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Friday, February 16, 2018

13 RUSSIANS INDICTED BY MUELLER FOR INTERFERING IN 2016 U.S. ELECTIONS



In the past, Trump claimed the whole "Russia thing" could have been done by some American fat guy in his basement sitting on his bed. Well it wasn't.

Trump can no longer claim that the Russia investigation is FAKE! and a HOAX!

Russia interferred and helped put trump in the White House.

Trump is going off golfing again without saying anything about his refusal to acknowledge that the Russian meddled in the 2016 to get him elected. Trump has not had one meeting to address this threat that continues and will attack our country again in the 2018 elections.

Whose side is Trump on?



ABC NEWS:


"The indictment depicts an elaborate scheme in which some of the Russians accused allegedly came to the U.S. with the deliberate intention of undermining the American political and electoral process, including the 2016 presidential election. 

 In one case, for example, one American was paid to dress up as Hillary Clinton clad in a prison uniform and another person was hired to construct a cage on a flatbed truck — all part of a coordinated effort to organize rallies in Florida in the lead up to the presidential election. Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein said the Russians charged called their work "information warfare against the United States" with the goal of spreading distrust of candidates and the political system in general. 

 Some defendants "communicated with unwitting individuals associated with the Trump campaign" without revealing their association with Russia. The indictment also says the defendants posted negative information about a number of candidates during the last general election. The individuals operated social media pages and groups designed to attract American audiences with a strategic goal to "sow discord in the U.S. political system". They staged rallies and had a basic infrastructure which included computers and other support systems. 

 Ultimately, the "defendants' operations included supporting the presidential campaign on then-candidate Donald J. Trump and disparaging Hillary Clinton" his Democratic rival, according to the indictment. According to the agency, "the indictment charges all of the defendants with conspiracy to defraud the United States, three defendants with conspiracy to commit wire fraud and bank fraud, and five defendants with aggravated identity theft."

25 comments:

Rational Nation USA said...

tRump is on tRump's side and no one else. Period. End of game.

I've always tried my damndest to avoid using the word hate. But, I must now admit, after all tRump has shown us, I an a thin blonde hair away from hating the bastard.

The Reasonable One said...

Go pound sand SHAW, if they had any thing on Trump they would have announced it

Shaw Kenawe said...

RN, today Mueller indicted 13 Russians for "crimes against the United States."

Donald Trump said NOTHING about the Russians attacking our democracy! All he said was "NO COLLUSION!" And some nonsense about 2014. A real president would have gone after Russian and warned it against interferring again, warned them against committing other crimes against America.

Trump defended himself only and not the United States of America! Unbelievable!

No one would blame you or anyone for feeling hatred toward Trump -- a POTUS who had nothing to say about Russia's "crimes against the United States." I am speechless about such malfeasance and dereliction of duty He took an oath to defend America from all enemies, domestic and foreign. He did not do anything of the kind today. Your anger as a patriotic American is justified, as is mine.

The Reasonable One,

Oh give it time, Bubba, give it time! Mueller will not be trifled with. Believe me.

Trump is the biggest danger to the United states of America.

Clearwater, Florida said...

Name the Russians. Step One, and so smart.

The Trumpians will sigh a breath of relief that none of them are named. Their guard will drop, and they will crow "no collusion", in short order it will be Mueller Time for them as well. The money went deep. The tacit ignorance of the facts will haunt them, and the GOP en mass is going to feel what "Draining the Swamp" really means.

skudrunner said...

It's about time he indicted someone. Were any of the thirteen bus drivers who brought the russians here to vote. Wonder if he is going to go after the illegals and dead who voted, guess not.

R.D. said...


The IDIOT Trump can no longer say this Russia story is a "witch hunt" a "hoax" and "made-up."

Until January10 this year he called the Russia story a "hoax."

Shove it in his fat orange face. It is NOT a hoax. Crimes against America!!!!

Shove it in his fat orange lying face.

Ducky's here said...

tRump is too busy crafting his gin control platform to take notice.

Now, if Mueller can make the link between this crew of election hackers and the "adoption" meeting between the Russian operatives and Jared Kushner and Fredo tRump ... well, we can dream.

Ducky's here said...

@The Reasonable One (?) ---
Go pound sand SHAW, if they had any thing on Trump they would have announced it

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Your fan club gets more articulate as time goes on.

Wonder what The Unreasonable One has to say?

The Angry Guy said...



Russians wanted not just to support Trump they wanted to take out any other candidate who threatened Trump. They knew if they got Trump in the White House, they could control the traitor.

Trump is not cleared. The indictment does not say that and Rosenstein did not say that Trump is cleared.

Those "See You Next Tuesdays" over at that snake pit think that Trump has been exonerated. They're incredible fools.


Shaw Kenawe said...

Clearwater, never underestimate Mueller. Trump is learning this.

skud, where's your evidence that dead and illegals voted? Oh, wait. You NEVER provide evidence to back up your b.s. And that's what that is. pure b.s.

Bob Trump can never say the Russia investigation is a hoax. Trump is a lying liar and his supporters are a disgrace.

Ducky I've never experienced any adminsitration as corrupt and tratorous as Trump's.

Angry Guy my advice is to stay away from that place. They're all mentally ill. But it will be sweet to see their reaction when Trump gets his, right?

Shaw Kenawe said...


Today, #45 had to eat his lying words that the Russia investigation is a hoax, a witch hunt, and a made up excuse because the Democrats lost. All of those statements #45 has made for two years are now seen for what they are. Lies. Lies. Lies.

Lies, just like his unforgivable lies about President Obama's citizenship and how Trump was "finding amazing things" about Mr. Obama in Hawaii.

