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Sunday, August 13, 2017


From around the internet, reactions to what happened in Charlotteville, Virginia, and Trump's weak and and massively unpresidential response:

"...the President of the United States, after one person has been confirmed dead after a car deliberately drove into a group of anti-racist counter-protestors, has just condemned these violent acts “on many sides.” the President of the United States, after one person has been confirmed dead after a car deliberately drove into a group of anti-racist counter-protestors, has just condemned these violent acts “on many sides.” 

 This is literally the same as saying that he condemns the violent actions of Nazis, as well as the groups protesting the Nazis. 

 All I’m saying is that if violent acts are happening in your name and endorsed by David Duke and perpetrated by people waving signs with your name on it and wearing hats with your catchphrase on it, after you have asked Jeff Sessions and the department of Justice to stop investigating white supremacist terror groups exactly like this one, and all you can say is “I condemn this on many sides” rather than “stop doing this in my name” or “white supremacy is not tolerated in this country” or without using the phrase “domestic terrorism,” you’ll have to forgive me for drawing the logical conclusion that the President of the United States, in choosing his words carefully so as not to offend a racist, torch-wielding mob, gives more fucks about the feelings of actual Nazis than anyone or anything else. 

If you’re willing to speak “off the cuff” about North Korean missile strikes or classified intel or fallen soldiers or disabled reporters or Gold Star families but recognize that your words have impact when you’re worried about offending ACTUAL NAZIS, may you and every single person who ever defended you feel a shame that burns hotter than any collection of tiki torches.

Only 8 months into the Trump Presidency we are on the brink of nuclear war and Nazis are in streets of an American city. Seems about right. 

*50 yrs ago:
“Nazis are bad.” 

*10 yrs ago* 
“Nazis are bad.” 

“Actually the 1st amendment…” 

Trump, if he’d been President when Nazi Germany invaded Poland: “We condemn this egregious hatred and violence on many sides. On many sides” 

The ‘alt-right’ term was an attempt to rebrand the far-right. 

But if it looks like a Nazi and speaks like a Nazi, a Nazi is what it is. 

More than 400,000 Americans lost their lives to defeat this in World War II. 

Now they march in Virginia. And the POTUS blames the patriots who counter the filthy Nazis with "many sides."

What a disgusting, weak, little coward Trump is. He's too afraid to condemn the Nazi scum, because THEY ARE HIS BASE!

Think about that hard and long:  Trump's base is the alt-right, they're even part of his administration, and the alt-right are NAZIS. We saw that in Charlotteville yesterday in all its ugly and dirty reality. A part of our population supports what thousands and thousands of Americans gave their lives fighting: NAZISM.


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possumlady said...

This from conservative opinion writer Michael Gerson:

Rational Nation USA said...

What these 30%'ers fear is the loss of POWER and the supremacy power insures. Diversity and oneness among all people is perceived by them as their greatest threat and therefore their greatest enemy.

Xenophobia and racism continues to be fed and nurtured by ignorant people.

Shaw Kenawe said...

Ted Cruz "urge[d] the Department of Justice to immediately investigate and prosecute today's grotesque act of domestic terrorism," and Marco Rubio tweeted that it was critical for "@potus [to] describe events in #Charlottesville for what they are, a terror attack by #whitesupremacists." Little Marco may not be a sociologist, man, but he knows domestic terrorism when he sees it. And even Lyin' Ted can get something honestly right now and then.

As for others rightly appalled as much by Trump as by yesterday's violence, the president's flat, perfunctory delivery was especially salient. "Trump and his people did not believe the moment worthy of rhetorical craft, worthy of serious thought," wrote Bush II speechwriter Michael Gerson. "The president is confident that his lazy musings are equal to history. They are not. They are babble in the face of tragedy."

The zenith of Trumpian babble yesterday? The hapless vulgarian said his administration wants to "to study [the Charlottesville 'situation']" — which was the characteristic Trumpian ploy of evading any conspicuous responsibility. Added this dreadful horror of the smallest of men: "and we want to see what we're doing wrong as a country."

That, it nearly goes without saying, is too easy; it requires no study. What we're doing wrong we did last November. But, Mr. Trump, we do appreciate your helping to remind us yesterday just how colossally wrong we were.
--PM Carpenter

Dave Miller said...

Shaw... if it's true that even Cruz is feeling uncomfortable, that's good news indeed.

Sadly though, the base, as expressed at WYD and the Mothership remain strong, even attaching the victims. I find it odd that someone who has lived in Post Nazi Germany would not immediately condemn Neo Nazis here.

But such is loyalty.

I came across this today urging a response from the 81% of Christians who supported Trump. I'm not hopeful we will see much though...

Shaw Kenawe said...

The excruciating stupidity of the rabid right:


The monuments in the south to the Civil War are monuments to men who committed treason against the United States. Robert E. Lee was asked by Lincoln to head the Union Army, he refused and took command of the rebels -- the losing side, the CSA.

The 19 highjackers who caused 9/11 were all foreigners, not Americans, they were terrorists.

Robt. E. Lee made his choice, and he chose rebellion against the United States of America, and he lost.

15 of the 9/11 highjackers were Saudi Arabians. Trump just visited the Saudis and made nicey-nice with them -- the country where a majority of the terrorist who produced 9/11 came from.

So, comparing Civil War monuments to American mosques is not just ignorant, it's imbecilically ignorant. No wonder the rabid righties love Trump. They're as demented as he is.

Anonymous said...

What with a lunatic in the White House and white supremacists marching in the streets it makes you very proud to be an American right now.

Anti-Trump is Anti-Nazi said...

The treasonous Confederate statues are coming down. Howard Zinn has won the day!

Hooray! Thank you Lord God Jesus! Justice finally prevails!

Flying Junior said...

Good Grief Dave!

Please tell me that you are not ready to concede that 80%+ of evangelicals voted for Trump. Or support him? That number is based on exit polls of white church-goers.

No way in hell. Try 50% at best.

Don't forget the Methodists, Presbyterians, American Baptists and non-white Catholics.

Dave Miller said...

FJ... I should have said "white evangelicals."

I would add, the mainline denoms you cite are not really considered writ large evangelical anymore. They've been moved to the mainline category.

This is the world I move in, believe me, the support for DJT is very strong and any hint of speaking from the pulpit as the article I cited suggests will not be happening in churches where his support is strong.

Shaw Kenawe said...

So Trump continues to be supported by a large number of Evangelical Christians?

It's difficult to contemplate any Christian of any denomination still willing to support a man who did not unequivocally and without hesitation denounce the alt-right Nazis who marched in Charlotteville. There is no "many sides" where Nazis are concerned. They are evil and evil is to be denounced. Period.

That Trump wouldn't do that simple human gesture and that there are still many Christians supporting him is shocking. At least we now know that those supposed "Christians" are more loyal to Trump and his alt-right Nazis than to Christ.

Dave Miller said...

Shaw... a clearer indictment of the church and her believers, I have not seen.

This is simply a disaster.

Most people have no idea how this is going to harm an already potentially fatally wounded church. My only hope is that evangelicals come out of the Trump era chastened, willing and open to work in different ways to share Christianity.

Each day here in Mexico brings a new round of me having to explain that no, I am not a Trump supporter even though I hit all all the demographic markers. White, over 50, evangelical.

It's a mess.