This is why evil can flourish -- because of people who blame the victims of pedophile rings:
Sam Huntington (from the Mother Ship):
"And please, stop referring to these women as children. They had all the necessary equipment for that kind of work; they weren’t kidnapped and forced to do anything … they did it to improve their financial situation, and darn near every one of them did exactly that."
Geeez:
I’m sorry but I’ve never referred to the girls as ‘children’…they weren’t children. I hesitated to admit here that I BELIEVE they walked into the Ghislaine thing with their eyes wide open and their pocketbooks ready to be filled. That it might have gone beyond a little prostitution they didn’t mind participating in is probably true, and why the ‘victims’ are fighting for truth, but NEVER let ANYONE think those girls were little angels who suddenly would allow themselves to be flown off to an island with a bunch of men.!!!
These are loyal MAGA/Trumpers (and good Christians), blaming the child victims of Epstein's pedophile business. I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't read these MAGAs'/Trumpers' own words with my own eyes. But there it is!
Some of the victims of Epstein's pedophile ring were as young as 11, 13, & 14 years old. To MAGAs/Trumpers like Huntington & Geeez, that's not a child, they're "women!" Yes, you read that correctly. They believe 11, 13, & 14 year old girls are "women."
Reading their stomach-turning attacks on the victims of pedophilia, one can understand how monsters who run pedophilia rings get away with their terrible crimes. People like Huntington & Geeez blame underage girls who were manipulated by Epstein and Maxwell and lured into making money -- lots of it -- for Epstein and Maxwell. Many of these children came from broken homes and were psychologically vulnerable to what the very rich and powerful Epstein and Maxwell promised them. Those are facts.
Huntington and Geeez didn't bother to educate themselves about the enormous evil that Epstein and Maxwell perpetrated against these girls. Instead, they seem to defend the rich and powerful pedophiles and blame the girls!
Maybe the fact that Trump had a 15-year close friendship with Epstein and Maxwell and is in the Epstein files has something to do with their condemnation of the victims. I don't know. How to explain their nauseating blame-the-victim excuses?
Trump and Melania partied with Epstein and Maxwell for years, and they damn well knew what was going on in Epstein's mansions in Palm Beach, Manhattan, and on his island.
TRUMP KNEW.
TRUMP IS IN THE EPSTEIN FILES.
FACTS:
Other Accusers: In recent news conferences, other victims have also stepped forward to describe being abused as young as 13 and 14.
Federal Indictment: In the 2019 federal indictment against Epstein, prosecutors stated that some victims were as young as 14.
U.S. Virgin Islands: A 2020 lawsuit from the U.S. Virgin Islands alleged that Epstein trafficked girls as young as 11.
Ghislaine Maxwell's conviction:
In 2021, Epstein's associate Ghislaine Maxwell was convicted of sex trafficking for helping to procure girls for Epstein, including 14-year-olds."
"Reports from federal prosecutors and lawsuits from survivors confirm that Jeffrey Epstein's victims included girls as young as 13 and 14 years old.
Evidence from various sources confirms this:
Department of Justice: An indictment filed by the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York stated that Epstein's victims "were as young as 14 years of age" when he abused them.
"During a press conference in September 2025, one survivor stated, 'I was only 14 years old when I met Jeffrey,' adding that the abuse led her to drop out of school.
In court proceedings, another alleged victim testified that she was 13 when she first went to Epstein's house.
Common themes in their accounts include:
Targeting vulnerable girls.
Survivors often describe being targeted when they were in a vulnerable situation, such as experiencing financial hardship, a difficult home life, or aspiring to a career in modeling or acting.
The perpetrators, often Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, would exploit these weaknesses to gain trust.
Grooming and normalization of abuse. The abuse was typically part of a calculated grooming process.
Maxwell and Epstein made the girls feel special with gifts, shopping trips, and promises to help their careers. By building a sense of dependency and trust, the perpetrators made the abusive sexual contact seem normal.
Extreme isolation and control.
Victims describe feeling isolated and terrified, unable to talk to anyone for fear of judgment or retaliation. Some recall feeling powerless while Epstein surrounded himself with photographs of powerful people, using his wealth and connections to intimidate them.
Financial coercion. Many girls were offered money for "massages" under the pretense of a legitimate job. Some were in extreme poverty and accepted the money out of desperation. This financial dependency made them feel trapped and complicit in the abuse."
ELEVEN, THIRTEEN AND FOURTEEN YEAR OLD GIRLS ARE NOT "WOMEN!"
16 comments:
Trump is openly threatening any Republican member of the House who votes for the files to be released. Whatever is in those files must be very damaging to Trump.
Shaw... and as if on cue, from the Poop Deck on the Mothership we're asked this...
"WOW., Is the one all this [the Epstein files] is geared at TRUMP?"
It's beyond her comprehension that maybe, just maybe people want to see the proof? Can she not imagine why the Trump Campaign was calling for the release of these files because they believed they would be full of dirt on the Dems? And even as they were being confirmed, Biondi and Patel both promised to release the files.
