Qualms From Quantico?
by Bill Kristol
“There was little that was surprising in yesterday’s speeches at Quantico from President Donald Trump and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth. We already knew that Trump is a demagogue whose clownish solipsism shouldn’t mask the danger of his authoritarianism. We already knew that Hegseth is a Fox & Friends personality whose pathetic desperation to want to appear tough shouldn’t overshadow the damage he can do to our military.
Their speeches were predictably depressing and dangerous. My fellow Bulwarkians and I discussed them here and here. And JVL analyzed some of the implications of Trump’s speech here.
So I won’t dwell today on how alarmed we should be by Trump’s wish to deploy the military to fight a “war” against the enemy “within.” And I won’t dwell on how repulsed we should be by Hegseth’s apparent yearning for armed forces that resemble the Soviet military more than the American.
Instead, I want to mention a couple of aspects of yesterday’s news from which we can take some hope.
First, the general and flag officers at Quantico rose to the occasion. They listened in dignified and even stone-faced silence to Hegseth and Trump. Retired Army general Mark Hertling wrote ahead of the gathering that he hoped “the loudest message” the senior officers send “is no message at all—only that they have the quiet, disciplined silence of professionals who know their oath is to the Constitution, not to a man.”
That was the message they sent. It was impossible not to see it. And it was impressive.
I was also impressed by the many younger veterans who stepped up afterwards on social media to express disapproval of what Trump and Hegseth had to say. I was particularly struck by this post from a leader of the group Veterans for Responsible Leadership, reacting to Hegseth’s boast that “America’s warriors . . . kill people and break things for a living.”
This is a disgraceful message. There was a soldier that I served with in the army that later was killed in Mosul, Iraq that said the reason he joined the military was because he believed that it was the greatest force for good that the world has ever known. He said the military not only taught its soldiers to be lethal, but it also taught us to be compassionate and empathetic and care about not only the American people but also freedom-loving and -seeking people from all over the globe. This is the true warrior ethos that so many of us veterans know and love. I’m thinking about him a lot tonight and will be damned if sons of bitches like Trump and Hegseth will transform our great military into something resembling the Russians’. His memory and service must not be in vain.
Obviously, there are post-9/11 veterans who have been sympathetic to Trump and Hegseth. But I’m confident that many understand, especially after yesterday, that Trump’s vision of America—and Hegseth’s of the military—is not what they and their comrades-in-arms signed up and sacrificed for.
Yesterday also saw a notable contribution to our public discourse from a veteran of a different generation, a man who served a tour in the Army over six decades ago and then continued his public service with a distinguished career as a U.S. federal district court judge. William G. Young, a Ronald Reagan appointee to the federal bench in Massachusetts now a senior judge, wrote a long and careful opinion in American Association of University Professors et al. v. Marco Rubio, finding that in one of the early ICE arrests this year the Trump administration had trampled on the free speech rights of an immigrant.
But Young chose to go beyond his important legal analysis of free speech jurisprudence to discuss the larger meaning of “our magnificent Constitution.” And so he addressed the practice of ICE agents’ wearing masks:
Can you imagine a masked Marine? It is a matter of honor—and honor still matters. To us, masks are associated with cowardly desperados and the despised Ku Klux Klan. In all our history we have never tolerated an armed masked secret police. Carrying on in this fashion, ICE brings indelible obloquy to this administration and everyone who works in it.
This remark was especially striking in the context of the speeches by Trump and Hegseth. For what they want, in a way, is to turn the U.S. military into an institution more like ICE: an internal police force, unconstrained by many laws or norms, bullying and intimidating people here at home on behalf of the current administration in Washington.
I have considerable confidence that the current crop of general and flag officers do not want a kind of a military that looks like or behaves like ICE, and that they would resist it. But what of the military leadership three years from now? The Washington Post recently described efforts by Hegseth to shape the next generation of senior officers. “Even at the one- and two-star level, the secretary’s team is scrutinizing old relationships and what officials have said or posted on social media, as they determine whom to send forward for a higher rank or assignment,” the paper reported.
What will the officer corps look like in three years? Can we be confident that Trump and Hegseth won’t succeed in turning the U.S. military into something more like ICE? The thought seems incredible. But that ICE would be doing what it is now doing on our streets would have been shocking just a year ago.
The opinion of Judge Young and the silence of the generals at Quantico offer some grounds for hope. But military officers and district court judges alone won’t save us. And it’s perhaps worth noting that neither the judge nor the senior officers were elected to their offices. At the end of the day, free government can’t be preserved without the commitment and courage of elected officials. So the question is: Can more of our elected officials rise to the occasion? Which means, can more of the American people rise to the occasion? That’s the question with which Judge Young concludes his opinion:
I fear President Trump believes the American people are so divided that today they will not stand up, fight for, and defend our most precious constitutional values so long as they are lulled into thinking their own personal interests are not affected. Is he correct?
