the photo explains why so many cons hate them...they can't come close to their elegance and intelligence...and that burns their asses...we're lucky to have a couple like them representing this country...classy...
Anon: That is kind of a weak argument. There are plenty of elegant and intelligent conservatives AND liberals. And boorish/slobby dumb ones on both sides.
And for Anon also: This link at the Washingtonian does a good job of showing these types of characteristics across the board. Your point was invalid, and based in partisanship instead of thinking. George Cucumber, now he made a good point. And Shaw, in the parent post, made her point without partisan falsehoods.
One of the statements by Mrs. Obama that the extremists on the right say is proof that she hates America is this:
"For the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback."
Then in Madison, she said, "For the first time in my adult lifetime, I’m really proud of my country, and not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change."
The haters on the right have glommed onto that statement as proof of something or other--mostly proof that they, the haters, can justify their vilification of America's first African-American First Lady.
No white American can possibly know what it is like to grow up as an African-American in this country, or even what it is like to be an African-American female in this country.
Her statement probably has some personal history behind it, and that the neaderthals who use that statement to hate Mrs. Obama is just more evidence of the truth behind what she said.
You're correct, Dave. No FLOTUS in modern times has suffered the disrespect, mockery, and downright viciousness that Michelle Obama has. Unwarranted, all of it.
She is a wonderful FLOTUS, an elegant woman; intelligent, caring and vivacious.
There IS a reason behind all this out-of-proportion disrespect by many--not all--on the right, expecially on those toxic blogs.
It's not difficult to figure out what that reason is.
Shaw, from the first I thought her statments were ill advised, certainly not politically wise, and for the very reasons you outlined.
No one but Michelle herself and Barack knows for certain exactly what she meant by those remarks. However, EVERYONE should have given her the benefit of the doubt and withheld judgement until the nation got to know her. After five years there is ABOLUTELY no reason to believe there was, or is anything nefarious in those remarks.
Agreed, Michelle Obama is gorgeous and smart. The people on those con blogs who trash her are unhappy nasty bottom feeders. That's all. And Mrs. Obama will be our First Lady for another 3 years and they can't change it.
Dave said: "Dmarks... the fact is that there has never been the type of criticism f a first lady before Michelle Obama"
Oh, I agree. You make good points to. Better than Anon with his "liberals smart/elegant, conservatives not" argument. Much better argument. You are cut from a different cloth...
"Certainly Nancy Reagan came under fire, but not at this level. Why is that?"
Probably the level of coarseness of political dialogue has gotten far worse.
That is likely "the reason" two have alluded to so far. Sarah Palin is viciously savaged in a similar fashion. She's not a First Lady, true. But the extent to which someone might think saying nasty stuff about one and not the other (Michelle and Palin) is OK shows more about the person's partisan bias than anything else.
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Shaw said: "No white American can possibly know..."
I am not sure where you are coming from with that, because in both statements Michelle Obama didn't even mention race.
Why is it that race enters the equation. Just for clarification Michele is not african, she is a black women from chicago How would you know what it is like being a minority in america
"Why is it that race enters the equation. Just for clarification Michele is not african, she is a black women from chicago"
Her heritage is AFRICAN-American. Her ancestors were African slaves.
Anon: "How would you know what it is like being a minority in america"
Seriously? You actually wrote that after I wrote this:
"No white American can possibly know what it is like to grow up as an African-American in this country, or even what it is like to be an African-American female in this country."
You apparently are the same "Anonymous" who came here on another thread and completely did not understand what was written there as well.
Your reading comprehension skills need a tad bit improvement.
You must have studied under Zeke and never answer a question. Michele is an American, John Kerry's wife is an American American. Do you refer to yourself as German American?
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Yeah, Michelle. Barack, not so much.
Just my opinion of course.
the photo explains why so many cons hate them...they can't come close to their elegance and intelligence...and that burns their asses...we're lucky to have a couple like them representing this country...classy...
Conservative stalwarts like Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher did not embrace freedom. They did NOT support Nelson Mandela.