Donald Trump is a whoremonger, a liar, and now we'll wait to see if he's a taitor to his country.

We know from Mueller's indictment today that the Russians worked to make Trump president and to interfere with America's presidential elections to defeat Hillary Clinton and make him POTUS. According to the indictment, three Trump campaign officials were contacted by the Russians. We also know that Trump's son, Junior, said he'd "love" to find dirt that the Russians had on Hillary Clinton. That is a crime. Even Steve Bannon understood that.

Trump supporters can no longer pretend that their president is anything but a deceitful, lying, possible traitor to America.


Dervish Sanders said...

The Mueller investigation is now concluding with Donald Trump cleared. Now is the time for all Americans to come together and get behind our predisent, Donald Trump. As for Flynn, Gates, Manafort and Papadopoulos... all charges against these men are to be dropped due to the DOJ lying to the FISA court. Obama, Hillary, Susan Rice and Loretta Lynch will be indicted, convicted and sent to prison very soon. MAGA.

I'm not sure if any of the above is true, btw. I'm only telling you what I read on WYD.

Anonymous said...

So there was no tampering with the ballot boxes, or actual votes. Propaganda to sway the American voters thinking is what political ads are all about. As Bill Maher would say, if the American people believe that garbage, they just prove they are stupid.

It's a false cry to say Hillary got more votes. We have never elected a president by popular vote in American history and that is not what the Constitution says is a presidential win. If you want to change the Electoral College there is a process to do that described in the Constitution, but there has been no serious attempt to change the Constitution in regards to the Electoral College. .

Shaw Kenawe said...

Dervish I was wondering where all of this was going as I read your comment. Then when I read where you got it, I laughed out loud. Nothing is concluded, this was just one of many indictments that Mr. Mueller has up his sleeve. The people who believe this investigation is over are the same people who believe Donald Trump is a great president and wonderful family man. I'm laughing as I write those words. Thank you for a hearty laugh.

Here's some interesting reading from James Risen who was a reporter for the NYTimes during GWB's administration:

DONALD TRUMP A TRAITOR?

Shaw Kenawe said...


Anonymous

It is still too early to make those claims. This is just one part of many indictments to come.

I know Hillary Clinton did not win the Electoral College. What I and many other Americans want to know for sure is did Donald Trump win the Electoral College without Russian help?

This investigation is not over.

Shaw Kenawe said...


Dervish the link is fine, it works, but it should read "IS DONALD TRUMP A TRAITOR?

Here's an exerpt:

Most pundits in Washington now recoil at any suggestion that the Trump-Russia story is really about treason. They all want to say it’s about something else – what, they aren’t quite sure. They are afraid to use serious words. They are in the business of breaking down the Trump-Russia narrative into a long series of bite-sized, incremental stories in which the gravity of the overall case often gets lost. They seem to think that treason is too much of a conversation-stopper, that it interrupts the flow of cable television and Twitter. God forbid you might upset the right wing! (And the left wing, for that matter.)

But if a presidential candidate or his lieutenants secretly work with a foreign government that is a longtime adversary of the United States to manipulate and then win a presidential election, that is almost a textbook definition of treason.

Dervish Sanders said...

Re the Anonymous comment that said "So there was no tampering with the ballot boxes, or actual votes"... we don't know that. As per Charlie Pierce... "We are inching ever closer to the revelation that the actual vote totals were hacked". This line is from his 2/8/2018 article If the Russians Got into Voting Machines, I Fear for the Republic.

I certainly think it is likely. I don't know how likely. But do you think the Russians would get as far as to penetrate our systems and WOULDN'T change the vote totals in states where it was close enough that a small change would push Trump over the top?

Shaw Kenawe said...

Dervish Trump won the electoral vote by only 77,000 votes over 3 states.

Hillary won 3 million popular votes, the largest popular vote victory over an opponent in our history.

IMO, the Russians put President Dotard in the White House.

Dervish Sanders said...

Agreed. Although I'd say it was Putin and Kobach who put predisent Dotard in the White House.

Anonymous said...

Basing your unproven opinions on false facts and FAKE NEWS? Just like a Trump Republican.

Shaw Kenawe said...


Anonymous @11:36 AM,

Please look up the definition of "opinion." An opinion is not based on facts. So the first part of your comment doesn't make sense.

skudrunner said...

Shaw, I will assume by your comment you never lived in Chicago.
I don't see any evidence that proves russian citizens voted. Did they use social media to change the mind of some democrats, possible but how is that a crime. The crime should be that stupid people are allowed to vote. Someone changing their mind and vote for the donald instead of -H- shows how tarnished and weak she was. Maybe the democrats should point fingers at the DNC and Medusa. Face facts DJT didn't win, -H- lost because she was such a poor candidate, after all she couldn't beat a blow hard, orange hair non-politician.

Shaw Kenawe said...


skud, which comment did I make about Chicago? And what has that to do with Russian interference in the 2016 elections?

What seems to have escaped your understanding is that 13 Russian nationals have been indicted for committing crimes against the U.s. But you're stuck, like the proverbial broken record, on telling everyone all the time that Hillary was a lousy candidate and that's why we have President Dotard.

Here's an idea: Vary your comments when you come here so we're sure you're not a Russian from a troll farm.

You're welcome.

Anonymous said...

Dervish's whole comment and the source he cited is opinion, not fact, thus fake news. Of course you po0st that kind of fake news.

skudrunner said...

Shaw

skud, where's your evidence that dead and illegals voted?

The russians were able to "interfere" in our elections because of two weak candidates. I have never said they didn't interfere but this seems to put a different slat on trumps involvement because it is the DNC who paid them, interesting twist.