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Tuesday, July 1, 2025

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO AMERICA?

Zohran Mamdan was democratically elected to be the Democratic nominee for mayor of New York City. Trump isn't happy with that, so he's going to send his personal lawyer, Pam Bondi, and the DoJ to look into denaturalization because he said so.

America, open your eyes. An American president threatens to denaturalize a duly elected citizen because he disagree with that citizen's politics.

Why are you allowing this??? Why aren't you marching the streets against Trump and his anti-American administration???



President Donald Trump called the citizenship status of Zohran Mamdani — the Democratic nominee for mayor of New York City — into question at a Tuesday afternoon press conference in South Florida, falsely implying that he could be in the country illegally. 

 “A lot of people are saying he’s here illegally,” Trump said of the 33-year-old democratic socialist. “We’re going to look at everything. And ideally, he’s going to turn out to be much less than a communist, but right now, he’s a communist.”

 


From Alternet:

"Rep. Andy Ogles (R-Tennessee) is calling for Democratic New York City mayoral nominee Zohran Mamdani, who was born in Uganda but is a naturalized U.S. citizen, to lose his citizenship — a proposal he made in a letter to U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi. 


And Ogles isn't the only far-right MAGA Republican who is pushing for the denaturalization of people they disagree with politically. The Trump Administration is not only pushing for an end to birthright citizenship, but also, for ramping up denaturalization and stripping more people of their U.S. citizenship. 

 In an op-ed published by MSNBC's website on July 1, law professors Cassandra Burke Robertson and Irina D. Manta argue that the denaturalization push from MAGA Republicans is at odds with "constitutional principles." 

The Trump Administration made denaturalization a priority during the first term, creating a special Justice Department section to pursue these cases," the legal experts explain. 

"The Administration now appears positioned to expand these efforts with a policy requiring that denaturalization be pursued wherever legally possible. As the apparent next step in the Trump Administration's mass deportation regime, this rarely used but potentially far-reaching government power is getting newfound attention." 

 Robertson and Manta add, "As legal scholars who study denaturalization, we believe the new Justice Department policy could significantly expand the circumstances under which naturalized Americans might lose their citizenship in ways that raise serious constitutional questions." 

 The attorneys point out that denaturalization "was relatively rare" during "most of American history." "It spiked during the Red Scare era when the government targeted alleged communists and Nazi sympathizers but largely disappeared after the 1960s after the Supreme Court imposed constitutional limits on the practice in Afroyim v. Rusk," Robertson and Manta note. 

"In that case, the Court held denaturalization was unconstitutional in most circumstances, leaving open only cases in which someone 'illegally procured' citizenship by not meeting requirements or obtaining it through fraud or concealment of material facts. 

In the half-century after this decision, fewer than 150 Americans were denaturalized, mostly former war criminals who had hidden their pasts." 

According to Robertson and Manta, MAGA Republicans' denaturalization push could lead to troubling violations of constitutional liberties. 

 "Civil denaturalization cases provide no right to an attorney, meaning defendants without resources often face the government without representation," the legal scholars argue write. 

"There are no jury trials, with judges making citizenship determinations alone. The burden of proof is 'clear and convincing evidence' rather than the criminal standard of 'beyond a reasonable doubt.' 

Additionally, there is no statute of limitations, allowing the government to build cases on decades-old evidence that may be incomplete or unreliable." Robertson and Manta continue, "We believe this procedural framework violates constitutional principles. 

The Supreme Court has recognized citizenship as a fundamental right, with Chief Justice Earl Warren describing it as the 'right to have rights.' Taking away such a fundamental right through procedures that would be inadequate for minor civil disputes appears to violate basic due process protections. More fundamentally, we argue that aggressive denaturalization policies conflict with constitutional principles of citizenship." 





10 comments:

skudrunner said...

Nominating him is business as usual for the dems. Guess they didn't learn a thing from the trouncing in the presidential election. I don't think the people of NYC are stupid enough to elect him but people do stupid things. The democrats nominated kamala and the republicans nominated the donald, just shows stupid does run deep. The public said we don't think we need to give everything we worked for away and if you want to enter the US do it legally. Guess the dems didn't learn.

Dave Miller said...

Shaw, can I add to the "how the hell do you still support this guy" sentiment of this post?

If the Washington Times, a conservative leaning news outlet, is to be believed, Trump, at a final press conference at the NATO summit did approved something no president in our history as been known to have done.

Here's their report... again, from the Washington Times.

