It's a terrible, terrible indictment of what happens when so many who pay and pay and pay and are denied life-saving medication and coverage for treatments.
United Health Care is the worst in the industry for denying claims -- 32% !
A doctor’s letter to United Heathcare for denying nausea meds for a child on chemo
All jokes aside, my heart goes out to him and his family. I cannot imagine how much they must be going through, with him being on the run from law enforcement and all that.
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My mother has to fight with insurance EVERY MONTH to get her scans approved, she has stage 4 cancer.
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My condolences to all the people who lost their love ones that were denied coverage .
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Nah that’s a HIT😭😭 the type you see in movies I stg… the bad guy shadowing in the dark and emerging from the darkness with a silencer…. This is a movie plot😂😂
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My condolences to all the people who lost their love ones that were denied coverage , this is so devastating
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I work for an insurance company and they laid off thousands bc company was short 7million that year. The ceo got a bonus of guess how much that year? Yup 7 million.
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Yahoo News is reporting that United Healthcare, which the victim helmed, was using an AI based program to automatically deny benefits to deny and override claims to elderly patients that had been approved by their doctors.
No reason to kill a guy, but certainly troubling.
I am astounded by the comments people are making about the killing of the CEO. Americans are angry about what for-profit health care has done to them, their family members, and their life's savings. It is a scandal and I would say a crime against humanity, since so many people have suffered and even died because of what companies like UHC and others have done to people in the most vulnerable times in their lives: catastrophic illnesses and accidents.
We all agree that violence will solve nothing. And it's wrong.
But when people are pushed to their absolute limit and face preventable bankruptcies and even death because of unscrupulous insurance companies, who knows how they'll behave.
We don't know if that was the motive for the UHC CEO's killing, but I can guess from what I've been reading in the comments that if it was, many other Americans are expressing their sympathy for what drove him to do such a shocking thing.
No Shaw, we DON'T all agree that violence is wrong. Normal progressives and liberals agree and believe that, but the MAGA crowd and conservatives do not. They will never say political violence is wrong.
NEVER.
Because if they did, they'd have a Jan 6 problem.
Here's the test...
Skud, -FJ and Conservative Joe... is political violence wrong? Should it always be condemned?
You guys let us know...
Having worked at a CT senior center managing the boutique gym they operated i had dealings with United Healthcare as some members had their supplemental coverage which covered gym memberships. Those dealings did not impress me in the least and I decided then I would absolutely NEVER purchase a UH supplemental policy. They were not at that time a good company to do business with. And it sounds as they they have went downhill.
Rev, Violence is never the answer and why would the vast majority of conservatives have a Jan 6 problem.
Do you support the attack on Rand Paul by an angry mob. Do you support the harassment of Sarah Huckabee at a restaurant, do you support harassing judges outside their homes or shooting a senator at a ball game.
Do Normal progressives and liberals support the burning of cities over cops actions.
The "Normal progressives and liberals" have a horrible track record of violence against anyone who disagrees with them so you really can't pose we are saints.
If you believe the BLM riots, of which there were many, started out as a peaceful protest then why can't you accept Jan 6th did the same.
If you want "receipts" I can provide many but you should be familiar with these cases.
I did see posts about how much damage and and injuries were caused by Jan 6 but haven't seen the outrage by " Normal progressives and liberals" over the "Violence during the BLM riots. By June 22, 2020, police had made 14,000 arrests in 49 cities since the protests began, By June 8, 2020, at least 19 people had died during the protests."
Happy to oblige.
And in walks skud, confident they have the receipts. OK then, let's take a look.
Well, this is disappointing. I started to address each statement made by skud but like all Gish Gallops it would take pages to address each item because while what skud posted is a version of what happened it's not the whole story.
skud has their pearls in a clutch because that one (1) time Rand Paul was attacked by an angry mob. OK - after reading many reports of the incident at the time yes, he and his wife were confronted by protestors who justifiably had questions for the man. But attacked? That's an adjective which implies injuries. At the most he was questioned to the point where he asked for police assistance to get to his destination. Was either he or his wife harmed? Nope not at all.
The rest of their examples, breathlessly provided, proving us lefties are the violent thugs of their fevered imagination, are equally misleading. I could debunk but why? They won't engage honestly. They never do.
And there it is, skud's bamzillionth time posting where they compare the illegal Jan 6 riots to they very legal Black Lives Matter protests.
My recollection of the BLM protests are backed by stories from Forbes, Mother Jones, Media Matters, Right Wing Watch, Driftglass, Progressive Eruptions, and others. Justifiably angry about the number of innocent Black citizens gunned down or just killed by cops, the BLM protests were a legal expression of citizens of the USA's First Amendment rights. I remember watching a live feed of a candlelight service for George Floyd with kids and families in attendance. It was peaceful, spiritual, and what the community needed. Well, until the cops started to shoot tear gas into the crowd. WITH KIDS. AND FAMILIES. EXPRESSING THEIR 1ST AMENDMENT RIGHTS. After that I approved of the burning of the police station who attacked a peaceful service. They endangered kids. There is nothing more to say. And no skud, there wasn't universal approval of the violence from the left. Sheesh, you keep painting liberals and progressives with your own brush. Stop it.
