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Wednesday, December 19, 2018

"What is going to put him [Trump] in jail, eventually..."

From Nancy LeTourneau of Washington Monthly

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"What is going to put him in jail eventually... destroy anything he's ever built, and his children, is a 30 year dishonest criminal enterprise. One thing will take him out of the presidency, the other will ruin him forever..."- @DonnyDeutsch w/ @NicolleDWallace

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"Deutsch makes a powerful point about Trump being the bottom of the food chain when it comes to real estate developers. But it was his comments about what would motivate prosecutors that I found startling.

'The political incentive for every U.S. Attorney in New York or Virginia to do this…this guy showed up and tried to undo what 250 years of people have been dying for in this country—who we are, what we stand for. So there is a moral imperative, rule of law, what our grandfathers died for—democracy—he single-handedly is the first guy in our lifetime to try to undo that. He’s going to pay for that for the rest of his life as they pick apart his criminal enterprise. This is the very, very beginning of the story.' "


skudrunner said...

Do you really believe the country will put a president, past or present, in jail. That won't and shouldn't happen. There have been several presidents who have committed illegal acts and none of them have ended up in prison. Would they have in today's hate filled America, I still doubt it. They lived in a different time with no social media and a press who was not as biased against someone.

Kevin Robbins said...

Do you really believe the country will put a president, past or present, in jail. That won't and shouldn't happen.

Yes, we can just overlook it and let the rule of law degrade to the point where it means nothing. But don't worry the poor and brown will still feel the full impact of it.

Shaw Kenawe said...

So, skud, we can put you down as one of those Americans, like Orrin Hatch, who don't care if Trump broke the law?

You do understand, don't you skud, that's how dictators, kings, and tyrants get to rule countries.

You apparently will continue to look the other way as evidence after evidence after evidence piles about about how corrupt Trump and his family are.

I do know this: YOU and the Mother Ship passengers and others of that ilk would NEVER, NEVER dismiss this kind of raging corruption, saying all presidents break the law, if Barack Obama were the president. All of us know this as a truth and are disgusted with the people who choose to look the other way as a man as dishonest, mendacious, craven, and venal as Trump plunders our nation's treasure.

Kevin Robbins said...

Skud, in case Christian belief is important to you I'll pass along a Biblical definition of justice (Merriam Webster's most looked up word of the year).

The virtue which consists in giving to every one what is his due; practical conformity to the laws and to principles of rectitude in the dealings of men with each other; honesty; integrity in commerce or mutual intercourse. Justice is distributive or commutative. Distributive justice belongs to magistrates or rulers, and consists in distributing to every man that right or equity which the laws and the principles of equity require; or in deciding controversies according to the laws and to principles of equity. Commutative justice consists in fair dealing in trade and mutual intercourse between man and man.


Ray Cranston said...

Hey Skudrunner, what do you have to say about tRump who swore over and over again while running for president and after he was election that he had nothing to do with the Russians, no one in his administrationl had anything to do with the Russians and he never did any business with the Russians.

And now we've found out that he was negotiating with the Russians - Putin even, to build a Trump Tower in Moscow and signed a letter of intent while he was the nominee for the GOP president! tRump's been caught in another huge lie. What makes you or any of your tRump suck-up believe in anything he says? He lied a out paying off his whores and he lied about doing business or at least trying to do business in Moscow while he was running for US president.

Are you gonna tell Shaw that Obama said you can keep your doctor on Obamacare as a example of an Obama lie?

Do you people who still support tRump have no conscience or loyalty to America? It doesn't look like you people do.

skudrunner said...

I didn't say he shouldn't be tried and if found guilty should go to jail I just said he won't. The ramifications of jailing a president are to far reaching. Congress won't allow that to happen because that means they can be jailed as well for their crooked dealings, think of frank and dodd.
He would have to be proven guilty of participating in something illegal and that just won't happen. Didn't happen with nixon, clinton and won't happen with trump. The lefts desire to bring down trump and the nation at any cost, especially to the middle class, will not result in jail time for him.
I don't think he will run again "for personal reasons" but he will not retire in jail.

Shaw Kenawe said...

skud: "He would have to be proven guilty of participating in something illegal and that just won't happen."

You don't know that.

skud: "Didn't happen with nixon, clinton and won't happen with trump."

Nixon was told by his own Republican legislators who came to him and told him he would be impeached and found guilty. Nixon chose to resign instead of going through that humiliation.

Clinton was impeached and found not guilty by the Senate.

Trump's dirty deals exceed what Nixon and Clinton did. They may even include conspiring with a foreign country to win the presidency. We already know he's breaking the law vis-a-vis the Emoluments Clause in the Constitution -- so there's that, and he's already been exposed as a dirty crook by accepting money for his fake foundation and using it as a slush fund. And we know from Michael Cohen's indictment that Trump directed Cohen to pay his two mistresses off and silence them just before the election, which was a material value, since it was hidden from the American people and it helped his candidacy to hide that sordid information from the public.

Trump is a far bigger crook than Nixon and Clinton ever dreamed of being.

Gawd only knows what Mueller knows about his dirty dealings, and Judge Emmet Sullivan probably knows about them as well, since he was disgusted at Michael Flynn, probably because of what he read about what he did.

skudrunner: "The lefts desire to bring down trump and the nation at any cost,"

No. Sorry, skud. You haven't been paying attention, obviously, to anything but Fox and news sites like that. Many, many Republicans as well as Democrats, Independents, Libertarians, etc., want to see Trump gone from the presidency. Patriots don't like to see the man who's supposed to be lead this country instead show himself to be an unrepentent liar, cheat, fraud, and schemer with foreign countries.

You are wrong to say only the Democrats want Trump out of office. All Americans who care for what our country is supposed to stand for want his prodigious arse kicked good and hard out of the White House. He's no good.

What good did you and your fellow Trump excusers think would come from a man who is a serial adulterer, a man who regulary cheated people out of their money with fraudulent schemes, who refused to pay workers their due wages, who stole from his own charitable foundation, who lies constantly about his ties with Russia, and who takes no responsibility for his many failures?

Just today we learned that his military advisors were not consulted when he made the announcement via Twitter that he's pulling out of Syria. PUtin congratulated Trump on that!

Nothing good can ever come from someone as dishonest, degenerate, and deplorable as Trump.


Why you continue to defend the indefensible is an all-time mystery to me.

Rational Nation USA said...

tRump and his cult followers, including and especially Evangelicals, have worked very hard at the desensitization of America. Truth, morality, and doing the right thing have been under attract since the day tRump announced his bit for the presidency. Replaced by wholesale acceptance of graft and immorality by a far too large segment of our country.

Sad but true nonetheless.