So Trump invaded Iran due to the UN? No? So he went to Congress - no, I remember him telling the press that he didn't need permission. He's also the one who trashed the JCPOA in his first term because "he could do better" only he couldn't because he hasn't and instead of continuing negotiations he sends bombs. This is another fact skud gets not only wrong but wrong with the side of incorrect to the power of deliberately ignorant.
For the record skud the ONLY country saying Iran was going to attack us was Israel, and yeah, based on the fact that Israel was going forward with their attacks Iran would include the USA in their retaliation. Everyone on that side of the pond knows the identity of Israel's sugar daddy.
Nothing said by skud about the 6 service critters killed. Nothing mentioned about the 150+ girls deliberately killed in the first foray. But hey, they sure did get their digs in for the former presidents all while continuing to carry water for those who SA women and children.
Skud - if Trump didn't do the things you refuse to acknowledge why is it that Trump, a sue happy kind of guy, hasn't sued anyone calling him a protector of pedophiles? Dude has sued everyone except those who call out his past with the Epstein business. Why is that skud? I know the reason just curious to see if you do too.
Mr. Obama didn't start a full scale war in the Middle East by pre-emptively bombing a sovereign nation that did NOT threaten or attack the US.
Pentagon tells Congress no sign that Iran was going to attack US first
That you don't know the difference is appalling and indicates that your support is nothing more than tribalism.
Yes, Iran was ruled by a murderous, ruthless, horrible leader, but so is Russia. I assume you would be cheering on a pre-emptive strike against Russia as well? And North Korea? If not, why not?
You apparently have no problems when a president from your tribe breaks international laws and starts wars without so much as an explanation to the American people on the reasons for doing so.
Rubio argued that striking first was a "proactively defensive" measure based on a Department of War assessment that waiting to "absorb a blow" would result in significantly more U.S. deaths.
This smells like the WMD threat lie that was given for the Iraq war, since all we have as evidence is the word from an administration headed by a pathological liar, Trump.
The evil Empire, (America), doing the bidding of its psychopathic master Butcher Netanyahu, has been responsible for more death and destruction than any other nation state on earth. Ever.
Yet the Christian Nationalist morons supporting America's Fuhrer Trump will never see the evil in their blind cultish loyalty to a sick narcissistic madman.
"Mr. Rubio’s comments suggested to some of Trump’s core supporters that Israel’s decision had led the United States into war. Many of those same allies for years have urged the president and the broader Make America Great Again movement to shift away from their close ties to Israel and military entanglements in the Middle East.
“Rubio’s comments are a record-scratch moment,” Mike Cernovich, a pro-Trump social media commentator, wrote on social media. “He said what most guessed was the case. That he said out loud this is a sea change in foreign policy. There will be massive calls for a walk back.”
Mr. Trump and Mr. Rubio both tried to smooth over tensions on Tuesday, but they continued to offer conflicting accounts of the events that had led the United States into its most expansive military conflict since the 2003 invasion of Iraq.
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“The bottom line is this: The president determined we were not going to get hit first,” he said on Tuesday. “It’s that simple, guys.”
But in a letter to Congress, sent Monday and made public Tuesday, Mr. Trump wrote that he had ordered the military action in Iran to advance American national interests and eliminate Iran as a global threat, adding that it was carried out “in collective defense of our regional allies, including Israel.” --NYTimes reporting
Trump and his people can't coordinate their stories to explain their starting a war in the Middle East.
When did Skud ever show concern for victims of US bombing?
NEVER.
In less than a week Trump murdered more people, including school children, than Obama's bombing over 8 years.
Doesn't bother Skud in the least.
The "left" was fine with Obama's multi-national nuclear agreement with Iran. Skud's hero KILLED it. Not a peep from him about that. Iran, and now the world, learned they CANNOT trust America's word in any agreement.
Skud's OK with that as well.
"Nearly every country in the Middle East has sustained damage from missile hits or shrapnel, and now Turkey joins the wider list of nations affected after an Iranian ballistic missile heading toward Turkish airspace was intercepted."
When the Empire crumbles under Fuhrer Trump, and it will, it wil be a very goid thing for the rest of the world.
I will say this about skud, it is TRUE that both parties in reality HAVE acted as empire. Harming millions in the process. Since the end of WW II the American state, under both republican AND democratic leadership have in fact acted as self interested and selfish actors on the world stage. Its alignment with the terrorist state if Zionist Isreal has merely damaged our credibility among truly thinking nations.
Israel is a pariah state governed by an evil psychopath Netanyahu. And in the Fuhrer Trump he truly found his soul mate in death and destruction.
In his incurable incompetence and arrogant hubris, Trump assumed that he was King of the World, due to one successful raid on Venezuela. Looking for his next triumph, he boasted that America was locked and ready to support the Iranian uprising. Thousands were slaughtered believing his bunk and bluster. Because he was totally unprepared to help them, and actually has little interest in them. The carriers that were off on other goose chases and now back near the Gulf can turn Iran in rubble like Gaza, but cannot restore the dead protesters to life, or turn their spontaneous rebellion into a functioning defendable and widely accepted democratic government.
Ms. Shaw, Actually I am an isolationists and believe we shouldn't take any action against any country. What I was pointing out was the hypocrisy of the left when they scour trump for his actions but said nothing about the swell guy when he ordered the assassination of a terrorist. He sent over twenty thousand troops to Afghanistan, increased drone strikes in Pakastan, Yemen and Somalia but that was not trump so it is fine.
Skud, there is a world of difference between what President Obama did and what Trump is doing right now. I am somewhat shocked that you still don’t see or understand the difference. Right now I don’t have the time to explain it. Maybe someone else can. I’m just exhausted trying to help you understand these things.
Do you know what Brandolini‘s law is? Look it up please, thank you.
Brandolini's Law is Skud's raison d'être. He NEEDS it to keep spreading his bullshit.
All presidents, ever single one since WW II has been influenced by and guided by the MIC and the CIA. Both behemoth organizations interested in maintaining their influence.
President D.D. Eisenhower warned Americans of the threat of a growing and powerful MIC. We failed to listen.
So here we are. With an incredibly stupid President influenced by an incredibly evil Netanyahu, and an overly zealous MIC perfectly happy to keep the American taxpayer dollars streaming to their bank accounts while producing weapons of destruction to kill people and destroy infrastructure. All to keep the rulers of hegemony and Empire happy.
If I understand skud's reasoning they are fine with the trashing of Constitutional Rights for people of color, immigrants, and the poor. Who needs a stinking warrant, amirite? But of course they believe and practice rights only for themselves and those who look like them. When the fascists come for skud I will laugh so hard. Of course I'll be dead by then but still, I'll be laughing from the other side.
Shaw, I've tried to educate skud. When they refused to denounce the current admin's cover of child SA... yeah, no. I know you value their contributions and yeah, so do I because they reveal the mindset of our opponents. But when they refused to denounce those who are covering for the Trump-Epstein files they signaled their willingness to stand with those who SA kids.
It's icky but these are the times we are living in. As grey as I am some issues (kids especially) are black and white.
Hey skud, here's a clue - if you want anyone to believe you are equally harsh about both sides you might want to focus on the side you've ignored thus far, just saying. We know your opinion about Biden and Obama - in fact you won't shut up about their perceived misdeeds. What you've yet to do is call out the Trump admin for their refusal to comply with court orders (4400+ orders to release immigrants and 96+ cases where the Feds lied about evidence to the court) and their insistence that propaganda is equivalent to facts. Had either of the previous former presidents done anything like that you'd be having kittens in the comment section. Yet here you are, protecting those who SA kids.
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