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Saturday, August 15, 2009


tells US about the liars and their crazy talk about the "death panels:


Joe "Truth 101" Kelly said...

It is time to make the jokers that tell the right wing lies about death panels and doctors fleeing the country pay the price for it. The President just called these turkeys out. The heat is just starting to be turned up.

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Joe "Truth 101" Kelly said...

I thought it important to say what I said Shaw, but I don't think it needed to be repeated three times. Sensitive keys on these laptops.

Gordon Scott said...

Ah, well, the president did indeed suggest, as others have, that difficult decisions will have to be made in order to control the cost of government health programs. Palin merely used uncommonly blunt language to describe the process.

Fortunately, the American people took a look, didn't like what they saw, and the progressives in the senate have now caved on the issue.

Palin was right, and better still, her argument is winning.

TOM said...

It was a circus promoter who said, there is a sucker born every minute.

The republican circus is using that unfortunate truth, to push their lies.

It won't work for long. People get mad when they realize they have been lied to and played for suckers.

The republican party may never recover from the devious acts and lies they are trying to pull on the American people.

Arthurstone said...

Difficult choices are being made now with private insurers.

Even more difficult decisions are being made by those millions without insurance at all.

Palin's 'uncommonly blunt language' is, as usual, a big, fat lie wrapped in the thinest skin of truth.

The 'progresssives' haven't caved. Moderate, useless blue-dog Democrats have, as usual, and in the interest of 'bi-partisanship' (and getting re-elected), run for cover. Clowns like Bachus should give a little less thought to serving yet another meaningless term in office and a little more thought to actually accomplishing something worthwhile during their uneventful, mediocre careers.

Shaw Kenawe said...

Palin merely used uncommonly blunt language to describe the process.

What Palin used was a lie. A cheap, political hack of a lie meant to obfuscate and frighten the weak minded.

There was nothing in the bill that mandated that her Down Syndrome baby or granny would have to be killed or go before her idiotic "death panels."

But no smart person expects anything better from the unfinished governor who doesn't believe in quitting, except when she does it.

End of life planning is smart and humane.

You can call it "winning" all you like, but Mr. Obama will get his health care reform, and that's the ultimate win.

Anonymous said...

Who listens to Palin? Why do the conservatives worship a quitter and a know-nothing and people like Beck and Rush?

Those are their heroes. And they're proud of it?

Wow. Just wow.

Relocated Brit said...

"There are few tribes more loathsome than the American right, and their vicious use of the shortcomings in the NHS to attack Barack Obama's attempts at health reform are a useful reminder.

I was thinking of this during a visit to my 91-year-old dad who is still in an NHS hospital after three weeks, recovering from a broken hip. He has had fantastic care, including a new metal hip, blood transfusions, different antibiotics to match every aspect of his condition; all administered by nurses who remain cheerful even when asked to perform tasks on men – the lethal combination of pain and old age makes some in the ward exceedingly grumpy – that I would not want to do for £1,000 a time. If he was in an American hospital he'd be using up half his life savings to get that standard of care, and few ordinary Americans could afford the insurance that would provide it. (This is because health insurers spend a large part of their income on PR against the "socialised medicine" and on sending pro forma letters explaining why your policy doesn't cover actual illness.) All over the US there are people whose lives are being destroyed for lack of proper health care provision, and there is no sight more odious than the rich, powerful and arrogant trying to keep it that way."

Gordon Scott said...

Tsk, tsk. You vote for a guy with no record, because he reads a teleprompter well. He breaks every promise he made to you. Then he tries to shove bad legislation through before it can even be printed in final form, much less read, and strangely enough, some folks think that's a bad idea.

And you're bitter toward the right? You guys are like the girl who plots the demise of her rival, so she can have her cheating, lying dreamboat all to herself.

dmarks said...

"there is no sight more odious than the rich, powerful and arrogant trying to keep it that way."

The most odious thing is the rich, powerful, and arrogant, led by Obama, who have been trying to damage healthcare.

Thankfully, it looks like the "public option" might be dead now. The danger diminishes and receeds.

Shaw Kenawe said...

GORDON TYPED: "Tsk, tsk. You vote for a guy with no record,"

Actually we voted for a guy with a brain, a curious mind, and the ability to understand complex issues with more than a soundbite mentality.

GORDON: "because he reads a teleprompter well."

This is silly. The rest of the world knows it. It shows more of a bucketful of jealousy than it does anything approaching reality. Mr. Obama is recognized the world over as one of the best orators of our time--but wait, you think Sarah Palin is gifted, so the silliness is perfectly understood.

GORDON: "He breaks every promise he made to you."

Wrong. According to PolitiFact which is keeping track of President Obama's promises, here is his record after 7 months in office:

34 promises kept; 11 compromises; 7 broken; 12 stalled; 77 in the works; 374 no action.

You sound like the kid in the back seat of the car after 5 minutes into a two day journey crankily wailing "Are we there YET!!!!"

GORDON: "Then he tries to shove bad legislation through before it can even be printed in final form, much less read,"

Wrong again. He's trying to get people to talk about it and decide what is good and what is not good about it. It's your side that's "shoving" the yelling, screaming and idiotic "death panels" down the American people's throats.

GORDON: "And you're bitter toward the right?"

No. We don't understand a group of people who have tried now for the second time to undermine a Democratic president. [Birthers and Deathers and people who insinuate that Mr. Obama's a secret Marxist/Muslim/Commie/Socialist.]

The lefties got really angry with Bush AFTER he showed his intransigence in not reviewing his Iraq War policy by keeping the disastrous Rumsfeld as Secy. of Defense. Thousands of Americans and Iraqis died as a result of that incompetence.

Mr. Obama is simply trying to get his program through Congress and he'd hoped to get the American people to participate in the discussions--not have it hijacked by hysteria and people who scream, holler, and lie about what is in the bill.

We all know the bill is imperfect, but acting like children who need Ritlin instead of acting like thoughtful adults will get this country nowhere.

It doesn't take a genius to understand what this is all about.


That is what I believe motivates the modern Republican Party.

Arthurstone said...

Easy Gordon. Easy.

7-1/2 years to go. Don't peak too soon.

Disappointed? Broken promises?

Of course not. It took years to muck things up as badly as they are.

It will take time to turn things around.

Gordon Scott said...

Excuse me? Now he wants to have a discussion?

Remember "We must pass healthcare reform before the August recess."

President Obama didn't want to have a discussion on it then. Nor did he on Cap & Tax, or the "stimulus."

Funny how he only wants to have a discussion when the American people make it clear they don't like his policies.