Charlie Kirk, a Conservative political activist, was shot and killed today.
I didn't say the words quoted below; Charlie Kirk did, and he firmly believed them.
I don't believe seeing Charlie Kirk, a 31-year-old father of two small children, get fatally shot is worth it. And probably his young widow doesn't either.
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Sadly Shaw, no MAGA person will unilaterally condemn political violence. They will never say all political violence is wrong?
Why not? We can all guess why.
If you can, feel free to bring my other comment on this over from your previous post…
Dave Miller…
Here's the comment Dave Miller asked me to copy and paste here:
Dave Miller commented on "HMMM. COULD TRUMP BE LYING?"
35 mins ago
OT but important none the less. Charlie Kirk, with whom I frequently disagree, has been shot and died as a result of his injuries.
Right, left, conservative or liberal, anyone shooting a political rival is wrong in a free and democratic society. The shooter should be arrested, tried and if found guilty, sentenced in a court of law.
All political violence is wrong, be it vandalism, assault, shootings and more. All of it.
There should be no place in America for those who seek to divide our country using violence to promote their ideas or silence their critics. And any politician who cannot, or will not condemn all of the political violence we have seen in the United States recently does not deserve our respect, or the vote of the American people.
May God comfort the family of Charlie Kirk in this time.
Gotta be the guns fault. All of the hate of the right by the left had nothing to do with it. Yelling at anyone who disagrees with your views and attacking them in public, banning them from restaurants and referring them as nazi because they didn't like having someone who didn't believe what you believe. The inclusion party has shown their true self but after all it's the guns fault.
Dave, I will say all political violence is wrong. The issue is most political violence originates from the left so you are swatting at your own party. From magnificent maxine to tim walz who say attack anyone who differs from you. Don't forget the attacks on jews by left wing activists and antifa.
Where is all your media's outrage about the women stabbed on the bus. All you hear is crickets fro cnn, msnbc, abc, cbs, nbc.
"violence is wrong, be it vandalism, assault, shootings and more" Why are you so against federal soldiers protecting citizens. Why are you so against deporting illegals. Could it be you have been lied to.
skud, it is your biased OPINION, not backed up by any facts, that "most political violence originates from the left."
In fact, the opposite is true:
Left-Wing versus Right-Wing Extremism
Of these three ideologies, most prior research has contrasted those committed to right-wing and left-wing causes. Much of this research suggests that compared to left-wing extremists, right-wing extremists may be more likely to engage in politically motivated violence. In comparison to left-wing supporters, right-wing individuals are more often characterized by closed-mindedness and dogmatism (9) and a heightened need for order, structure, and cognitive closure (5). Because such characteristics have been found to increase in-group bias and lead to greater out-group hostility (10), violence for a cause may be more likely among proponents of right-wing ideologies. In contrast, in comparison to their right-wing counterparts, left-wing individuals score higher on openness to new experiences, cognitive complexity, and tolerance of uncertainty (5). They are also less likely to support social dominance (11), which could lead to their overall lower likelihood to use violence against adversaries."
SOURCE
And you posted a lie about Tim Walz "who say attack anyone who differs from you."
Tim Walz did not say "attack anyone who differs with you".
In fact, when condemning a politically motivated shooting in Minnesota in June 2025, he explicitly stated the opposite.
Here's what Walz actually said in that context:
"We don't settle our differences with violence or at gunpoint".
He championed civil discourse and compromise, citing recent collaboration in Minnesota's state legislature as an example.
He made it clear that all Minnesotans and Americans must "stand against all forms of political violence".
The false attribution of the phrase "attack anyone who differs with you" may be a mischaracterization or misinterpretation of other events or statements, but it does not accurately reflect Walz's recorded comments on political violence.
Your antisemitism statement is appalling. It isn't just from the Left. It's from the Right as well. It's an AMERICAN problem.
Did you conveniently forget Charlottesville and the right-wing marchers who yelled "JEWS WILL NOT REPLACE US?":
"Numerous attacks against Jews have been perpetrated by individuals and groups with right-wing, white supremacist, and far-right extremist ideologies. These attacks include deadly mass shootings, assaults, and other forms of antisemitic harassment and violence.
Examples of right-wing antisemitic attacks
Mass shootings and violence
Pittsburgh Tree of Life synagogue (2018): A gunman with white supremacist views and a history of antisemitic posts killed 11 worshippers and wounded seven others during Shabbat services.
Poway synagogue (2019): An armed white nationalist opened fire inside a synagogue near San Diego, killing one woman and injuring three others.
Halle synagogue (2019): A far-right extremist in Germany attempted to carry out a mass shooting at a synagogue on Yom Kippur. After failing to breach the synagogue's doors, he killed two people nearby."
And if the media were to comment on every homicide committed in this country by homegrown, or otherwise, criminals, we'd be hearing about killings nonstop 24/7.
Just as a note, I didn't read anything from you or the -FJ, JoeCons about Melissa Hortman and her husband by a right-wing crazy.
Your question about not wanting federal troops marching into sovereign states and cities shows me that you have no understanding of "Posse Comitatus Act:
The Posse Comitatus Act is a federal law passed in 1878 that generally prohibits the use of the U.S. Army and Air Force for domestic law enforcement purposes, restricting their use in civilian policing to "execute the laws". The Act, which comes from the Latin phrase meaning "the power of the county," reflects the principle of keeping the military separate from civilian life and was a response to concerns about military overreach during the Reconstruction era. Exceptions exist where Congress or the Constitution explicitly authorize such use, such as the Coast Guard's law enforcement duties or in cases of insurrection or natural disaster, and the Act has loopholes regarding information sharing and indirect support to civilian agencies.
Should I assume you are okay when a Republican president flouts Constitutional law? Are you just a sunshine law abider who'll be okay with a president who makes his own decisions on which laws he'll/she'll obey?
There is no national emergency in Chicago or any other blue city or state.
Trump is playing the part of an authoritarian who is extracting vengeance on the Americans who didn't vote for him. Just like a good little weak tin-pot dictator would do.
In future, when you make statements from your biased perspective, please tell us so by stating it is your opinion.
I'm getting tired of having to correct your biased opinions that you post here.
I do have a life and other things to do.
The "inclusion party?" This is the Republican president talking about his fellow Americans in 2024 while seeking the presidency for the 2nd time:
TRUMP: “We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country that lie and steal and cheat on elections,” Trump said toward the end of his speech, repeating his false claims that the 2020 election was stolen. “They’ll do anything, whether legally or illegally, to destroy America and to destroy the American Dream.”
And this is Trump as president again referring to his fellow Americans:
TRUMP: "Every Democrat in Congress voted against the ‘Big, Beautiful Bill,’ many fiercely criticizing the expected cuts it would bring to Medicaid. ‘They wouldn’t vote only because they hate Trump, but I hate them, too, you know?’ Trump said. ‘I really do. I hate them. I cannot stand them, because I really believe they hate our country.’
Talk about putting a target on every Democrat's back. He's telling his violence prone cultists that we Democrats HATE America! Imagine some unhinged, mentally disturbed right-winger listening to that and acting on it!
That's what the Republican Party did to this country!
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