President Trump said Iranian leaders cleared their plan [to retaliate] with the U.S. to fire retaliatory strikes against an American airbase in Qatar, and even requested a specific time to attack.

“They said, ’We’re going to shoot them. Is one o’clock OK?’ I said it’s fine. And everybody was emptied off the base so they couldn’t get hurt, except for the gunners,” Mr. Trump said at a press conference in the Netherlands, where he is attending a NATO summit.



Monday’s Iranian attack, the Times said, on Al Udeid Air Base, the largest U.S. military installation in the region, was repelled by missile defense batteries, and there were no casualties, the Pentagon said.

Stop and take this in. A sitting US President, admitted, on camera at a NATO press conference, that he gave permission to a foreign adversary, Iran, to attack a US military base.

Literally, I'm speechless.

Dave Miller said...

Skud... nobody nominated Mamdani, he won a primary. Big difference.

As you say often, they had to choose between this guy and a serial sexual assaulter.

Shaw Kenawe said...

Skud, do you know anything about Mamdani? Why do you claim you don't think the people of NYC are "stupid enough" to elect him? What is it about his background that makes you say that? Do you not know that many sections of NYC that went 20+ points for Trump in 2024 voted for him by 10+ points? Why do you suppose those people who voted for Trump switched and voted for Mamdani?

Are you anti-Muslim? Are you, like the sailors on the Mother Ship and Trump, one of those who thinks that all Muslims are "communists" or "radicals" or other such things? Tell us what you know about him and where you got your information.

From what I've read about him, he, unlike your president, was never indicted for crimes nor found guilty of felonies, nor sexual assault, nor cheating people out of money, so that makes him far and away a better American citizen than your president.

It's okay to not agree with his politics, but to threaten him with being arrested and denaturalized is something one would hear a dictator/fascist threaten, not a real American. IMO, Trump is the threat to our democracy, not Mamdani. The facts point to that opinion.

BB-Idaho said...

Man has bizarre hobbies. Now he wants DOGE to go through Musk's companies. Surprised he hasn't appointed a horse to the Senate.

Les Carpenter said...

Not surprized. At all. This is to be expected from the Orange Turd.

The FOTUS is a disgrace to the human race. A lying POS. A disaster on steriods. An evil and despicable lump of human excrement.

What has happened to America? Donald Trump and his MAGA con. America blindly and ignorantly reelected him even given his tract record of failures.

We got what we bought. An idiot lacking in intelligence, decency, integrity, honesty, compassion, empathy, and every and anything else that defines a decent human being.

Shaw Kenawe said...

Imagine if Barack Obama(or any other POTUS!) had done what Trump did. Just imagine.

This is AI's response to my question about a US president giving permission to an enemy to bomb a US Army base:

"The President, as Commander in Chief, is responsible for the defense of the United States and its military personnel. Allowing an enemy attack on a military base would be a direct violation of this duty.

Historically, when U.S. military bases have been attacked, such as at Pearl Harbor or in recent years in the Middle East, the attacks are viewed as serious incidents, often with significant consequences, including loss of life.
While the President has broad powers to deploy forces and engage in military operations to protect national security, this does not extend to intentionally allowing enemy attacks on U.S. military bases.


IMO, what Trump did is a screaming impeachable offense and never seen in our history.

What the hell happened to America? Where is the outrage on this indefensible act of, IMO, treason by Trump?

Shaw Kenawe said...

From Mother Jones magazine:

"Even by the standards of the Trump era, this talk of terrorism and denaturalization is despicable stuff—rank religious bigotry mixed with naked authoritarianism. It’s getting close to throwing-people-out-of-helicopters territory (which, to be clear, a Republican member of the New York City council has already shared a meme about doing). A White House official suggesting a political opponent might be stripped of their citizenship is unfathomable in a functioning democracy. Shouting that this is “authoritarian” does not quite do it justice; they are literally proposing to do to Mamdani what Idi Amin did to his father."

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"Attacking people’s citizenship and identity as punishment for their politics is a fascist move. It will destroy the country’s civic life if unchallenged. (Resist the temptation to cheer on Trump’s suggestion that he might do the same to Elon Musk; it is a poison for the soul.) "


NOTE: I couldn't find anything about what Amin did to his father.

Les Carpenter said...

I've felt for some time America has been approaching the abyss. With the reelection of the ignorant FOTUS we are now standing at the precipice with our toes over the edge.

Shaw Kenawe said...

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