Paul Revere by Cyrus Dallin, North End, Boston

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Monday, September 16, 2019

They just don't get it.




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11 comments:

Fran Thompson said...


"Trump Supporters are Sick and Tired of Being Called 'Racist'"

Well, they should stop talking like racists if they're 'sick and tired.' There's a certain blog where the regulars call Muslims "Moslem vermin," (it's what the Nazis called the Jews) and wish for the world wide extermination of every "Moslem vermin" on earth. These people don't see themselves as racists, but what else do you call people who want to commit genocide on an entire group of people? Those people aren't capable of self reflection. Theyre the same ones who claimed Obama was a "secret Muslim, a Communist, and not even an American citizen. Funny. They never doubted the citizenship of a white Democrat did they?

Those people represent most of the Rethuglican Party...the party that supports a president who said an American judge couldn't rule on a case involving Trump because he was of Mexican heritage. That is the very definition of RACIST. But these snowflakes don't like it when their racism is pointed out to them. They support a guy who goes after women of color always women of color, Mexicans he called rapists and criminals, he tried to ban Muslims from coming into the country.

Racists behave like that, and yet the people who support Trump don't think he or they are racists?

Yeah. They're that stupid.

Rational Nation USA said...

Ayupp, Barry summed it up REALLY well.

skudrunner said...

Can you issue a more general statement than those people represent the R party. That is like saying free everything and you don't have to work represents the D party. Are their wackos out there, yep and on both sides. I do like it that lizzy is against the rich and connected. Guess that means she is against obama and herself.
We need a great president but Reagan is deceased and there is not another one in the wings.

Rational Nation USA said...

The Broken Record Medly verse 169, eh skudrunner?

Shaw Kenawe said...

skudrunner: "We need a great president but Reagan is deceased and there is not another one in the wings."

Really, skud? Really?

Ronald Reagan corruption
The presidency of Ronald Reagan in the United States was marked by multiple scandals, resulting in the investigation, indictment, or conviction of over 138 administration officials, the largest number for any U.S. president.


Those are facts. Do you understand facts?

The Obama administration was NOT a corrupt administration like the Reagan administration. Or do you and other Republicans ignore facts and pretend that Reagan was a great president?

He wasn't. And you long for the return of corruption and a president like Reagan?

The kind of thinking you buy into that makes Reagan a "great" president is the same kind of twisted thinking that makes you trash President Obama every time you come here.

Please do me a favor. Google the Reagan presidency versus the Obama presidency and learn which one was the most ocrrupt.

Thanks.


Shaw Kenawe said...

Here is Reagan again on immigration.


Reagan Placed High Value on Immigration

Perhaps Reagan’s greatest contribution to our political discourse today was his unflinching belief in immigration as a source of American greatness. Reagan signed comprehensive immigration reform in 1986 that granted almost 3 million people amnesty.

In his farewell address, Reagan described the United States as a shining city on a hill: “It was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity.” Reagan continued that “if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here.”

Likewise, in his “Brotherhood of Man,” speech, Reagan spoke about his desire to see a world where the people of the globe lived in harmony. Reagan insisted that the US was “the one spot on earth where we have the brotherhood of man.” The former president declared that “if we continue with this proudly, this brotherhood of man [will be] made up from people representative of every corner of the earth, maybe one day boundaries all over the earth will disappear as people cross boundaries and find out that, yes, there is a brotherhood of man in every corner.”

In the midst of the Trump presidency it is important to remember that an alternative Republican vision on immigration, trade, and general human flourishing exists. While Reagan’s policies were a mixed bag, he continues to provide timeless rhetoric that elevates the individual above the collective and preaches tolerance rather than exclusion.

What was wrong with the Reagan presidency? Well there was the ballooning debt, the legitimizing of social conservatives, and bringing the world to the brink of nuclear war – if unintentionally – in 1983.

But perhaps the worst part about the Reagan presidency is that it has been misremembered, both by the left and the right. Reagan’s true legacy has faded from view and has been replaced by a myth that Reagan was successful because he never compromised his principles. Myths can either be constructive to a society or detrimental. The Reagan myth has driven conservative policy makers to put principle over pragmatism and has led them to make the perfect the enemy of the good. Perhaps a more realistic view of the Reagan years would enable conservatives to stay true to their principles while finding innovative ways to apply them to an ever-changing world.


Dave Miller said...

Skud... Shut up!

We've tolerated you for a long time, but anyone who believes what you yourself wrote, does not deserve a place in any civilized discussions...

"I believe all of the democrat candidates about doing whatever is necessary to defeat trump. If that means brig [sic] down the country and destroying our economy they will do it..."

Really? All the Dem candidates will do whatever is necessary to bring down America to defeat Trump?

Anyone who believes that is as irrational as the extremists who call themselves the "true conservatives."

Anonymous said...

To Shaw, Dave, RN, Fran T.,

Skudrunner and other Trumpanzees have to lie to themselves about Democrats in order to justify their support of Trump. Every day we can read how Trump tramples on the constitution and acts like a toddler with a diaper full of kaka that needs to be changed. The Republicans act like Trump is a great guy, but they know how extreme and abnormal he is and how he's made America a laughing stock to the rest of the world and to patriotic Americans. Yet they continue to support him. Why? We know that if it was a Democratic president doing what Trump is doing, the Republicans would never accept it and would be calling for his impeachment. The Republicans chose party over country, Trump over their own Christian vslues. They've ruined themselves in the eyes and minds of every decent American. Skudrunner's no different from that gang of Trumpanzees.

Shaw Kenawe said...

Dave, skudrunner is a one hit wonder -- always trashing Obama. The facts do not support his claims, but like a lot of Trumpers, that doesn't stop him from repeating those claims.

Could the fact that Trump is polling in the 30s have anything to do with the usual TrumpCult blogs shutting down? If so, I can't say I'm sorry to see that happen.

Anon what's left of the GOP has debased itself and abandoned its core values. It is no longer the Republican Party; it is the Trumpublican Party, and it stinks.

Rational Nation USA said...

Some, like FrancoThinke are probably preparing for the "judgement day" and truly believe it's to their eternal benefit and salvation to support the "man" they believe was anointed by the had of god himself. They've chosen a political demagogue over truth, the constitution, the rule of law, decency, and country BECAUSE they believe it is god's will.

With a belief system and mentality like those supporting Trump how long before we enter another Dark Age? IMO those supporting Trump are not much better than those who support any flavor of tyranny over the mind. Including Islamic fundamentalists.

Dave Miller said...

Here's a great article I think Les, both you and Shaw will enjoy... a little geeky, but worth the read.

Understanding America's Cultural and Political Realignment


In case the link doesn't come through, here's the cut and paste version...

https://quillette.com/2019/09/16/understanding-americas-cultural-and-political-realignment/