Is he correct?”
10 comments:
A few thoughts...
1. Will people even read Kristol's words before responding?
2. A few years ago our conservative friends here probably adored the views of Kristol. Apart from his views towards Trump, I doubt his overall belief in how government should govern have changed much, but now he's seen as a RINO.
3. I think he's mostly correct and I liked his take on masks.
Now, there's something else.
In WWII, we just bombed, killed, took numbers and, with our Allies, saved the world. Then we moderated our approach to war, for better or worse.
Literally these days, before engaging, many soldiers must get legal approval to act, in a war torn theater. We saw how this worked out in Vietnam. War became politicized.
There has to be some balance between the folks who think war can be precision managed and others who desire a kill 'em all and sort it out later approach.
What it is, I do not know. But it is what we must seek.
What a waste of time and resources for something that could have been accomplished with zoom and the results would have been the same. Telling a group of generals they don't know what they are doing never was going to go well no matter who the speaker is.
Dave, everything has been politicized which is the biggest problem we have.
Wars are, and always have been political. They are started to advance someone's or a nation's power and control over others. Those defending themselves or a nation never start the violence and destruction.
War is ignorance hopped up on adrenaline, a natural steriod if you will. Aggressive and cowardly leaders like tRump and hegseth always resort to bluster and threats, believing making folk fearful of them will enhance their power. When in reality it reduces their power and ultimately whatever respect they might have enjoyed, however little it may be or have been.
War and the projection of military might by the powers of the world is really a projection of abject ignorance and deep delusions. And Netanyahu's Zionist Israel and Putin's Russia are glaring examples of ignorance and delusion emblazoned in neon lights.
And Amerika's fascist regime is fully supporting genocide in Gaza, and who knows what tRump the moron will do next in Ukraine. He's an inconsistent unhinged maniac making the planet a more unstable and dangerous place.
Skud... a question, which i know you will not answer, but it makes me feel good to ask it...
When did this level of politicization really take off? The second Bush presidency? Obama? Biden? Trump? Clinton? Where would you place this current animosity and refusal to work across the aisle?
Bill Kristol - Head of NeoCons for World Conquest. Biggest proponent of the Iraq Invasion. Ukraine's Ultimate cheerleader. No wonder the "peaceful protest" Left loves him...
Shaw, Skud, Les et al...
Have we ever had a president in the modern age who actually went after his political enemies, telling US AGs to go after enemies and then enabling them? Sure, Nixon ordered it, but it was rebuffed. Who has actually made this happen?
Before Trump?
I'll save us all time... no one. In spite of protestations from the -FJ chorus, it has never happened since at least WWII. I mean, if you believe historians and people who study this kind of stuff.
But then that's the problem isn't it? All sorts of folks will "do their own research" and come up with all the times Clinton, Obama and Biden did so. But they will have no evidence.
With Trump, we have the receipts, because he admits it.
Is this the type of presidency we want?
Joe Conservative, you apparently have never met people who can be wrong about some issues and right about others. That’s a shame, because I did not agree with the Neocons’ cheerleading the Iraq war, but Kristol is certainly spot on in his assessment on the Trump- Hegseth Quantico fiasco. And it is not only his opinion, but the opinion of military experts.
Trump- Hegseth made colossal fools of themselves in a useless gathering of 800 members of America’s top brass.
Trumps’s 1 hour+ glossolalia showed that he’s mentally declining at an alarming speed, and Hegseth’s TED- like talk showed him to be absurdly lacking knowledge in how modern military engagement has changed.
David, I always answer your questions so if you wanted to embarrass me or just stake a dig you failed.
Politicization began at the beginning of time. Politicians have always been interested in themselves and their wealth and of course the power to control others. You cite Bush and Clinton who actually tried to work with both sides but they are few. Bush could have accomplished a lot but he was hamstrung by his choice of VP. Clinton did accomplish some things for the US because he wanted to be liked.
David, It is the type of president we have for the next three years. If you are so incensed by his actions you should get involved with the DNC to make sure they choose a competent candidate who can win. Their last choices have been a guaranteed loss and a senile guy because no one else could win.
"Clinton did accomplish some things for the US because he wanted to be liked."
Clinton, a flawed and rather tragic POTUS, accomplished "things" because he was smart, knew policy, and worked with the Republicans to get things done. Not because "he wanted to be liked." That's absurd. I respected Clinton's intelligence, but not his weaknesses around women. He knew policy.
The current POTUS has NEVER spoken around policy. All he does is list his grievances, brag about his brilliance, call Democrats "evil" and "vermin," and whine about not getting a Nobel Peace Prize. Trump is not intelligent. He's wiley, like a fox, but dumb as a sack of rocks.
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