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Saturday, September 20, 2008

PALIN TOO DUMB TO DEBATE BIDEN, MC CAIN CAMPAIGN SAYS

(That's my headline, not Healy's, but my headline tells the truth.)

The debate teams have to handle the pitbull with lipstick delicately? Yes. It is apparent that she doesn't have the facts drilled deeply enough into her head to be able to hold her own with Biden. Obama, OTH, has the, um, stones to take McCain on with his supposed expertise, foreign policy and national security.

Palin has turned out to be a joke. The word is out. Her debut at the debates has to be dumbed down to meet her level of incompetence. Heh.

By PATRICK HEALY
Published: September 20, 2008
New York Times

The Obama and McCain campaigns have agreed to an unusual free-flowing format for the three televised presidential debates, which begin on Friday, but the McCain camp fought for and won a much more structured approach for the questioning at the vice-presidential debate, advisers to both campaigns said Saturday.

Mr. Obama, shown in Florida on Friday, won an agreement for the first debates to be about foreign policy and national security.

At the insistence of the McCain campaign, the Oct. 2 debate between the Republican nominee for vice president, Gov. Sarah Palin, and her Democratic rival, Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr., will have shorter question-and-answer segments than those for the presidential nominees, the advisers said. There will also be much less opportunity for free-wheeling, direct exchanges between the running mates.

McCain advisers said they had been concerned that a loose format could leave Ms. Palin, a relatively inexperienced debater, at a disadvantage and largely on the defensive.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/21/us/politics/21debate.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

9 comments:

The Griper said...

a lot of assumptions there in order to back up your accusation. leaves you wide open for a counter attack based on facts.

Shaw Kenawe said...

You're kidding yourself if you believe this woman has the education, competence or knowledge to be vice president.

She is the first vp candidate in modern times to avoid an appearance the the Sunday news shows, Meet the Press, Face the Nation, and This Week.

What possible excuse is there for that?

No one knew who the hell she was 3 weeks ago, and yet the McCain campaign keeps her away from these widely watched forums where other candidates for national office have taken questions from the moderators and answered them.

She hasn't, and apparently won't.

The only conclusion is that she can't.

So far her stint with Gibson has shown her to be able to regurgitate what information has been fed to her.

She actually, and without hesitation, told Gibson she was ready to assume the presidency should that happen during a McCain presidency.

This from a woman who just got her passport in 2007! and knows nothing about the world, it leaders or its complicated issues.

She believes in creationism, for Darwin's sake! What idiocy! Imagine a leader of the most powerful country on the planet talking to other world leaders about how dinosaurs coexisted with humans!

And she's dishonest. (Otherwise known as a liar.)

The Griper said...

he grins,
shaw, if that be the qualifications of a vp, you have just disqualified 99% of the people for that office. and if those be the qualifications of a vp then it is for sure that the people do not deserve to have a say in the running of this country as you think they do. for only qualified persons deserve that right. for how can a people select their leaders if they have no idea of what the qualifications entail? in fact it is the Constitution that defines the qualifications not you or me or anyone.

if those be the qualifications of that position that eliminates both you and me for the office and that is something i will not give up and i hope you never give up.

what qualifies you to make the determination of qualification without being qualified to? you do not have the education, competency, nor knowledge newcessary to make that determination. those are facts based on your own accusations.

as for her beliefs on creationism, that is a religious belief that she has to right to hold. and that does not disqualify her from office. in fact it would disqualify you from voting, if anything for using that claim to influence the vote of others. it shows how little knowledge you have of the Constitution. that is a Constitutional fact. and being an informed voter requires education, knowledge and comptency.

and i do not need to imagine her talking about it. i would expect her to if the subject ever came up between two leaders. just as i'd expect the other leader to tell her his viewpoint. i'd expect it of McCain, Obama, or Biden too. just as i'd expect you to present your viewpoint on the issue if the subject was ever to come up.

but the fact you are trying to make her religious beliefs an issue says more about you and your compentency to vote than it does her compentency to hold office.

as to her answer to whether or not she is ready to take over the office of the presidency, her answer, being one without hesitency, shows confidence in her own abilities.

in fact, i would question the abilities of anyone who ran for that office who would have given any other answer. and i would question the judgment of any man running for the office of the presidency if he selected a person who would give any other answer or even have to ponder that question before answering.

as for her not appearing on the tv shows, since when do you run the campaigns of either candidate so as determine their strategy? i don't know the reasons why and neither do you. all you were doing is making wild speculation. that is a fact.

to accuse otherwise is being dishonest on your part not theirs. the big difference is that i won't stoop to calling you a liar only a zealot.

libhom said...

