“Well, I mean, obviously that’s a decision of the president,” House Speaker Mike Johnson said...
WTF?
Speaker Johnson, what's your opinion? Would it be a good decision? Can't you just say "A convicted child molester should not be pardoned under any circumstances"?
For all the hoopla about Dems being unable to say "we need to close our borders and only allow legal immigrants to come here", these clowns are pretty mealy mouthed now.
Come on -FJ, Geez, Speaker Johnson, President trump, et al... is it right to to have a convicted child molestor walking free in America?
speaker Johnson is an Evangelical Christian Nationalists who will support every evil item of the tRump agenda because in his ignorance he truly believes god and his jesus blessed it. That the malignant narcissist was indeed chosen by god.
All we need to know is that Trump and his henchmen/henchwomen will not offer Ghislaine Maxwell anything unless she is willing to protect Trump at all costs.
I know it looks like to Skud that we are picking on Trump, and only Trump. But that's because of a few things...
1. Skud seems unable to acknowledge or accept the fact that many commenters here, including Shaw have over the years been critical of Presidents Clinton, Obama and Biden. We have not, as some seem to believe, blindly accepted their positions, policies or politics.
2. We've never had a president like Trump. Never in our history, US history, has and party nominated and the country elected a known, convicted felon. Never.
3. Not since WWII have we had a president so openly critical of our closest allies in the world. Not since WWII have we had a president even question the need for NATO to counter Russian aggression.
4. Trump is a prodigious liar. I know, I know, all politicians lie. But not generally about provable facts. All one has to do is check Trump's Unabomber comments about his uncle. They are all false. These are not political lies. They are not even related to politics. They are just part of the thousands of lies Trump spews everyday.
5. Bill Clinton sexually assaulted a White House intern. Full stop. Trump has been found guilty of sexual assault. Full stop. Trump and his admin have repeatedly lied about the Epstein affair, his reasons for breaking off the relationship, whether a Epstein "client list" exists and more.
None of that is regular, everyday stuff for a POTUS. And it never was until the GOP, long seen, and promoted as the party of God, moral, law and order, elected him.
Now Skud, -FJ and others, I'm willing to be proven wrong on any of the above. But please bring the receipts, links and evidence.
David, Getting the truth in any incident is impossible because of our partisan media. If I remember correctly when clinton was caught raping an intern the media came to his defense and so did the democrat party. Monica was called a liar, tramp, and many other disgusting identifiers that were untrue. So much for honor of the democratic party and the media but I'm sure you condemned him. I hope he will not pardon maxwell but also feel there are a lot of high profile individuals that will be exposed. This is just to embarrass trump but many others will be exposed and it will solve nothing but that seems to be our political landscape, don't do anything but blame the other party. I don't believe trump will If trump does pardon her it won't be because his name will be exposed because everyone knows his involvement so what does it matter. I know you would rather support a guy who just followed orders from handlers as long as he is a nice guy and had access to an auto-pen so sign massive numbers of crushing regulations.
Please provide the documentation that Clinton raped an intern. If you're referring to Monica Lewinsky. She was an intern and they had sex. But there was no rape.
Clinton was always a horndog but there was no claim of or evidence of rape. There was a soiled spotted blue dress which confirmed the act took place
But what the horndog did on the Oval Office with Lewinsky pales in the comparison to what the diddler tRump has done skud. But yeah, I get it. Conditioning and Blind belief has you wired into the circuitry of MAGA ignorance and delusional beliefs. That's okay. When the full reality of tRump's disasters hits you'll wake up into woke. And rue your former ignorance and delusions.
Leslie, Juanita Broaddrick, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, Leslie Millwee are just a few which you could have found had you have looked at the conservative media called NYT. Your correct Monica was consensual so I guess in your mind him taking advantage of an intern is OK.
Now clinton is a spokesperson and leader for the democratic party, so much for social justice and morality. Both parties have a history of bad dealings. The republicans have trump while the dems have JFK, teddy and bill. Doesn't say much for the countries leadership.
