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Tuesday, June 11, 2019

Trump's method for winning: Lie and Cheat!


Talk about sticking one's head up a dark, dank place -- the so-called POTUS is a champion at it (and his cultists have no problem with it.):


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12 comments:

Rational Nation USA said...

Lets hope the polling data is more accurate than in 2016. Polls are fun but the only data that matters is election results.

Trump lives by the belief that if he repeats a lie often enough with a straight face that soon, after 27 repetitions, folks will begin to believe his lies. Trump is essentially inculcating the public with an armada of partial truths and outright lies.

2016 election results proved him right. In his narcissistic mind anyway.

Shaw Kenawe said...

"Lets hope the polling data is more accurate than in 2016."

RN, let's not forget that the Russian trolls and other interference skewed the polls and that Trump won three states, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. And even now a secret investigation is ongoing in some district in Pennslyvania where hacked voting machines were discovered. Was it luck that got Trump to win electorally by 77,744 votes over those 3 states? Or something else?


Mueller report: Russia hacked state databases and voting machine companies
Russian intelligence officers injected malicious SQL code and then ran commands to extract information

Dave Miller said...

Evidence be damned. I believe what I believe and what I believe, because I believe it, is true. Anything else is fake.

That seems to about sum it up.

That and you're not allowed to say, or show anything that differs from how I understand stuff.

Jerry said...

We hear constant lies from Trump, but he will increase his lies as the campaign heats up.
Whatever help Trump had from the Russians in the 2016 election it was still a minuscule vote percentage compared to the total number of votes cast. Which means millions of voters were conned by Trump. Trump should have lost by tens of millions of votes. Trump's biggest help winning the election was from gerrymandering and the Electoral College. Those factors are still on the Republicans side.
The fact that Clinton got three million more votes than Trump tells me that Russian interference was not that great and did not swing, or decide the election.
Democrats need to be united to beat Trump, but having so many candidates doesn't help unity.
I only hope Americans have learned their lesson and this time Trump will lose by millions (tens of millions) of votes. After he loses the election, Pelosi can make sure he goes to jail.

Infidel753 said...

The polls right before the 2016 election were actually pretty accurate. They showed Hillary leading by about 2%, which was the actual popular-vote outcome. The possibility that razor-thin margins for Trump in three very close states could reverse the outcome in the Electoral College was something polling couldn't really have anticipated.

No one is saying that polling today predicts the actual outcome next November. Many things will happen between now and then, and we don't even know who the Democratic nominee will be yet. But they give an indication of what the public wants right now.

skudrunner said...

Polls have shown that they are not accurate but I believe trump cannot win re-election. The problem we face is there is not another candidate who can lead the country for all the people. Bernie is in another orbit but at least no one would have to do anything. The other democrats are against ambition but for give aways and Biden would be obama after 1.0 was a disaster for the middle class.

Nikki has the experience and could win if she won but it doesn't look like anyone with leadership ability will challenge trump.

Rational Nation USA said...

skudrunner, no disrespect meant but do you ever get tired of just blowing smoke and sarcasm?


. The problem we face is there is not another candidate who can lead the country for all the people.

Are you serious? Trump is leading the country for all the people? Who knew?!?

Bernie is in another orbit but at least no one would have to do anything. The other democrats are against ambition but for give aways and Biden would be obama after 1.0 was a disaster for the middle class.

Bernie may be in another orbit but regardless people would still have to do stuff. The free ride you imply just ain't gonna happen. But if you have in your possession data indicating your statement is true I would love to see it!

Again, what evidence do you have that democrats are against ambition? Truth is there are lazy republicans (Trump is one) and there are lazy democrats. Laziness is not however the norm in either party.

Biden respects President Obama, as I and millions upon millions of other folks worldwide do. However, neither you or anyone else can say Biden would be a repeat of President Obama. Biden would be his own man and plot his own agenda and course for getting there.

If the leadership you admire is Trump's arrogant authoritarian narcissism then you are quite likely right skudrunner. There is likely no current candidate fitting that description.


Shaw Kenawe said...

Apparently our friend, skud, is okay with his president breaking the law, as Trump said he would if a foreign agent gave him dirt on any of his opponents. Skudrunner can be proud that his party's president brags about committing a felonious act as that president and has no qualms about telling the American people his ambition to engage in high crimes and misdemeanors.

RN,Let's propose a little test for skudrunner here:

Skudrunner, if PRESIDENT Obama had openly bragged to an interviewer that he'd probably take opposition info (dirt) on an opponent, say, from Cuban nationals or its government, how would you react? Just brush it off and say, "Well, Hillary did it (HINT: She didn't, I invite you to educate yourself and read how the Steele Dossier is completely different from what Trump bragged he would do).

If you think the hypothetical about Obama is shocking and anti-Constitutional, why do you and your fellow GOPers accept it from Trump?


The Honorable, Esteemed And Distinguished Judge Dervish Sanders (A High IQ Bourgeois Elitist) said...

If some people think Bernie Sanders is "in another orbit" it is because they have been brainwashed into believing all socialism is the same and it is all bad. They don't realize that we already have socialism and they love it! Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, etc. Even tRump promised to strengthen these socialist programs (though he lied). In any case, even as president, Bernie Sanders is one man. He would still need to compromise with the Senate and the House. And he would be willing to. The United States would not become a Socialist nation under Bernie Sanders (because he isn't a socialist). It wouldn't even become a Democratic Socialist nation.

Although, given that MSNBC is participating in the hysteria, the "Socialist" label certainly could give Bernie Sanders trouble. Which is a shame because Bernie Sanders is the Leader America NEEDS!

skudrunner said...

Ms Shaw, your princess -H- did exactly what trump said he would do. Do we really know what -H- did because she misplaced over 30,000 emails.

Shaw Kenawe said...


skud, to what do you refer?

Rational Nation USA said...

Shaw, skudrunner deflects and changes the subject. Why? Because he knows there is nothing that actually backs up his opinions.