This is typical of the "Keating Five" McCain campaign's sexist treatment of Palin. She may not be experience, but at least she isn't senile like McCain.

libhom said...

Thanks for this post. It reminded me to write on the McCain campaign's sexist treatment of Palin.

Shaw Kenawe said...

We make determinations every election cycles on who we think is qualified.

I'm sure you determine that everytime you enter a voting booth.

In my opinion and millions of other Americans, Sarah Palin's is not qualified to be vp or the potential president of the US.

She may be qualified by what is set out in the Constitution, and by those parameters, so am I. And so is my 85 year old grandmother. She's qualified by the Constitution as well.

But if I or my granny were to be chosen by any presidential candidate as a vp running mate, it would be a joke, too.

Not hesitating in answering if she thought she was qualified to be president only shows her complete lack of self-reflection and a hubristic overestimation of her abilities.

She has a right to believe in flyng saucers for all I care. But I and millions of other Americans question the intelligence of someone who believes the Earth is 6,000 years old, and teaching Creationism along side of Evolution is idiocy. It would be the same as teaching astrology along side of astrophysics.

Her avoidance in showing up on what is the normal venue for politicians to be heard and examined is screaming proof of her inadequacy.

If she is such a brainy, qualified and ready-to-be-president candidate, why on earth does she avoid what should be a breeze for her?

Why?

Because she doesn't have the knowledge to do so.

Simple.

Anonymous said...

libhom,

I'll be over to your blog to read your post as soon as it's up.

The Griper said...

"In my opinion and millions of other Americans, Sarah Palin's is not qualified to be vp or the potential president of the US."

and in the opinion of millions of others she is qualified. but that is irrelevant. we are going to the polls to declare our choice of president not the vice president.

and opinions means nothing in regards to the issue. you and millions of others may be of the opinion she is not qualified then be proven wrong.

"Not hesitating in answering if she thought she was qualified to be president only shows her complete lack of self-reflection and a hubristic overestimation of her abilities"

that needs proving. she's had a long time for self-reflection prior.

as for overestimation, that same may be said of you. how much thought have you put into it? you may very well be underestimating her and overestimating Obama's qualifications.

give me proof that Obama's decision was made only after there was self-reflection of his own abilities and isn't just an egotistical overestimation of his own abilities? if you're honest you'll admit you can't.

and if you cannot then your accusations are based solely upon ideology rather than qualifications.

Anonymous said...

I'm with the guy whose intellectual steel has been tested and who earned academic excellence through hard work and discipline.

If you want to know what Obama is made of, read the two books he wrote. Himself.

Yes. His resume is thin, but he's been tempered over the last 2 years in the greuling crucible of American politics. He managed to beat one of America's best political teams, the Clintons. Not bad for a neophyte, eh?

It takes true grit and the right stuff to do that.

Now back to Ms. Lipstick on a Pitbull.

Her entire academic career consists of a BS in journalism at Idaho State (after transferring from 4or 5 other schools--can't remember.) As far as we can determine, her education stopped there.

And yes, I am an educational snob.

How rigorous one's academic training was is not the only measure of one's intellectual ability, but it does matter.

Truman did not have a college degree. But he was a voracious reader and could hold his own on a variety of subjects.

I had a serious health issue two years ago, and you can be sure that I or anyone else would have wanted to know that those who treated me would have had the best academic background and medical training possible.

I wouldn't have wanted to be seen by anyone who wasn't tops in the field. Or who had changed schools 6 or 7 times before they got their undergraduate degree.l;

I think we need to apply the same standards to the man or woman who will lead this country.

Having intellectual skills also means that he or she will use good judgment to choose excellent people to advise him or her.

There's a term computer geeks used years ago relevant to programming a pc: Garbage in; garbage out.

Same with people.

If you put someone with a curious mind and a nimble intelligence in an environment where that can be nurtured and expanded, you more often than not get a very smart human being.

Being undereducated with power is a formula for disaster.

Every single one of our Founding Fathers (save the big cahuna, George) had excellent minds and were highly educated.