This attitude here "but many others will be exposed and it will solve nothing but that seems to be our political landscape, don't do anything but blame the other party."
I've read it all over the interwebz, usually from humans who've never been through SA so they've no clue of what they are talking about. And overwhelmingly responded to with humor, pats on the head, offers of cookies and a binkie, and some responses so raw, so fresh their wounds are still bleeding. There is compassion in the community, but not for the apologists. For them although we stand individually on this we stand together.
It's pretty positive and lightening of the soul.
For me, exposing the list will give validation to the real victims in this case, the SA survivors, the ones who were trafficked and SA'd and had their lives taken away from them at a time they were just discovering who they were.
There is a scene in the movie The Dark Crystal where the bad guys drain the life essence of a harmless happy race of critters. The husk is then sent to perform drudgery duties because they were of 'no further use'.
That is how I see the folks on the list so I don't care who gets embarrassed because they acted inappropriately with a child.
Grey, Justice for survivors was epstein offing himself and maxwell in prison. If she is given a reduced sentence or pardon that would be a tragedy. Unfortunately we have given the POTUS a lot of power to do what they want without oversight or approval and we regret it afterwords. They should be held accountable for their actions and have to justify their actions. The problem is there is no impartial party to make the decision. How many criminals are given pardons when any president leaves office. We are a country of laws until we're not.
I have not looked at or listened to conservative news media since the malignant lying narcissist put a spell on it. IOW's I don't read or listen to FAKE news. If and when the cons wake up to and report truth I might reconsider wasting my time on conservative "media" now and again. So, skuddie ole buddy, do have a trumpy evening.
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Eastern and Maxwell.
“Well, I mean, obviously that’s a decision of the president,” House Speaker Mike Johnson said...
WTF?
Speaker Johnson, what's your opinion? Would it be a good decision? Can't you just say "A convicted child molester should not be pardoned under any circumstances"?
For all the hoopla about Dems being unable to say "we need to close our borders and only allow legal immigrants to come here", these clowns are pretty mealy mouthed now.
Come on -FJ, Geez, Speaker Johnson, President trump, et al... is it right to to have a convicted child molestor walking free in America?
A simple yes or no will suffice. If you can.
Epstein... damn auto spell correct!
speaker Johnson is an Evangelical Christian Nationalists who will support every evil item of the tRump agenda because in his ignorance he truly believes god and his jesus blessed it. That the malignant narcissist was indeed chosen by god.
All we need to know is that Trump and his henchmen/henchwomen will not offer Ghislaine Maxwell anything unless she is willing to protect Trump at all costs.
Maxwell is a pimp by trade.
And she has a long stint in prison ahead of her.
Enough said.
Now she'll pimp for freedom. And, given the evil sitting in the Oval Office if she pimps tRump's lie she'll be out on his pardon.
NYTimes: "Ghislaine Maxwell Lawyer Says She Will Only Testify for Immunity or Clemency
In a letter to Congress, the lawyer for Jeffrey Epstein’s convicted co-conspirator says clemency would allow her to talk to lawmakers."
I know it looks like to Skud that we are picking on Trump, and only Trump. But that's because of a few things...
1. Skud seems unable to acknowledge or accept the fact that many commenters here, including Shaw have over the years been critical of Presidents Clinton, Obama and Biden. We have not, as some seem to believe, blindly accepted their positions, policies or politics.
2. We've never had a president like Trump. Never in our history, US history, has and party nominated and the country elected a known, convicted felon. Never.
3. Not since WWII have we had a president so openly critical of our closest allies in the world. Not since WWII have we had a president even question the need for NATO to counter Russian aggression.
4. Trump is a prodigious liar. I know, I know, all politicians lie. But not generally about provable facts. All one has to do is check Trump's Unabomber comments about his uncle. They are all false. These are not political lies. They are not even related to politics. They are just part of the thousands of lies Trump spews everyday.
5. Bill Clinton sexually assaulted a White House intern. Full stop. Trump has been found guilty of sexual assault. Full stop. Trump and his admin have repeatedly lied about the Epstein affair, his reasons for breaking off the relationship, whether a Epstein "client list" exists and more.