Today Trump called it all a "Democrat hoax"!
It is not. It is his party, the wacko conspiracy ppl, including Bongino, Biondi, Patel, DJ Trump Jr and Eric Trump who have been calling for this for months. Now even MTG is calling for the release.
These are all GOP leaders.
Their problem is that they've created a monster and Trump knows it is going to consume him.
Nazis, racists, autocrats, authoritarians,, and every tyrant and evil bully will blame the victims.
There is a word for them. EVIL. I include -FJ.
Must be fundamentalist bible thumping Evangelicals. After all, doesn't the bible say women are subservient to men? Yeah, that must be it. Honoring the literary genius of a dusty old ancient collection of myths.
Jim Wright:
“Watching the Epstein survivors, those women with the courage to stand and face down their abusers despite the threats and the petty attempts by Trump to drown them out, their stories wrecked even vile enablers in the Republican party -- or at least enough for some fake tears and a show of conveniently ineffectual morality from the likes of Mace, Green, etc.
BUT, the hard evidence has been in TRUMP's custody for 9 months and is thus no longer usable. Those Epstein files you keep yammering about are just so much confetti now, legally worthless no matter what they say. Which is why, legally speaking, cops and the court don't usually give all the evidence to the suspects for safekeeping.
And these women? The ones who were trafficked by Jeffery Epstein and preyed on by men like Trump? America has a long history of vilifying the victims to their destruction and excusing rich and powerful white men to their benefit.
Quod erat Demonstrandum.
I'm saying: Don't get your hopes up.”
I love to watch people wallow in the trauma culture victimologies....
May the cordyceps grow with you!
What you posted has NOTHING to do with the subject of this post.
I didn't think there'd be any opposition to bringing to justice the men who raped little girls, no matter who or how powerful they are/were.
But the sailors on the Mother Ship would seem to disagree, and they even blame the 11, 13 and 14 year old victims! These are the sort of degradations in our culture that I never thought I'd live tosee, but here we are! The Era of Trump! When loyalty to Trump means defending pedophiles!
So that's why you love tRump, eh -FJ?
Yes Shaw... you would think!
But if it makes life difficult for "their' president, it must be excused, laughed off, or tsk, tsked away with snark, videos or psuedo intellectualism.
I didn't, and don't expect really much of anything from that crowd.
The normal reaction to the Epstein files is to say: Release them!
Trump promised he would do just that.
If that means naming names of famous rich powerful men from either political spectrum, so be it.
I do not have any allegiance to anyone who trafficked, abused, or sexually assaulted children. Eleven, thirteen, and fourteen year old girls are children, not "women," as the Captain of the Mother Ship and her sailors would have you believe.
Well Shaw... they call 11, 13 and 14 year old girls women. But let's remember, this is the crowd of...
Jan 6 was a tourist visit, Trump did not stand by for 3 hours while DC Police were brutally beat and the perpetrators of that tourist visit are freedom fighters.
That cannot accept that US produced vaccines are safe, effective and save lives.
That Trump lies.
And on and on it goes.
Gonna assume Sam Huntington has no daughters. Maybe no close friends?
Huntington obviously read nothing about the Epstein pedophile scandals. Otherwise he wouldn't have written what he did. Maybe.
Unhappily, there are people in this world who would blame even 13 year old girls for their sexual abuse, implying they "knew what they were doing" and "they liked the money."
It' is astounding to me that anyone could blame an underage girl for what a grown man did to her.
I am especially enraged by those who blame victims who were sexually abused for the abuse. I was seven when a grown man sexually abused me.
I admit these sort of things "trigger" me because in my life every woman I've known either knew of a female who was sexually abused or was sexually abused herself.
No man who's done that to a girl should get away with it. But it appears that Trump and his administration will protect the pedophiles. Trump has already given Maxwell, who is a convicted child sex trafficker and sexual abuser, comfort for her horrendous crimes.
Shaw... and some women even "approve" under the doctrine of "boys will be boys". Like a few sailorettes we know.
...and you Bill Clinton.
If Bill Clinton raped young girls, then he should face justice for doing so. You see, -FJ, unlike the Trump worshippers on the Mother Ship, I and others here aren't cultists, and certainly not Bill Clinton worshippers.
When Trump was campaigning in 2024, he said he'd release the Epstein files. And now he's calling the Epstein files a Democratic hoax! Explain that.
Trump's DoJ gave Maxwell, a convicted child sex trafficker and rapist, a cushy new Club Fed facility to serve out her sentence -- if he doesn't pardon her, as rumors say he will.
Imagine that. Trump mitigated a sentence for a convicted child rapist, and you come here and name Bill Clinton, as though that changes Trump's complicity in this whole sordid and shameful Epstein scandal.
Trump and Epstein were very, very close friends. Trump had to know what was going on in Epstein's mansions and private island. And if Trump did know and said nothing about the crimes Epstein & Maxwell were committing against those young girls, Trump should be brought to justice along with any other rich powerful man, including Clinton.
Trump's been a sleazebag his entire personal and business life.
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