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Saturday, October 3, 2015

JEB!: "Stuff Happens"

BTW, what happened in Oregon was terrifying. Why wouldn't it be considered a "terrorist" attack? Is it only "terrorism" when a foreign Muslim or American Muslim kills other Americans? Was Dylann Roof a terrorist when he killed people in a church in Charleston?

In disturbing images posted online, Harper-Mercer, who was born in England and moved to the States at a young age, posed with guns and shared pro-IRA newspaper front pages, an investigation has found. 

 He also posted a three-minute video on the social networking site MySpace featuring IRA fighters branding guns and wearing balaclavas. 

 On his dating profile on the website Spiritual Passions, he wrote that he "doesn't like organised religion". His user name on the dating site was ironcross45 – a possible reference to the Iron Cross, a German military symbol reintroduced by the Nazis.

So was this guy a Nazi-loving, IRA sympathizing jihadist? Does it matter? Apparently to the extremist right wingers in their rush to blame massacres on Muslims it does -- except it doesn't matter when massacres are perpetrated by crazy young white non-Muslim men.  


And then there's this guy:

When asked how he would react to a gun massacre if he were president, Donald Trump said:

“You’re always going to have problems. I mean, we have millions and millions of people, we have millions of sick people all over the world — it can happen all over the world, and it does happen all over the world, and it does happen all over the world, by the way, but this is sort of unique to this country, the school shootings. And you’re going to have difficulty no matter what… You’re going to have these things happen and it’s a horrible thing to behold, horrible… It’s not politically correct to say, but you’re going to have difficulty and that will be for the next million years, there’s going to be difficulty, and people are going to slip through the cracks." 

 After a bit more mush-mouthing he said:

 “What are you going to do, institutionalize everybody?… That’s the way the world works, and that’s the way the world always has worked.” 

 So, do nothing? That’s Trump’s plan. Just accept our worldwide leadership in gun massacres. We are, afterall, NUMBER ONE!


Dave Miller said...

Shaw, the right had no plan, no strategy, nothing to propose sacs solution to this. Even if the solution if the left does not work 100%, at least it is a proposal.

What proposal in response, can conservatives point to?

Shaw Kenawe said...

"What proposal in response, can conservatives point to?"

Well one guy, who wants to be the president of the USA, thinks "stuff happens" is a useful response.

And the people on the right think Mr. Obama's impassioned response, where he promised he would continue to remind Americans of the need to change the gun laws -- those people think that's an inappropriate response for a president. I saw how quickly they turned on you when you got a little too close for their comfort to the truth of the matter: They don't care if living, breathing young men and women, grammar school babies, etc., are slaughtered, so long as they can blame Muslims and President Obama when these tragedies happen. They're not interested in solutions, and when you point out their raging hypocrisy, they turned like hyenas on you.

Rational Nation USA said...

I don't think your characterization is all that helpful Shaw. I am certainly to the right of you and therefore would be conservative by comparison. Yet I do not fit your stereotypical description of conservatives with respect to this issue. Certainly I am not alone as there are many others similarly placed politically. But I will acknowledge that the internet seems to attract the extremes. On both sides of the political spectrum.

Shaw Kenawe said...

RN, I qualify my statements by saying "extremist right winger[s]" or extreme right wing. You are not an extremist. So I'm not sure which "characterization" you mean.

Who are the extreme left wingers who comment here? Except for one or two that I let through, would you say Dave Miller is extreme? Jerry Critter? Infidel753? Surfer Dude? Titan You're Famous? Free Twinkies? I'm Skippy's Mom? I'm just curious.

Infidel753 said...

You can sort of see why the red-meat wingnuts prefer Trump. When he says something grossly offensive, at least it's intentional (most of the time). Jeb is just floundering pitifully like some brainless primordial ungulate sinking into a tar pit. He makes Romney look like a political virtuoso.

Was Dylann Roof a terrorist when he killed people in a church in Charleston?

Allowing for the murkiness of the definition of terrorism, I would actually say yes in that case. He specifically targeted people of a particular group (racial, in this case) in the hope of intimidating the entire group. If the same action had happened in the Middle East and had been carried out by a Muslim targeting Christians or Jews (the equivalent majority/minority situation there), we wouldn't hesitate to call it a terrorist attack. For that matter, the Roseburg killer seems to have targeted people based on religion -- he seems more like the kind of alienated, hate-centered type who might have glommed onto almost any cause or prejudice as a pretext for violence, but I suspect that's true of a lot of actual terrorists as well, including Muslim ones.

but this is sort of unique to this country, the school shootings.

I guess Trump hasn't heard of Beslan, Peshawar, or Dunblane. Can't say I'm surprised.

Radical Pig's Liver said...

Man, it's just getting weirder by the minute!

Sheriff in charge of the Oregon School shooting thinks the Sandy Hook massacre was a hoax

Hilarius Man of Iron said...

Saw a blog writer get all upset and called him/her/itself a Lib Buster -- that will solve all our problems. Right. What's wrong with people. Why not try to solve the gun massacres instead of beating up on each other?

Hilarius Man of Iron said...

This country has a problem, what with these Hypicricatal Maroons that they can not see what is happening in this country and in squeaky Nations like Iran. Nation! What is wrong with you!?

Anonymous said...

Hilarius Man of Iron, that's hilarious!