In contrast, the Jan 6 riots tried to stop a lawful process as laid out in our Constitution because one candidate refused to accept the outcome of an election. It is illegal to interfere with the workings of Congress. This isn't new, hippies have known about this for decades so why doesn't skud know this fact?
#45 knew he lost. He knew he lost before Jan 6. There are records and transcripts. To really seal the deal, during the last campaign the orange mango admitted as much. So fact, the Jan 6 riots were based on a lie. If those who listened to #45 had remained on the grounds there wouldn't be nothing but they broke in because all along they had a plan to break in. And yes, it was organized as evidenced by the number of protesting pods who wore the same damn outfits and had hoodies printed for the occasion. Not a protest, an attempt to subvert the will of the American people. So why isn't skud and their cronies upset about this? Oh yeah, it's ok if you are a republican.
For the record: most of the damage done to cities during the BLM and George Floyd protests was not caused by BLM protestors but by Proud Boy and Proud Boy adjacent instigators doing their best to portray the movement in a bad light. How do I know? I read the arrest reports, something you neglected to do before posting here skud.
And you end by claiming to have receipts.
All you brought skud was more propaganda. Congrats. You could be a Russian asset. Or useful tool. Depends on if you double down.
Skud,
""Normal progressives and liberals" have a horrible track record of violence against anyone who disagrees with them."
If there was a polite way to say, "Fuck you!", I'd say it.
Like every racist and fascist you blame the anti-police brutality protest violence on liberals, meaning Black people, instead of the damn cops who murder them in the first place, what you disingenuously call "cops actions".
No, it was MURDER. But you can't blame the white cop for triggering the protests, can you? This indicates your authoritarian personality.
You have NO idea that crimes that summer were also committed by far Right Boogaloo boys or people with no political leanings at all. The arson was committed by angry Blacks sick of police harassment and thuggery. They didn't do it to promote liberal causes did they? NO!
Here's more of what you don't want to know:
Peaceful racial justice protests took place in more than 2,440 locations across all 50 states and Washington, DC.
https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2021/0708/BLM-and-Floyd-protests-were-largely-peaceful-data-confirms
BLM and Floyd protests were largely peaceful, data confirms
In CCC data collected from May 2020 to June 2021, 94% of protests involved no participant arrests, 97.9% involved no participant injuries, 98.6% involved no injuries to police, and 96.7% involved no property damage.
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https://time.com/5886348/report-peaceful-protests/
93% of Black Lives Matter Protests Have Been Peaceful, New Report Finds
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https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/demonstrations-political-violence-in-america-new-data-for-summer-2020/
Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project (ACLED)
Demonstrations and Political Violence in America: New Data for Summer 2020
Between 24 May and 22 August, ACLED records more than 10,600 demonstration events across the country. Over 10,100 of these — or nearly 95% — involve peaceful protesters. Fewer than 570 — or approximately 5% — involve demonstrators engaging in violence.
AN OVERWHELMINGLY PEACEFUL MOVEMENT
The vast majority of demonstration events associated with the BLM movement are non-violent (see map below). In more than 93% of all demonstrations connected to the movement, demonstrators have not engaged in violence or destructive activity. Peaceful protests are reported in over 2,400 distinct locations around the country.
More evidence
"About 93% of racial justice protests in the US have been peaceful, a new report finds"
Now that you've IGNORED all of this, I'll reiterate. Fuck you for your willful ignorance, hate and bigotry.
Democrats DENOUNCED the criminal behavior, but YOU can't denounce a damn thing committed by the Trump Cartel.
Trump's thugs WERE politically motivated terrorists and thugs. YOU NEVER condemned them or Trump for encouraging and tolerating violence for HOURS.
No liberal stood by watching with approval the arson and violence during the BLM protests. Trump did just that for his mob of thugs. He WANTED them to overturn the election, and commit CRIMES against the United States.
Unless you can cite any Democrat who did ANYTHING comparable, we call out your bigotry and "both sider" bullshit.
You reflexively LIE, BLAME, and falsely ACCUSE with impunity. You have no shame.
Like I stated Dube, disagree with a liberal and you get scorched. 93% were peaceful meaning 7% were violent which I guess if OK with you. Bigotry and racist accusations do not take away the truth. There is far to much violence and hate in this country. Peaceful protests did not result in 19 deaths and millions in destruction it took riots to cause that and you seem to ignore that fact.
Excellent rebuttal Dave D.
Poor skud, comfortable in his reified yet disproven beliefs, will remain searching for that which has always been available to him. Sad he has never realized this.
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