None of that is regular, everyday stuff for a POTUS. And it never was until the GOP, long seen, and promoted as the party of God, moral, law and order, elected him.
Now Skud, -FJ and others, I'm willing to be proven wrong on any of the above. But please bring the receipts, links and evidence.
Otherwise, you're all just blowing smoke.
We anticipate a full pardon and appointment to the head of National Child Security.
What so sad is that anyone is compelled to make comments such as that. And a very large number of us feel the same.
David, Getting the truth in any incident is impossible because of our partisan media. If I remember correctly when clinton was caught raping an intern the media came to his defense and so did the democrat party. Monica was called a liar, tramp, and many other disgusting identifiers that were untrue. So much for honor of the democratic party and the media but I'm sure you condemned him.
I hope he will not pardon maxwell but also feel there are a lot of high profile individuals that will be exposed. This is just to embarrass trump but many others will be exposed and it will solve nothing but that seems to be our political landscape, don't do anything but blame the other party. I don't believe trump will If trump does pardon her it won't be because his name will be exposed because everyone knows his involvement so what does it matter.
I know you would rather support a guy who just followed orders from handlers as long as he is a nice guy and had access to an auto-pen so sign massive numbers of crushing regulations.
Please provide the documentation that Clinton raped an intern. If you're referring to Monica Lewinsky. She was an intern and they had sex. But there was no rape.
Clinton was always a horndog but there was no claim of or evidence of rape. There was a soiled spotted blue dress which confirmed the act took place
But what the horndog did on the Oval Office with Lewinsky pales in the comparison to what the diddler tRump has done skud. But yeah, I get it. Conditioning and Blind belief has you wired into the circuitry of MAGA ignorance and delusional beliefs. That's okay. When the full reality of tRump's disasters hits you'll wake up into woke. And rue your former ignorance and delusions.
Leslie, Juanita Broaddrick, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, Leslie Millwee are just a few which you could have found had you have looked at the conservative media called NYT. Your correct Monica was consensual so I guess in your mind him taking advantage of an intern is OK.
Now clinton is a spokesperson and leader for the democratic party, so much for social justice and morality. Both parties have a history of bad dealings. The republicans have trump while the dems have JFK, teddy and bill. Doesn't say much for the countries leadership.
This attitude here "but many others will be exposed and it will solve nothing but that seems to be our political landscape, don't do anything but blame the other party."
I've read it all over the interwebz, usually from humans who've never been through SA so they've no clue of what they are talking about. And overwhelmingly responded to with humor, pats on the head, offers of cookies and a binkie, and some responses so raw, so fresh their wounds are still bleeding. There is compassion in the community, but not for the apologists. For them although we stand individually on this we stand together.
It's pretty positive and lightening of the soul.
For me, exposing the list will give validation to the real victims in this case, the SA survivors, the ones who were trafficked and SA'd and had their lives taken away from them at a time they were just discovering who they were.
There is a scene in the movie The Dark Crystal where the bad guys drain the life essence of a harmless happy race of critters. The husk is then sent to perform drudgery duties because they were of 'no further use'.
That is how I see the folks on the list so I don't care who gets embarrassed because they acted inappropriately with a child.
Justice for the survivors. If you know, you know.
Grey, Justice for survivors was epstein offing himself and maxwell in prison. If she is given a reduced sentence or pardon that would be a tragedy. Unfortunately we have given the POTUS a lot of power to do what they want without oversight or approval and we regret it afterwords. They should be held accountable for their actions and have to justify their actions. The problem is there is no impartial party to make the decision. How many criminals are given pardons when any president leaves office.
We are a country of laws until we're not.
I have not looked at or listened to conservative news media since the malignant lying narcissist put a spell on it. IOW's I don't read or listen to FAKE news. If and when the cons wake up to and report truth I might reconsider wasting my time on conservative "media" now and again. So, skuddie ole buddy, do have a trumpy evening.
“They should be held accountable for their actions and have to justify their actions.”
I’m sure there is NO justification for sexually abusing and trafficking children.
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