The Obamas will attend the funeral of someone who fought oppression and fought for liberty against tyranny.
Thatcher did not support Mandela and neither did Reagan. They were against South African's own George Washington.
Anon: That is kind of a weak argument. There are plenty of elegant and intelligent conservatives AND liberals. And boorish/slobby dumb ones on both sides.
And for Anon also: This link at the Washingtonian does a good job of showing these types of characteristics across the board. Your point was invalid, and based in partisanship instead of thinking. George Cucumber, now he made a good point. And Shaw, in the parent post, made her point without partisan falsehoods.
Dmarks... the fact is that there has never been the type of criticism f a first lady before Michelle Obama.
You are going to be nard pressed to find such consistent, ongoing vilification of any previous FLOTUS.
Certainly Nancy Reagan came under fire, but not at this level.
Why is that?
One of the statements by Mrs. Obama that the extremists on the right say is proof that she hates America is this:
"For the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback."
Then in Madison, she said, "For the first time in my adult lifetime, I’m really proud of my country, and not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change."
The haters on the right have glommed onto that statement as proof of something or other--mostly proof that they, the haters, can justify their vilification of America's first African-American First Lady.
No white American can possibly know what it is like to grow up as an African-American in this country, or even what it is like to be an African-American female in this country.
Her statement probably has some personal history behind it, and that the neaderthals who use that statement to hate Mrs. Obama is just more evidence of the truth behind what she said.
You're correct, Dave. No FLOTUS in modern times has suffered the disrespect, mockery, and downright viciousness that Michelle Obama has. Unwarranted, all of it.
She is a wonderful FLOTUS, an elegant woman; intelligent, caring and vivacious.
There IS a reason behind all this out-of-proportion disrespect by many--not all--on the right, expecially on those toxic blogs.
It's not difficult to figure out what that reason is.
Shaw, from the first I thought her statments were ill advised, certainly not politically wise, and for the very reasons you outlined.
No one but Michelle herself and Barack knows for certain exactly what she meant by those remarks. However, EVERYONE should have given her the benefit of the doubt and withheld judgement until the nation got to know her. After five years there is ABOLUTELY no reason to believe there was, or is anything nefarious in those remarks.
Agreed, Michelle Obama is gorgeous and smart. The people on those con blogs who trash her are unhappy nasty bottom feeders. That's all. And Mrs. Obama will be our First Lady for another 3 years and they can't change it.
Dave said: "Dmarks... the fact is that there has never been the type of criticism f a first lady before Michelle Obama"
Oh, I agree. You make good points to. Better than Anon with his "liberals smart/elegant, conservatives not" argument. Much better argument. You are cut from a different cloth...
"Certainly Nancy Reagan came under fire, but not at this level. Why is that?"
Probably the level of coarseness of political dialogue has gotten far worse.
That is likely "the reason" two have alluded to so far. Sarah Palin is viciously savaged in a similar fashion. She's not a First Lady, true. But the extent to which someone might think saying nasty stuff about one and not the other (Michelle and Palin) is OK shows more about the person's partisan bias than anything else.
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Shaw said: "No white American can possibly know..."
I am not sure where you are coming from with that, because in both statements Michelle Obama didn't even mention race.
Shaw
Why is it that race enters the equation.
Just for clarification
Michele is not african, she is a black women from chicago
How would you know what it is like being a minority in america
Anon:
"Why is it that race enters the equation.
Just for clarification
Michele is not african, she is a black women from chicago"
Her heritage is AFRICAN-American. Her ancestors were African slaves.
Anon: "How would you know what it is like being a minority in america"
Seriously? You actually wrote that after I wrote this:
"No white American can possibly know what it is like to grow up as an African-American in this country, or even what it is like to be an African-American female in this country."
You apparently are the same "Anonymous" who came here on another thread and completely did not understand what was written there as well.
Your reading comprehension skills need a tad bit improvement.
You must have studied under Zeke and never answer a question.
Michele is an American, John Kerry's wife is an American American. Do you refer to yourself as German American?
Nein!
keiner meiner Verwandten ist deutsch.
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